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Post by billytc on Jul 5, 2014 17:09:40 GMT -5
I'm a regular reader from the Agoracom days, but a first time poster. Also a long-time holder of MNKD. Interesting event occurred this past Tuesday in the medical office I manage: a nurse patient (the practice has nothing to do with diabetes) came in saying he was considering taking a job with Lilly as a sales trainer for a new diabetes product that Lilly would begin distributing. The nurse patient knows nothing of my interest in MNKD. I pressed for details whereupon the patient revealed that Lilly was apparently hiring nurses across the country to train its sales people in a new product. The patient showed me the email from Lilly. So... why would Lilly need to train its existing diabetes sales force? Also, Lilly has no new diabetes product in the US that I'm aware of (they do in Europe but that won't be available here for quite some time) so what is coming? The nurse patient is currently a home health nurse whose patient base is comprised overwhelmingly of diabetics. Hmmmmmmm...
It may be nothing, but I hard time believing this is mere coincidence.
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Post by jpg on Jul 5, 2014 18:01:31 GMT -5
So hope it is not Lilly... Only a buyout of Afrezza for a lot of $ would be good maybe but as far as the rest Lilly has, in my opinion, an exceptional knack for not doing things very well from a scientific perspective. MNKD management also seems to be rightfully disinclined from partnering with anyone with a significant conflict in the prandial insulin space.
JPG
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Post by mannmade on Jul 5, 2014 18:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by mrhaigs on Jul 5, 2014 19:42:02 GMT -5
I'm a regular reader from the Agoracom days, but a first time poster. Also a long-time holder of MNKD. Interesting event occurred this past Tuesday in the medical office I manage: a nurse patient (the practice has nothing to do with diabetes) came in saying he was considering taking a job with Lilly as a sales trainer for a new diabetes product that Lilly would begin distributing. The nurse patient knows nothing of my interest in MNKD. I pressed for details whereupon the patient revealed that Lilly was apparently hiring nurses across the country to train its sales people in a new product. The patient showed me the email from Lilly. So... why would Lilly need to train its existing diabetes sales force? Also, Lilly has no new diabetes product in the US that I'm aware of (they do in Europe but that won't be available here for quite some time) so what is coming? The nurse patient is currently a home health nurse whose patient base is comprised overwhelmingly of diabetics. Hmmmmmmm... It may be nothing, but I hard time believing this is mere coincidence. I'm calling shenanigans on this. |
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Post by liane on Jul 5, 2014 19:54:04 GMT -5
mrhaigs,
Why are you jumping to conclusions? The OP seems to just be posting some benign speculation.
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Post by thekindaguyiyam on Jul 5, 2014 20:12:15 GMT -5
This is the second version of this story I have heard. The first one was about a sales rep who apologizes to her Doctor Customer saying she will no longer be representing her line to him any long because she has been assigned to a new "superior" diabetes medicine which she is not allow to talk about.
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Post by coco on Jul 5, 2014 20:29:39 GMT -5
Interesting!  |
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Post by thekindaguyiyam on Jul 5, 2014 21:06:44 GMT -5
Interesting! and what the courts would call "Hear Say". Stories like this are believable when the story is announced. Given this second parallel story makes me more skeptical of both. Alfred and Management are tight so too would be anyone trusted with a very limited bit of inside information. True or not, my fortune cookie said that I would be a very lucky man within the next 2 months. I'm banking on that! best to you |
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Post by clos22 on Jul 5, 2014 21:40:47 GMT -5
Haven't posted for a couple of months but figured I should post this link...I am BOTOX Medical Consultant and received several emails last week from Lilly. They are hiring 50 new reps for their diabetes division. I will try to call some of my Lilly friends on Monday and see if I hear anything interesting. I worked for them several years ago and sold Byetta and Humalog. We'd like to share some exciting news at Eli Lilly! Eli Lilly is currently expanding their Diabetes sales force and is looking to hire 50 additional sales Representatives across the country Eli Lilly is the 10th largest pharmaceutical company in the world, and has been creating medicines that help improve peoples' quality of life for more than 135 years. Across the globe, we are a leader in investing in research and development and we also invest in our employees - in competitive salaries, training and development, and health. If you are interested in being considered for employment at Lilly, we encourage you to click the link below CLICK HERE TO APPLY Or copy/paste the following URL into your browser: xjobs.brassring.com/TGWebHost/jobdetails.aspx?partnerid=25428&siteid=5645&AReq=11192BR&Codes=inVentiv,Careerbuilder You will be asked to take a Pre-Employment assessment that could take up to 45 minutes. Please do so ASAP! If you don't receive a link to complete the assessment, please email the link below ASAP! Candidate Help desk Link: EliLillyCandidateSupport@kenexa.com Please forward this message to any friends or colleagues you believe to be qualified. You must apply online for these positions to be considered. Please note that due to the volume of responses, only those most closely matching the qualifications will be contacted. NOTICE: If you would like to be removed from our mailing list, please forward this email to OptOut@inVentivHealth.com Lilly is an EEO/Affirmative Action Employer, and does not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, protected veteran status, disability or any other legally protected status. A notice describing Federal EEO laws can be viewed here: Poster and Supplement. |
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Post by lynn on Jul 5, 2014 23:05:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure where I read it but as someone else posted , what I did read referred to a previous partnership the company made & it did not bode well , if anyone else saw this also I'd love to reread , I recall it stating why Eli Lilly would be a horrible choice for Mannkind & it seemed to give valid reasons why , if it was actually factual , I tried to locate it but I read it sometime last week & don't even recall where I saw it ..
& the other mention I think someone was referring to was a supposed cardiologist on Yahoo who claimed his GSK Pharma rep stopped in to tell him she was leaving to go work in the Diabetes sector & when prompted all she said was the company couldn't tell her the drug she'd be representing bc it had yet to be FDA approved .
He seemed decent on yahoo but I always wonder why are they there & not here instead ... Its my work weekend so my holiday fun is over ./
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Post by babaoriley on Jul 5, 2014 23:08:13 GMT -5
The job description should add, "unlike a certain former President, you must be willing to inhale."
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Post by rak5555 on Jul 6, 2014 8:39:00 GMT -5
Lynn, I'm pretty sure the bad partnership you are referring to was Amylin for their diabetes drug byetta. |
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Post by mannmade on Jul 6, 2014 9:06:58 GMT -5
Btw, I can vouch for Billy TC he is the real deal and not one to spread rumors for rumors sake... Whether Lilly is involvers with Mannkind and/or would make a good partner is for others to know or decide but as for his story if he says its true then take it to the bank...
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Post by mnkd2014 on Jul 6, 2014 9:28:11 GMT -5
For what it is worth, Eli Lilly has the 2nd best selling rapid-acting insulin drug, Humalog, with $2.6B annual sales. However, Humalog lost patent protection in 2013. It will not be too surprising Lilly is looking for a new rapid-acting insulin drug to replace its losing revenue at Humalog.
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Post by mattm on Jul 6, 2014 12:50:19 GMT -5
It may well turn out that Lilly is a partner or one of several.
However, how close must you be in finalizing a deal if you are hiring staff for the product?
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