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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 13:57:53 GMT -5
A manipulated stock with a massive short position, a non communicative management team that could (or is it couldn't) care less and a marketing partner that I don't trust. So what else is new.
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Post by BlueCat on Sept 24, 2014 15:04:53 GMT -5
Hi -
Took a quick scan through your posts. If I interpret correctly, you seem on the bearish side.
You are certainly free as with all of us to contribute to healthy debate and conversation. But above, I'm not reading an invitation to do either?
For venting, one liners, sport and entertainment - highly recommend ST. I use it frequently for that purpose. And along with YMB, its more or less open 24x7.
I'm not a moderator or control point here, just another member who appreciates some civilized discourse.
As for SNY, I think Mann has been in the business long enough to ascertain their intentions. I'm sure he could have accepted a check for more if it was a BP company intending to simply shelf the product to protect existing product lines and profits.
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Post by jpg on Sept 24, 2014 19:03:49 GMT -5
Hi Avogadro,
My one liner:
An innovative company which doesn't need to 'pump' with a technological breakthrough drug delivery platform/ product that just got FDA approvalim a massively undersea Ed market and a good partnership with a leading BP.
As of now it is all question of perspective obviously and time will tell who was right. I am obviously betting I am right and you seem to be betting that most of us hear are wrong. Time will soon tell.
JPG
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Post by lyric14882 on Sept 24, 2014 23:23:29 GMT -5
The part of this message board that (for me) is the hardest is that any of us who have been bullish through all of the MANY hard parts have the nerve to say the first thing negative then we are banished to yahoo message boards. The only "healthy debate" that can be posted on this board is of the positive side. If any of us says anything negative then we are bears in disguise. That is getting frankly insulting.
The shareholders have gone through ADCOM, waiting for FDA Approval, getting FDA Approval, waiting on partnership, getting partnership and our shareprice is a whopping 6 and change a share.
Did spiro actually get sent to siberia? Where is the guy who blogged the adcom (maltese?).
Why do the people who have stuck through this stock thick and thin (mostly thin) get bashed if we say we are not happy with the PPS? We are ever so slightly above May of 2013.
Honestly, I made better today out of some ramdon IPO that I do not the first thing about than I have from mannkind. Not to mention PBYI and ICPT.
I am not a stock guru. I did my DD on mannkind and am ever so slightly ahead.
We have FDA approval and partnership since then. But yet unless we are the constant cheerlearders of this stock that has gone significantly down since FDA approval we are bears in disguise.
Honestly, is there no one else on this board that is not ever so slightly disappointed that we trade at barely over 6.00 a share? I seem to recall posts of those who were hoping we would be at the minimum in the teens at this point.
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Post by gamblerjag on Sept 24, 2014 23:31:19 GMT -5
sure it's disappointing not being in the teens... but personally I always had a longer time frame of 25 bucks or in 2015... don't care if it goes there gradually or in a spike.
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Post by lyric14882 on Sept 24, 2014 23:43:41 GMT -5
25 bucks in 2015?
It is 6.28 in late September of 2014 and you honestly think it will go to 25 in 2015?
I am not a bear in disguise...but that is unrealistic.
For whatever reason MNKD is the red headed step child of wall street.
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Post by BlueCat on Sept 24, 2014 23:57:56 GMT -5
I think the point is that it shouldn't be about simply griping or cheerleading. IMHO It should be about discussion or advancing the discussion or sharing information. What seems to differentiate this board is that one might say, "I'm not trusting SNY as the marketing partner because of X, Y, Z" - with some sort of facts, links, observations or what. And then people can agree or not based on the merits, etc of the debate. Otherwise, why post? Bearish, bullish, or a long feeling bearish, or a practical short thinking bullish, or a short fully bearish, overcome with MNKD glee - whatever. I think we're all guilty of expressing our feelings either directly or implicitly rather than just our opinions on these various forums. Almost impossible not to. Humans, not robots here. But the hope is that here we can (this community of members) work together to keep the conversation in a constructive, educational direction  |
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Post by lyric14882 on Sept 25, 2014 0:56:07 GMT -5
Perhaps you Q2U won't be so quick to judge those gone weary of mannkind. I am protective of this stock. I have been its greatest fan.
You, Q2U, jumped on someone who was trying to understand why this stock who has an FDA approval, partnership, no catalyst coming, etc and yet the stock drops everyday;.. was not saying this is the BEST STOCK EVER.
If we are on this board, Q2U, we are not all bears in disguise. Don't put us all in that group.
With the SEC filing, the so-called quiet period surely has to be over.
I hope the management shows its shareholders some love tomorrow.
Wall Street, for whatever reason, hates mannkind. I hope we can all agree on that.
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Post by jpg on Sept 25, 2014 4:34:10 GMT -5
Hi Lyric, It may seem as if Wall Street hates MNKD but most of Wall Street (and main street) has never heard of Mannkind. That will hopefully soon change. There are also many many less polite sites then this one. Can we agree on that? There are more shorts not wanting to admit to being shorts then longs not wanting to admit being long. Can we agree on that also? There are a lot of frustrated longs out there who have lost the thin layer of patients they once had or maybe never had? There is another Board hosted by the same hosting company as this site that loves bashing A. Mann. They say they are long but seem to have zero trust in management. As I once pointed out to the head basher; why are you invested in a company that you have zero faith in? I suspect there is a direct corralation between entry price and satisfaction. Those that bought most of their shares near the 2$ mark are probably less upset then those who bought at 10$. They have the same facts and outcome (except for the purchase price obciously). Basically loosing money is frustrating regardless of anything else... You seem in a big hurry. If we patient (and frustrated) longs are right the weighing machine will eventually stop being a voting machine and all longs will be happy or at least happier. www.goodreads.com/quotes/831517-in-the-short-run-the-market-is-a-voting-machineCould we hit 26 or 36$ in a year? Absolutely. Could we still be at 6$ (or less) in a year? Absolutely. I'd rather the former but will stick around till the later happens even if it isn't in a year or two. JPG www.goodreads.com/quotes/831517-in-the-short-run-the-market-is-a-voting-machine |
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Post by liane on Sept 25, 2014 5:29:53 GMT -5
I think the point is that it shouldn't be about simply griping or cheerleading. IMHO It should be about discussion or advancing the discussion or sharing information. What seems to differentiate this board is that one might say, "I'm not trusting SNY as the marketing partner because of X, Y, Z" - with some sort of facts, links, observations or what. And then people can agree or not based on the merits, etc of the debate. Otherwise, why post? Bearish, bullish, or a long feeling bearish, or a practical short thinking bullish, or a short fully bearish, overcome with MNKD glee - whatever. I think we're all guilty of expressing our feelings either directly or implicitly rather than just our opinions on these various forums. Almost impossible not to. Humans, not robots here. But the hope is that here we can (this community of members) work together to keep the conversation in a constructive, educational direction Q2U, I could not have said it better!! I was reviewing the overnight posts, and in particular, those of lyric14882. We (the moderators) absolutely do not suppress the negative comments, but we do want to see some reasoning or opinion behind any given post. So repeated baseless bashing, or pumping, or even whining will get moderated. Name-calling and accusations will get moderated. Nobody here wants to hear it. We tend to moderate with a light hand; so yes, things do slip through. Our intent though is to nip threads that are turning into baseless free-for-alls. If there are any questions, please refer to the Rules of the Board (link is at top of the Home Page). So everyone - post good info, keep it civil, and have fun! |
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Post by BD on Sept 25, 2014 9:08:04 GMT -5
The part of this message board that (for me) is the hardest is that any of us who have been bullish through all of the MANY hard parts have the nerve to say the first thing negative then we are banished to yahoo message boards. lyric, I wonder what examples of this "banishment to YMB" you are thinking of. Personally, if I see a member post to suggest something like that, or just get personal with someone posting negatively, I'll moderate them...there are members here who can attest to being thus moderated. And let's see how many members have literally been banned for being bearish...oh yeah, zero (I'm not counting known trolls). I have a concern that when statements such as yours above are seen here, some members might get the impression we're trigger-fingered with the banning here... and nothing could be further from the truth. Again, anyone posting to suggest someone is "short" for posting a negative opinion gets serious scrutiny by the staff. Each situation is different; sometimes a public response is warranted, sometimes only a PM. And sometimes, no action at all, because the general membership has chimed in to bring balance to a situation. The fact is, we just don't know who's long or short or a combination thereof. And it doesn't really matter...actually, it shouldn't matter, at least not w/r/t the discussions. Privately, we may have suspicions, it's just that there's little or no productive value in labeling someone "a short"...and most members here understand this. If I were to say "It doesn't bother me a bit", or perhaps "I'm in severe distress, overwhelmed with anger, fear and frustration", how does that truly support the community? It is what it is, and we do the best we can with whatever we have and whatever we're able to glean from the collective experience of everyone on the board. And we try out best to be respectful, even if we may be feeling pummeled. |
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