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Post by kc on Nov 25, 2015 15:05:03 GMT -5
Agree, it's been war against Mannkind for some time. Who are the enemies that wants total destruction? Big Pharma, me thinks! Somebody understands what's at stake since they have made this a battleground stock. There has to be a bright future or why would they show much attention. I have never become as emotionally attached to one stock as I have this particular one. I have investments in over 35 different stocks but this particular one has become my second largest position cost wise. Like my wife. I am in this stock for better or worse until it's over.
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Post by kball on Nov 25, 2015 15:07:22 GMT -5
Like an ex-wife. Already lost half
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Post by jeremg on Nov 25, 2015 15:08:18 GMT -5
irrationalexubera, thanks for the explanation and info, I may need to take another look at the options after reading your post. I was one of the "don't lend shares" crowd which I regret now having had nothing but a very sizable paper loss come out of my long position of over a year now, wish I had more actively traded this stock...
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Post by bradleysbest on Nov 25, 2015 15:24:26 GMT -5
Bring the wife. Twice the money , half the fun !
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Post by sportsrancho on Nov 25, 2015 15:25:21 GMT -5
I love options. Just saying:-) You risk less to make more and don't tie up so many shares. But I stick to leaps, real close to in the money. I've tried shorter term and lost money. I sell them after I've had them over a year. And then depending on the stock roll them over into the next year. Selling calls would be the smarted thing to do with MNKD but I don't want to limit my up side. Hope runs eternal:-))
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Nov 25, 2015 15:55:34 GMT -5
Agree, it's been war against Mannkind for some time. Who are the enemies that wants total destruction? Big Pharma, me thinks! Somebody understands what's at stake since they have made this a battleground stock. There has to be a bright future or why would they show much attention. I have never become as emotionally attached to one stock as I have this particular one. I have investments in over 35 different stocks but this particular one has become my second largest position cost wise. Like my wife. I am in this stock for better or worse until it's over. I think the shorts are simply in it to make money. They may be the better informed ones with more of an insight into how long before barriers begin to be removed and thus knew they would have free rein to play this for X period of time... and they have played it well. Pharma competitors are undoubtedly doing what they can to make Afrezza fail, but making MNKD fail as a company would not kill Afrezza. SNY has the rights to take it over in the case of bankruptcy. The shorts may benefit from the efforts by pharma to suppress Afrezza, but I don't see where Novo or Lilly would benefit from having MNKD share price stink.
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Nov 25, 2015 15:58:26 GMT -5
I love options. Just saying:-) You risk less to make more and don't tie up so many shares. But I stick to leaps, real close to in the money. I've tried shorter term and lost money. I sell them after I've had them over a year. And then depending on the stock roll them over into the next year. Selling calls would be the smarted thing to do with MNKD but I don't want to limit my up side. Hope runs eternal:-)) My hope is hobbling along like a invalid... or three legged dog.
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Post by jeremg on Nov 25, 2015 15:58:56 GMT -5
Somebody understands what's at stake since they have made this a battleground stock. There has to be a bright future or why would they show much attention. I have never become as emotionally attached to one stock as I have this particular one. I have investments in over 35 different stocks but this particular one has become my second largest position cost wise. Like my wife. I am in this stock for better or worse until it's over. I think the shorts are simply in it to make money. They may be the better informed ones with more of an insight into how long before barriers begin to be removed and thus knew they would have free rein to play this for X period of time... and they have played it well. Pharma competitors are undoubtedly doing what they can to make Afrezza fail, but making MNKD fail as a company would not kill Afrezza. SNY has the rights to take it over in the case of bankruptcy. The shorts may benefit from the efforts by pharma to suppress Afrezza, but I don't see where Novo or Lilly would benefit from having MNKD share price stink. Like a fox guarding a hen house. This worries me.
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Post by doodyfree on Nov 25, 2015 16:11:35 GMT -5
I think the shorts are simply in it to make money. They may be the better informed ones with more of an insight into how long before barriers begin to be removed and thus knew they would have free rein to play this for X period of time... and they have played it well. Pharma competitors are undoubtedly doing what they can to make Afrezza fail, but making MNKD fail as a company would not kill Afrezza. SNY has the rights to take it over in the case of bankruptcy. The shorts may benefit from the efforts by pharma to suppress Afrezza, but I don't see where Novo or Lilly would benefit from having MNKD share price stink. Like a fox guarding a hen house. This worries me. I'm real tired of the conspiracy theories. SNY is not actively sandbagging nor are they trying to BK MNKD for afrezza. There are no meetings in France planning MNKD demise for Afrezza, this is all FUD. They may suck hardcore as a partner, but they are not spending their waking hours trying to BK MNKD for afrezza.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 16:19:37 GMT -5
I totally agree with you Doody. I'm sick and tired of all the FUD spreaders going after MNKD/Afrezza. Just really tired of it. I'm holding/adding whenever I can, don't care what the Fudsters say anymore, and my patience will be rewarded. It's as simple as that. Happy Thanksgiving to all!
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Post by jeremg on Nov 25, 2015 16:20:37 GMT -5
doodyfree "Your theory is as much a guess as mine, they are not facts either." - I'm glad you are presenting your "belief" as fact and informing us all as to what SNY is and isn't doing. Now tell me what is supported by current events and the reality of the state we are currently in: that SNY is acting in good faith as a dutiful partner OR that they are slow-rolling [sand-bagging] Afrezza which would lead to the exact result we are currently seeing. I'm not accusing you of being idealistic, now I am confirming beyond a shadow of a doubt that you in fact are being idealistic.
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Post by longstocking on Nov 25, 2015 16:36:55 GMT -5
In response to Sportsrancho's comments on call options: I agree. I hold my long term position of stock and won't sell it, lend it, or risk the potential profit by selling calls. I do add LEAPS during the dips which are near, at, or in the money, as a "layaway" plan for future purchases. For example, during the TASE listing and flash crash from a couple weeks ago, the Jan 2017 $1.50's were selling for around .75/ea, ($2.25/share future total purchase price). I bought enough in my Roth IRA so that I essentially already invested both my 2016 and 2017 contributions at today's stock prices. Of course, I could also just sell the options before executing them if I end up not qualifying to make IRA contributions due to my new found MNKD wealth! Very committed long, signing off for the Thanksgiving Holiday! LongStocking
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Post by doodyfree on Nov 25, 2015 16:38:51 GMT -5
doodyfree "Your theory is as much a guess as mine, they are not facts either." - I'm glad you are presenting your "belief" as fact and informing us all as to what SNY is and isn't doing. Now tell me what is supported by current events and the reality of the state we are currently in: that SNY is acting in good faith as a dutiful partner OR that they are slow-rolling [sand-bagging] Afrezza which would lead to the exact result we are currently seeing. I'm not accusing you of being idealistic, now I am confirming beyond a shadow of a doubt that you in fact are being idealistic. You don't seriously believe SNY's business model is to actively sandbag partners, BK, to take over. How sustainable is that? They don't even have a competing solution, don't get started on Aprida. Stop making this personal. We're talking about SNY.
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Post by longstocking on Nov 25, 2015 16:40:15 GMT -5
I love options. Just saying:-) You risk less to make more and don't tie up so many shares. But I stick to leaps, real close to in the money. I've tried shorter term and lost money. I sell them after I've had them over a year. And then depending on the stock roll them over into the next year. Selling calls would be the smarted thing to do with MNKD but I don't want to limit my up side. Hope runs eternal:-)) My hope is hobbling along like a invalid... or three legged dog. I know a great golden lab three legged dog. He's very happy. Although we don't know his name, we call him "Lucky". I think he'd agree. Good luck to us all.
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Post by jurystillout on Nov 25, 2015 16:42:14 GMT -5
Seems like misery likes company has never been so true as we've seen here lately, however you can be sure this roller coaster ride is not over yet. If Al can keep MNKD on the tracks the victory will be all the sweeter and you'll look back at this as one of the funnest stocks you've ever been involved with, (I'm predicting he does)!
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