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Post by username on May 20, 2017 3:18:34 GMT -5
I heard a similar story for a board source. Aegis must be a boiler shop racket as the don't ever return phone calls. I have called the names on the 8 cards I received and never got called back. I would stay away from the Aegis Capital corp scammers. But even scammers, in fact especially scammers, need to talk to their victims in order to get their shares. I don't understand why they don't bother to call back. |
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Post by sportsrancho on May 20, 2017 5:22:19 GMT -5
I heard a similar story for a board source. Aegis must be a boiler shop racket as the don't ever return phone calls. I have called the names on the 8 cards I received and never got called back. I would stay away from the Aegis Capital corp scammers. But even scammers, in fact especially scammers, need to talk to their victims in order to get their shares. I don't understand why they don't bother to call back. I'll bet they had no idea who they were going to be talking to! At this point...what are they going to say? |
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Post by boca1girl on May 20, 2017 6:36:59 GMT -5
My husband only has a few hundred shares, post reverse split, so I was surprised he got a yellow card yesterday. I thought they may have been sent to only those who had a high number of shares. His yellow card had the same contact as mine (Brian). I still haven't received a call back after 3 days. So MNKD thought Aegis would act as an extension for Investor Relations?
Why would MNKD hire a high paid "people manager" and leave Investor Relations, and Public Relations/Communications understaffed (or non-existantant)?
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Post by mnholdem on May 20, 2017 7:20:13 GMT -5
Aegis wrote that they are not being compensated by MannKind in cash or stocks to provide this service. They were apparently provided with names, addresses and phone numbers of shareholders by management. That is their compensation, along with the fees they'll charge that may be associated with setting up shareholders with Aegis accounts. They may have left that part out of their sales pitch to management.
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Post by Cowgirl on May 20, 2017 7:38:50 GMT -5
No...if mannkind was not providing them cash or stock for their services then mannkind knew what Aegis was looking for out of the deal. There is no reason for a company to do ANYTHING for mannkind unless they receive SOMETHING for doing so.
So, now it appears Matt is implying he didn't know Aegis would be calling mannkind shareholders and attempting to get them to switch their investment accounts etc. Wrong! This is EXACTLY what Aegis told mannkind they'd be doing for providing FREE service to mannkind.
What mannkind could claim is that they didn't realize Aegis would be high pressure/somewhat falsely misleading mannkind shareholders but if Matt or a secretary simply Googled Aegis Capital they would have know this and seen multiple stories of fines,penalties and impropriety for this company. So like just one more slap in the face of amazing ineptitude and clear cluelessness in their "deal" with Sanofi, and then hiring contract sales force and blaming insurance co's. and the shorts...and don't forget the conf call plea for any potential interested parties...mannkind hands out our names and addresses for Aegis to try to screw us over.
This is yet just another example of a guy leading a company who is out to touch and not even in the same league when it comes to financing, wall street, biotech co's, raising capital etc.
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Post by me on May 20, 2017 10:04:11 GMT -5
No...if mannkind was not providing them cash or stock for their services then mannkind knew what Aegis was looking for out of the deal. There is no reason for a company to do ANYTHING for mannkind unless they receive SOMETHING for doing so. So, now it appears Matt is implying he didn't know Aegis would be calling mannkind shareholders and attempting to get them to switch their investment accounts etc. Wrong! This is EXACTLY what Aegis told mannkind they'd be doing for providing FREE service to mannkind. What mannkind could claim is that they didn't realize Aegis would be high pressure/somewhat falsely misleading mannkind shareholders but if Matt or a secretary simply Googled Aegis Capital they would have know this and seen multiple stories of fines,penalties and impropriety for this company. So like just one more slap in the face of amazing ineptitude and clear cluelessness in their "deal" with Sanofi, and then hiring contract sales force and blaming insurance co's. and the shorts...and don't forget the conf call plea for any potential interested parties... mannkind hands out our names and addresses for Aegis to try to screw us over. This is yet just another example of a guy leading a company who is out to touch and not even in the same league when it comes to financing, wall street, biotech co's, raising capital etc. I think @reverselo has addressed a few times the issue of actions taken against firms in the financial industry. More importantly, what on God's green earth are you thinking when you talk about MNKD handing out shareholder names and addresses??? Do you honestly think that someone from Aegis trotted out to MNKD and was handed a list??? I really would truly appreciate your thoughts on this. While I don't know your equity position or lack of position in MNKD, I'm definitely a bit concerned about your welfare based upon some of your comments here. I for one would be willing to listen. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 10:27:49 GMT -5
I hear this thug isn't happy with the boards assessment, and called someone we all love on the board, yelling, screaming, threatening. Brian Rockowitz | Managing Director
510 Broadhollow Road, Suite 104 | Melville, NY 11747
(Toll Free: 1-877-866-4815 ext. 351 | (Local: 516-221-6600 ext. 351 | (Fax: 516-221-6820
www.AegisCap.com
Brockowitz@AegisCap.com
I say he has bothered the wrong human being. I do not know what your scam is.
The head quarters is very close to my house. They wanted me to go down there and speak with them. You should have. You can tell a lot from a face to face. |
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Post by ssiegel on May 20, 2017 10:29:38 GMT -5
No...if mannkind was not providing them cash or stock for their services then mannkind knew what Aegis was looking for out of the deal. There is no reason for a company to do ANYTHING for mannkind unless they receive SOMETHING for doing so. So, now it appears Matt is implying he didn't know Aegis would be calling mannkind shareholders and attempting to get them to switch their investment accounts etc. Wrong! This is EXACTLY what Aegis told mannkind they'd be doing for providing FREE service to mannkind. What mannkind could claim is that they didn't realize Aegis would be high pressure/somewhat falsely misleading mannkind shareholders but if Matt or a secretary simply Googled Aegis Capital they would have know this and seen multiple stories of fines,penalties and impropriety for this company. So like just one more slap in the face of amazing ineptitude and clear cluelessness in their "deal" with Sanofi, and then hiring contract sales force and blaming insurance co's. and the shorts...and don't forget the conf call plea for any potential interested parties... mannkind hands out our names and addresses for Aegis to try to screw us over. This is yet just another example of a guy leading a company who is out to touch and not even in the same league when it comes to financing, wall street, biotech co's, raising capital etc. I think @reverselo has addressed a few times the issue of actions taken against firms in the financial industry. More importantly, what on God's green earth are you thinking when you talk about MNKD handing out shareholder names and addresses??? Do you honestly think that someone from Aegis trotted out to MNKD and was handed a list??? I really would truly appreciate your thoughts on this. While I don't know your equity position or lack of position in MNKD, I'm definitely a bit concerned about your welfare based upon some of your comments here. I for one would be willing to listen. I'm sort of inclined to think Mannkind called Aegis to discuss possibilities for future financing. Aegis perhaps said something along the lines of, "give us the names of shareholders and we'll contact them to assess their attitudes and gauge the chance for a future rights offering or secondary." Aegis included a pitch to open an account with them, management services, etc, to obscure the true objective while possibly gaining some new clients. That's more the sort of thing I expect from Wall Street. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 10:33:52 GMT -5
No...if mannkind was not providing them cash or stock for their services then mannkind knew what Aegis was looking for out of the deal. There is no reason for a company to do ANYTHING for mannkind unless they receive SOMETHING for doing so. So, now it appears Matt is implying he didn't know Aegis would be calling mannkind shareholders and attempting to get them to switch their investment accounts etc. Wrong! This is EXACTLY what Aegis told mannkind they'd be doing for providing FREE service to mannkind. What mannkind could claim is that they didn't realize Aegis would be high pressure/somewhat falsely misleading mannkind shareholders but if Matt or a secretary simply Googled Aegis Capital they would have know this and seen multiple stories of fines,penalties and impropriety for this company. So like just one more slap in the face of amazing ineptitude and clear cluelessness in their "deal" with Sanofi, and then hiring contract sales force and blaming insurance co's. and the shorts...and don't forget the conf call plea for any potential interested parties...mannkind hands out our names and addresses for Aegis to try to screw us over. This is yet just another example of a guy leading a company who is out to touch and not even in the same league when it comes to financing, wall street, biotech co's, raising capital etc. Leon Cooperman's hedge fund was just fined 5 million by the sec for insider trading. He was also given the "not able to deny or confirm guilt" which tells us he was guilty. At the time of the insider trading, his hedge fund was worth 6 billion dollars. Think about that, a fine of 5 million when you are watching over 6 billion dollars. I think you need to realize is the Matt is the CFO of a failing biotech and was forced into CEO because there was no one else. While you may think he is being compensated a lot of money it's really nothing compared to other ceo's. I am not a fan of Matt but you pay for what you get. You can't have caviar taste with a tuna fish wallet. |
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Post by nylefty on May 20, 2017 11:01:20 GMT -5
I just received my three yellow cards this morning. Wonder if I got them so late in the game because of my relatively paltry holdings or because my last name begins with a letter that is low on the alphabet list. In any event all three cards are now with the rest of the junk mail in the recycling bin.
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Post by boytroy88 on May 20, 2017 11:07:22 GMT -5
I just received my three yellow cards this morning. Wonder if I got them so late in the game because of my relatively paltry holdings or because my last name begins with a letter that is low on the alphabet list. In any event all three cards are now with the rest of the junk mail in the recycling bin. Yep...just got mine too...to be fair...I use a PO Box and only pick up mail once a week so it could have gotten to me at the beginning of the week. None the less it's now filed in their rightful place...  |
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Post by peppy on May 20, 2017 11:07:31 GMT -5
No...if mannkind was not providing them cash or stock for their services then mannkind knew what Aegis was looking for out of the deal. There is no reason for a company to do ANYTHING for mannkind unless they receive SOMETHING for doing so. So, now it appears Matt is implying he didn't know Aegis would be calling mannkind shareholders and attempting to get them to switch their investment accounts etc. Wrong! This is EXACTLY what Aegis told mannkind they'd be doing for providing FREE service to mannkind. What mannkind could claim is that they didn't realize Aegis would be high pressure/somewhat falsely misleading mannkind shareholders but if Matt or a secretary simply Googled Aegis Capital they would have know this and seen multiple stories of fines,penalties and impropriety for this company. So like just one more slap in the face of amazing ineptitude and clear cluelessness in their "deal" with Sanofi, and then hiring contract sales force and blaming insurance co's. and the shorts...and don't forget the conf call plea for any potential interested parties...mannkind hands out our names and addresses for Aegis to try to screw us over. This is yet just another example of a guy leading a company who is out to touch and not even in the same league when it comes to financing, wall street, biotech co's, raising capital etc. Leon Cooperman's hedge fund was just fined 5 million by the sec for insider trading. He was also given the "not able to deny or confirm guilt" which tells us he was guilty. At the time of the insider trading, his hedge fund was worth 6 billion dollars. Think about that, a fine of 5 million when you are watching over 6 billion dollars. I think you need to realize is the Matt is the CFO of a failing biotech and was forced into CEO because there was no one else. While you may think he is being compensated a lot of money it's really nothing compared to other ceo's. I am not a fan of Matt but you pay for what you get. You can't have caviar taste with a tuna fish wallet. Aegis a scam. Not sure what I think of team cowgirl/reverso
In other news: www.premera.com/amazon/medical-plans/
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Post by mnholdem on May 20, 2017 11:24:57 GMT -5
ssiegel,
If MannKind didn't hand Aegis the shareholders names, how did they get our names and phone numbers? I'm not being argumentative. I'm just wondering if there are other ways they could have got this information. Phone calls are being made to shareholders, regardless of which brokerage they have. Are shareholder lists public information? Is there a source where these lists may be purchased?
One email that was posted which was allegedly from MannKind's IR department stated that MannKind paid the postage, but it seems to me that the names had to have been handed to Aegis for them to assign an Aegis sales rep to each shareholder.
What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 11:54:42 GMT -5
Leon Cooperman's hedge fund was just fined 5 million by the sec for insider trading. He was also given the "not able to deny or confirm guilt" which tells us he was guilty. At the time of the insider trading, his hedge fund was worth 6 billion dollars. Think about that, a fine of 5 million when you are watching over 6 billion dollars. I think you need to realize is the Matt is the CFO of a failing biotech and was forced into CEO because there was no one else. While you may think he is being compensated a lot of money it's really nothing compared to other ceo's. I am not a fan of Matt but you pay for what you get. You can't have caviar taste with a tuna fish wallet. Aegis a scam. Not sure what I think of team cowgirl/reverso
In other news: www.premera.com/amazon/medical-plans/
Peppy I usually try to ignore most of your comments.I just have no idea what you are saying half the time. I have no idea who cowgirl is or how we are a team? The fact remains the same and that is most financial firms get fined. The post you just quoted is a fund that is much much larger then Aegis and they were currently hit for insider trading. If anything is a scam is your deciphering of daily volume  |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 11:59:08 GMT -5
ssiegel, If MannKind didn't hand Aegis the shareholders names, how did they get our names and phone numbers? I'm not being argumentative. I'm just wondering if there are other ways they could have got this information. Phone calls are being made to shareholders, regardless of which brokerage they have. Are shareholder lists public information? Is there a source where these lists may be purchased? One email that was posted which was allegedly from MannKind's IR department stated that MannKind paid the postage, but it seems to me that the names had to have been handed to Aegis for them to assign an Aegis sales rep to each shareholder. What do you think? Mnholdem- They cannot make cold calls to shareholders because most are on the do not call list. They are not going to risk getting fined and this is why they mailed out the postcards. I have mass/junk mailed for my business in the past and there is so much data out there to try pinpoint your mailings. I am sure there are many companies out there that can supply the data to Aegis. |
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