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Post by kball on Jan 16, 2018 16:23:56 GMT -5
Was long 10/14-5/16. Lost too much. Never shorted a stock in my life.
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Post by nylefty on Jan 16, 2018 16:29:50 GMT -5
Curious, why the shorts come to longs’ forum? It's in their financial interest to spread FUD with the hope of bankrupting the company or at least driving the stock price down.
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Jan 16, 2018 16:52:59 GMT -5
Curious, why the shorts come to longs’ forum? It's in their financial interest to spread FUD with the hope of bankrupting the company or at least driving the stock price down. Not that there is any evidence of someone short having posted in this thread, but I also find it curious that you think it would be in their financial interest to post here. That presupposes that posts here have influence over share price. I hardly think they do. Shorts have much better things to do with their time I'm sure, such as buying new yachts and such with their MNKD earnings. As for the share price, the deep pockets that control Wall Street aren't coming here to determine their trading positions on MNKD.
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Post by Omega on Jan 16, 2018 17:14:45 GMT -5
It's in their financial interest to spread FUD with the hope of bankrupting the company or at least driving the stock price down. Not that there is any evidence of someone short having posted in this thread, but I also find it curious that you think it would be in their financial interest to post here. That presupposes that posts here have influence over share price. I hardly think they do. Shorts have much better things to do with their time I'm sure, such as buying new yachts and such with their MNKD earnings. As for the share price, the deep pockets that control Wall Street aren't coming here to determine their trading positions on MNKD. Could use the same argument to say shorts don't post on Yahoo Msgboard or Twitter or Stocktwits. Do you think those places are different from pro boards or do you think shorts are absent from all these places as well?
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Jan 16, 2018 17:29:07 GMT -5
Not that there is any evidence of someone short having posted in this thread, but I also find it curious that you think it would be in their financial interest to post here. That presupposes that posts here have influence over share price. I hardly think they do. Shorts have much better things to do with their time I'm sure, such as buying new yachts and such with their MNKD earnings. As for the share price, the deep pockets that control Wall Street aren't coming here to determine their trading positions on MNKD. Could use the same argument to say shorts don't post on Yahoo Msgboard or Twitter or Stocktwits. Do you think those places are different then pro boards or do you think shorts are absent from all these places as well? The person apparently being accused on this thread is someone that has been a long time contributor and everything he's posted seems to be pretty consistent and transparent... that's he's not a short. I too have often been accused of being short, even though my posts here have also been consistent and transparent... even posting specifically when I've added to my long position. Of course I've been accused of being short and attacked for loaning out my long shares at the same time, so it gets crazy here with the paranoia. I obviously cannot prove there are no shorts here, but usually when I see people accusing others of it here I know it to not be true. And I've never seen a single person doing the accusing here able to give even a shred of evidence for the attacks they are inventing. I think it very bad form to make up accusations, but I guess in this day and age, honesty and truth are becoming discarded old fashioned values. I think it would be much more civil to avoid making up accusations to attack other members and to stick to commenting about the content of posts. If someone has posted something that is inaccurate or false, simply point that out. Posts of opinion/emotion whether wildly positive "I love MNKD" or negative "MNKD sucks" really don't even need any comment. Many people that have been long MNKD have negative feelings about the company, and if the reason why that might be isn't obvious... well, it should be obvious. Don't participate/follow Yahoo or Stocktwits so can't comment on those venues.
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Post by kball on Jan 16, 2018 17:36:50 GMT -5
Not that there is any evidence of someone short having posted in this thread, but I also find it curious that you think it would be in their financial interest to post here. That presupposes that posts here have influence over share price. I hardly think they do. Shorts have much better things to do with their time I'm sure, such as buying new yachts and such with their MNKD earnings. As for the share price, the deep pockets that control Wall Street aren't coming here to determine their trading positions on MNKD. Could use the same argument to say shorts don't post on Yahoo Msgboard or Twitter or Stocktwits. Do you think those places are different from pro boards or do you think shorts are absent from all these places as well?I felt there may have been shorts on this board and probably still are. But i think its pretty fair to say way more longs here that have suffered losses (many in 6 figures) and left or still holding trying to use options and trading strategies to minimize damage. And may have a bitter streak and negative tone. I've personally met an awesome pro board member as its a good group of folks generally. And was looking forward to meeting more at a vegas celebration once upon a time that never happened as company went through tough time after tough time and we all lost a lot during it.
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Post by nylefty on Jan 16, 2018 17:41:34 GMT -5
I don't think it's in the financial interest of shorts to post FUD, but many of them do think that -- especially those who post on StockTwits and Yahoo.
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Post by sportsrancho on Jan 16, 2018 18:27:03 GMT -5
Could use the same argument to say shorts don't post on Yahoo Msgboard or Twitter or Stocktwits. Do you think those places are different from pro boards or do you think shorts are absent from all these places as well?I felt there may have been shorts on this board and probably still are. But i think its pretty fair to say way more longs here that have suffered losses (many in 6 figures) and left or still holding trying to use options and trading strategies to minimize damage. And may have a bitter streak and negative tone. I've personally met an awesome pro board member as its a good group of folks generally. And was looking forward to meeting more at a vegas celebration once upon a time that never happened as company went through tough time after tough time and we all lost a lot during it. It’ll still happen, and you’re invited:-) $20 a share... Vegas!
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Post by kball on Jan 16, 2018 18:59:40 GMT -5
^ There! (Be the guy walking around drunk)
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Post by kball on Jan 16, 2018 19:00:19 GMT -5
^ One of them anyway
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Post by brotherm1 on Jan 16, 2018 19:23:44 GMT -5
I don't think it's in the financial interest of shorts to post FUD, but many of them do think that -- especially those who post on StockTwits and Yahoo. It helps to keep potential new buyers from buying and helps to fleece stock out of weak hands.
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Post by sportsrancho on Jan 16, 2018 19:30:00 GMT -5
I don't think it's in the financial interest of shorts to post FUD, but many of them do think that -- especially those who post on StockTwits and Yahoo. It helps to keep potential new buyers from buying. That’s exactly right! I use ST for all my other stocks to get quick information, to see when earnings were announced. Upgrades or downgrades. Then I look at my chart app. And I maybe make a quick decision to buy or sell. Who in their right mind clicking on MNKD ST would touch the stock with a 10 foot pole! It’s a jungle.
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Post by centralcoastinvestor on Jan 16, 2018 19:45:24 GMT -5
It helps to keep potential new buyers from buying. That’s exactly right! I use ST for all my other stocks to get quick information, to see when earnings were announced. Upgrades or downgrades. Then I look at my chart app. And I maybe make a quick decision to buy or sell. Who in their right mind clicking on MNKD ST would touch the stock with a 10 foot pole! It’s a jungle. It is my belief that the short position in this stock has employed a very effective psychological warfare campaign against this stock. It is multi-level. It uses bash articles in a variety of forums. There are consistent postings that belittle people that own the stock long. They attack people who are successfully using Afrezza. They attack on Twitter, in Stock Twits, on Facebook and even in the comment sections in Web MD. It is brilliant really. The shorts control the price of the stock even on good news days. They mock long term shareholders so that eventually it seems there is just a dark cloud over everything related to MannKind. Because of how effective the negative campaign has been, it has been very difficult to raise funding in the market. Aaaand because it has been difficult to raise funding, they use that to continue beating down any positive news. With enough capital, I can see how a focused short group could kill a company.
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Post by mytakeonit on Jan 16, 2018 19:56:32 GMT -5
sports said ... "Who in their right mind clicking on MNKD ST would touch the stock with a 10 foot pole!"
Hey! I resemble that remark!
And back at you ... didn't you say that the kids were done eating in 10 minutes ... and you were still in your cocktail hour mode?
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Post by centralcoastinvestor on Jan 16, 2018 19:58:21 GMT -5
That’s exactly right! I use ST for all my other stocks to get quick information, to see when earnings were announced. Upgrades or downgrades. Then I look at my chart app. And I maybe make a quick decision to buy or sell. Who in their right mind clicking on MNKD ST would touch the stock with a 10 foot pole! It’s a jungle. It is my belief that the short position in this stock has employed a very effective psychological warfare campaign against this stock. It is multi-level. It uses bash articles in a variety of forums. There are consistent postings that belittle people that own the stock long. They attack people who are successfully using Afrezza. They attack on Twitter, in Stock Twits, on Facebook and even in the comment sections in Web MD. It is brilliant really. The shorts control the price of the stock even on good news days. They mock long term shareholders so that eventually it seems there is just a dark cloud over everything related to MannKind. Because of how effective the negative campaign has been, it has been very difficult to raise funding in the market. Aaaand because it has been difficult to raise funding, they use that to continue beating down any positive news. With enough capital, I can see how a focused short group could kill a company. Sorry, now I’m all worked up. What is so sad, is that Afrezza really works. It could help millions (perhaps tens of millions) of diabetics stay within range. No more lost feet, damaged organs and eye sight. That just doesn’t matter to the short side. Kill the company and move on to the next victim. Don’t get me started on how the insurance system is rigged against any improved methods. Grrrrrrrrr
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