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Post by brotherm1 on Feb 19, 2020 11:50:25 GMT -5
That’s some sound logic there Mango. 🧐🥱
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Post by mango on Feb 19, 2020 11:53:48 GMT -5
That’s some sound logic there Mango. 🧐🥱 Can't be any worse than the stuff ya'll try to spin, that's for sure. 👍 But, my true disdain for Bill's character stems from the fact that he has been using sports as a messenger for his defaming campaign of Michael Castagna, and also how he makes excuses to not show any proof to back up his accusations and claims (and hopes people are naive and gullible enough to go along), throw in his constant attacks, etc...It is more than enough of a character portrait for me to understand the kind the person Bill McCullough is. |
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Post by sweedee79 on Feb 19, 2020 12:01:37 GMT -5
Ok.. so we have to do searches now to dig up dirt on Bill?
Can't believe this.. I don't know if I will even get the chance to vote my 26K shares since I never hear anything from Mnkd about those shares or voting..
I've made my position clear.. But it isn't just because of what Vdex has said.. it is from my own personal experience with docs .. Afrezza and insurance.. I knew early on what the problems were.. and Vdex is right about retention.. docs refusing to prescribe.. etc.. and not once has Mike been honest about it. Instead he throws money at something even when he knows it isn't going to work.. I don't need Vdex to tell me this.. I can see it with my own eyes..
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Post by mango on Feb 19, 2020 12:07:57 GMT -5
Ok.. so we have to do searches now to dig up dirt on Bill? Can't believe this.. I don't know if I will even get the chance to vote my 26K shares since I never hear anything from Mnkd about those shares or voting.. I've made my position clear.. But it isn't just because of what Vdex has said.. it is from my own personal experience with docs .. Afrezza and insurance.. I knew early on what the problems were.. and Vdex is right about retention.. docs refusing to prescribe.. etc.. and not once has Mike been honest about it. Instead he throws money at something even when he knows it isn't going to work.. I don't need Vdex to tell me this.. I can see it with my own eyes.. Bill has attacked MC more times than I care to count, and has embarked on a defaming campaign, spreading potentially harmful information with no proof to support it. Seems to me some here look the other way when one side does something, but then gets upset when the other side decides to play along. That's called hypocrisy. |
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Post by nylefty on Feb 19, 2020 12:31:58 GMT -5
There are more than 300 William McCulloughs on LinkedIn and many more who are not listed there. Why should we assume that the one who has a beef with Chrysler is VDex's William McCullough?  |
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Post by longliner on Feb 19, 2020 12:31:58 GMT -5
If VDex doesn't have the patient base to support their business without Mannkind subsidizing them, what does Bill have to lose by attacking MC? You could turn that around. If Mike doesn't have the patient base to support their business what does he have to lose by attacking VDEX? This is just throwing random insults really. It doesn't address the problems raised by the emails. Oh, I must have missed the videos MC released attacking Bill. I saw all of the videos Bill released attacking MC. I'm still waiting for the one of substance that indicates his patient base. |
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 19, 2020 13:03:03 GMT -5
You could turn that around. If Mike doesn't have the patient base to support their business what does he have to lose by attacking VDEX? This is just throwing random insults really. It doesn't address the problems raised by the emails. Oh, I must have missed the videos MC released attacking Bill. I saw all of the videos Bill released attacking MC. I'm still waiting for the one of substance that indicates his patient base. MC does it by snide emails, Bill does it by Youtube videos. It's all the same. I predict that if VDEX released their patient numbers tomorrow the immediate response would be that VDEX made the numbers up, or that it's all forgeries. How about MC releases the Afrezza patient breakdowns so we can judge if if his plans are working? No? And the reason why in both cases is exactly the same, that information is company confidential which is why Symphony has a business. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Feb 19, 2020 13:13:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Chrysler products either.  He showed his lack of DD by buying a Chrysler in the first place! Second, he showed absolute desperation to make significantly more money than he suffered and was owed by rejecting Chrysler's offer and instead trying to sue. Ridiculous and not the character traits that represent a good BoD. Guess what.... that was not Bill. Some other person with the same name. 😂🤣😆🤦🏼♀️ |
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Post by longliner on Feb 19, 2020 13:27:42 GMT -5
Oh, I must have missed the videos MC released attacking Bill. I saw all of the videos Bill released attacking MC. I'm still waiting for the one of substance that indicates his patient base. MC does it by snide emails, Bill does it by Youtube videos. It's all the same. I predict that if VDEX released their patient numbers tomorrow the immediate response would be that VDEX made the numbers up, or that it's all forgeries. How about MC releases the Afrezza patient breakdowns so we can judge if if his plans are working? No? And the reason why in both cases is exactly the same, that information is company confidential which is why Symphony has a business. I predict you will (as always) have many predictions from the sideline. Just no vote.🙂 Any chance you could link one of those so called "snide" e-mails? |
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Post by mango on Feb 19, 2020 13:30:41 GMT -5
He showed his lack of DD by buying a Chrysler in the first place! Second, he showed absolute desperation to make significantly more money than he suffered and was owed by rejecting Chrysler's offer and instead trying to sue. Ridiculous and not the character traits that represent a good BoD. Guess what.... that was not Bill. Some other person with the same name. 😂🤣😆🤦🏼♀️ I assumed it wasn't but that was the point. Was just doing what some here have been doing—making claims without fact checking and showing evidence. |
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Post by mango on Feb 19, 2020 13:36:50 GMT -5
You could turn that around. If Mike doesn't have the patient base to support their business what does he have to lose by attacking VDEX? This is just throwing random insults really. It doesn't address the problems raised by the emails. Oh, I must have missed the videos MC released attacking Bill. I saw all of the videos Bill released attacking MC. I'm still waiting for the one of substance that indicates his patient base. Mike has not done anything to portend he would start a defaming campaign and implant potentially harmful information that was untrue or otherwise misleading, especially without evidentiary proof supporting such unsubstantiated accusations. Nonetheless, Bill has used YouTube, emails and message boards to attack Michael Castagna, CEO MannKind Corp, and has attempted to make unsubstantiated accusations and claims against Michael Castagna. Unfortunately, the forecast indicates that the attacks will continue, and evidentiary proof will remain to be seen. |
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Post by sweedee79 on Feb 19, 2020 14:02:45 GMT -5
This is a publicly traded company . Bill met with lead council and I'm guessing all "proof" has been presented to BOD.. We as shareholders aren't privy to all of the facts..
Yesterday Steve from Vdex was responding to questions asked by some SHs.. Its up to each SH what they choose to believe or not.. But I doubt that Vdex would put themselves in a position where they can be sued.. by making false allegations with no proof..
Instead Mnkd is now working with Vdex on foreign deals. We are all SHs.. We all want what is best for the company.. If none of this is true then Mike has nothing to worry about.. and it will all blow over..
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Post by mnholdem on Feb 19, 2020 14:24:27 GMT -5
Frankly, mango, I am not familiar with how you would provide any evidence that is more substantial than a first-hand witness, unless it's several witnesses, such as those parties that were allegedly negotiating a deal with the CEO. Do you need notarized affidavits to be secured and published before considering the validity of the events that were reported? If so, then well done! If fact, if I were on the Board of Directors and claims were made against an Officer, I would ask for precisely that! However, here's the rub. I suspect that McCulloch does have substantial and tangible evidence which support these claims of alleged misconduct by the CEO. He'd be a complete moron to publicize these events without it. If it were me, I would be certain to have all my affidavits, documents and all other essentials in hand which would be needed to both support my case and to defend myself against retaliation if needed. However, I certainly would NOT divulge my evidence to anyone except to the Board of Directors. The last thing I would permit is to allow my witnesses to become subject to threats or intimidation. --- I think that the evidence provided to stockholders, thus far, has come largely from the first-hand accounts of the one witness who agreed that it should be publicized, in spite of his allegedly already having been threatened himself. To your point, I would ask the Board to substantiate these claims at its earliest opportunity.  |
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Post by brotherm1 on Feb 19, 2020 14:30:58 GMT -5
This is a publicly traded company . Bill met with lead council and I'm guessing all "proof" has been presented to BOD.. We as shareholders aren't privy to all of the facts.. Yesterday Steve from Vdex was responding to questions asked by some SHs.. Its up to each SH what they choose to believe or not.. But I doubt that Vdex would put themselves in a position where they can be sued.. by making false allegations with no proof.. Instead Mnkd is now working with Vdex on foreign deals. We are all SHs.. We all want what is best for the company.. If none of this is true then Mike has nothing to worry about.. and it will all blow over.. Sweedee, I must have missed this. Was there an open invitation from Steve for questions yesterday? via email? |
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Post by sweedee79 on Feb 19, 2020 14:38:50 GMT -5
I'm going by what Sports has posted.. She talks to the Vdex people privately.
She would probably be the better person to ask.. but I believe that she said some SH were wondering if Vdex and Mnkd were really working together. So Vdex responded to how that came about.
Only thing I care about is the truth when it comes to all of this.. Certainly I don't want misinformation being spread about anyone..
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