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Post by sportsrancho on Feb 21, 2020 15:04:41 GMT -5
I'm sure MNKD did ... but with low revenues ... MNKD and I felt that we couldn't afford her. But, that's mytakeonit Like I said before, why fight trying to sell Afrezza to Endo’s when you can hire them yourself. |
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Post by u1682002 on Feb 21, 2020 15:57:59 GMT -5
I'm sure MNKD did ... but with low revenues ... MNKD and I felt that we couldn't afford her. But, that's mytakeonit Like I said before, why fight trying to sell Afrezza to Endo’s when you can hire them yourself. Sports, please hire Afrezzauser as your assistant. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Feb 21, 2020 16:05:00 GMT -5
An important event that just occurred is that LeAnne now gets to see what's behind the curtain at VDex meaning number of scripts, real growth rate, the order of importance of existing challenges, etc. I have no clue as to what she'll find but am very excited for her. While confidentiality requirements will prevent her from sharing some information, it's reassuring that she, who I consider to be one of us, will soon be able to even better evaluate the future for Afrezza. The old popular adage was, "I'll sell when Al sells". The new philosophy might be, "I'll sell when LeAnne sells"  ...and buying applies also. :-) Thank you, obviously since I’ve been in close contact with them I was in the position to know they were going to need more people. I wouldn’t have been advocating them to my fellow shareholders if that had not been the case. It’s all good😎 To be honest some people were very skeptical, even though I assured them that the Vdex guys are straight shooters. I was not led astray as some suggested:-) I can’t wait to be able to report on the things I know are coming! Cheers🥂 |
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Post by morfu on Feb 21, 2020 17:01:12 GMT -5
Well, sorry to rain on this parade and I am happy if LeAnne or anybody gets a good job! And yes she is a very nice person and helped diabetis patients and Afrezza a lot over many years! But wasn't VDex the company trying unsuccessfuly to blackmail Mannkind into some preferred status and their contribution to this company welldoing is almost neglectible so far? So I might even call them evil! LeAnne also repeatedly advocated short term goals as an investment strategy regarding Mannkind if I remember correctly (apologies if I got that wrong)
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Post by sportsrancho on Feb 21, 2020 17:21:15 GMT -5
Well, sorry to rain on this parade and I am happy if LeAnne or anybody gets a good job! And yes she is a very nice person and helped diabetis patients and Afrezza a lot over many years! But wasn't VDex the company trying unsuccessfuly to blackmail Mannkind into some preferred status and their contribution to this company welldoing is almost neglectible so far? So I might even call them evil! LeAnne also repeatedly advocated short term goals as an investment strategy regarding Mannkind if I remember correctly (apologies if I got that wrong) No you did not get that wrong. I don’t know if Mike’s going to have a TS deal coming up here soon towards the earnings report, or if he’s going to ask for more shares authorized and dilute....? So am I buying now..no, but I’m not selling because of Vdex/Afrezza |
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Post by akemp3000 on Feb 21, 2020 17:27:07 GMT -5
An important event that just occurred is that LeAnne now gets to see what's behind the curtain at VDex meaning number of scripts, real growth rate, the order of importance of existing challenges, etc. I have no clue as to what she'll find but am very excited for her. While confidentiality requirements will prevent her from sharing some information, it's reassuring that she, who I consider to be one of us, will soon be able to even better evaluate the future for Afrezza. The old popular adage was, "I'll sell when Al sells". The new philosophy might be, "I'll sell when LeAnne sells" ...and buying applies also. :-) Thank you, obviously since I’ve been in close contact with them I was in the position to know they were going to need more people. I wouldn’t have been advocating them to my fellow shareholders if that had not been the case. It’s all good😎 To be honest some people were very skeptical, even though I assured them that the Vdex guys are straight shooters. I was not led astray as some suggested:-) I can’t wait to be able to report on the things I know are coming! Cheers🥂 This is very good to hear. Most of us here will be pulling for your and VDex great success!...and we will all still celebrate in Vegas one day |
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Post by wgreystone on Feb 21, 2020 17:33:04 GMT -5
:-) Thank you, obviously since I’ve been in close contact with them I was in the position to know they were going to need more people. I wouldn’t have been advocating them to my fellow shareholders if that had not been the case. It’s all good😎 To be honest some people were very skeptical, even though I assured them that the Vdex guys are straight shooters. I was not led astray as some suggested:-) I can’t wait to be able to report on the things I know are coming! Cheers🥂 This is very good to hear. Most of us here will be pulling for your and VDex great success!...and we will all still celebrate in Vegas one day Well, at least convince your CEO to support VDex as well. |
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Post by morfu on Feb 21, 2020 17:43:38 GMT -5
Well, sorry to rain on this parade and I am happy if LeAnne or anybody gets a good job! And yes she is a very nice person and helped diabetis patients and Afrezza a lot over many years! But wasn't VDex the company trying unsuccessfuly to blackmail Mannkind into some preferred status and their contribution to this company welldoing is almost neglectible so far? So I might even call them evil! LeAnne also repeatedly advocated short term goals as an investment strategy regarding Mannkind if I remember correctly (apologies if I got that wrong) No you did not get that wrong. I don’t know if Mike’s going to have a TS deal coming up here soon towards the earnings report, or if he’s going to ask for more shares authorized and dilute....? So am I buying now..no, but I’m not selling because of Vdex/Afrezza Well, I hope if Mike ever asks for more shares someone will remind him that he and his management gave away 20% of the shares for what was it mil30$!? at a time he didn't need that money! It is definitely not in the shareholders interest to support such behavior! I lost good money right there! Most of all I still want to know who got this present! This was my money, I am in the right to get fully informed about that deal! (And I keep writing this hoping to influence some bigger fish about it.. that deal still looks shady.. no more play money for you Mike! First say exactly how each share will be used!) |
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Post by mnholdem on Feb 21, 2020 17:59:02 GMT -5
Well, sorry to rain on this parade and I am happy if LeAnne or anybody gets a good job! And yes she is a very nice person and helped diabetis patients and Afrezza a lot over many years! But wasn't VDex the company trying unsuccessfuly to blackmail Mannkind into some preferred status and their contribution to this company welldoing is almost neglectible so far? So I might even call them evil! LeAnne also repeatedly advocated short term goals as an investment strategy regarding Mannkind if I remember correctly (apologies if I got that wrong) Interesting perspective, since we now know that the CEO proposed to buy into this "evil" Vdex. Are we to assume that their "almost neglible" contributions you refer to were the deals to sell Afrezza to countries in the MidEast with Vdex doing the training? Or are you referring to the treatment protocol that Vdex developed that resulted in a terrific retention rate or the white papers that far exceed anything published from corporate? Like LeAnne, for years I also advocated to many, many people to load up on MNKD shares. I repeated the phrase, "the science will prevail" more times than I can remember. I still believe in the science - and Vdex has validated my beliefs with their works - but I've since learned that great technology, science and medical can be hindered by an ineffectual and inexperience CEO. So far, Vdex management has a better scorecard than MannKind in my opinion. Of course you are entitled to yours as well. Good fortune to you.  |
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Post by longliner on Feb 21, 2020 18:19:05 GMT -5
Well, sorry to rain on this parade and I am happy if LeAnne or anybody gets a good job! And yes she is a very nice person and helped diabetis patients and Afrezza a lot over many years! But wasn't VDex the company trying unsuccessfuly to blackmail Mannkind into some preferred status and their contribution to this company welldoing is almost neglectible so far? So I might even call them evil! LeAnne also repeatedly advocated short term goals as an investment strategy regarding Mannkind if I remember correctly (apologies if I got that wrong) Interesting perspective, since we now know that the CEO proposed to buy into this "evil" Vdex. Are we to assume that their "almost neglible" contributions you refer to were the deals to sell Afrezza to countries in the MidEast with Vdex doing the training? Or are you referring to the treatment protocol that Vdex developed that resulted in a terrific retention rate or the white papers that far exceed anything published from corporate? Like LeAnne, for years I also advocated to many, many people to load up on MNKD shares. I repeated the phrase, "the science will prevail" more times than I can remember. I still believe in the science - and Vdex has validated my beliefs with their works - but I've since learned that great technology, science and medical can be hindered by an ineffectual and inexperience CEO. So far, Vdex management has a better scorecard than MannKind in my opinion. Of course you are entitled to yours as well. Good fortune to you. What is their scorecard? |
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Post by lifebreath on Feb 21, 2020 18:24:01 GMT -5
Well, sorry to rain on this parade and I am happy if LeAnne or anybody gets a good job! And yes she is a very nice person and helped diabetis patients and Afrezza a lot over many years! But wasn't VDex the company trying unsuccessfuly to blackmail Mannkind into some preferred status and their contribution to this company welldoing is almost neglectible so far? So I might even call them evil! LeAnne also repeatedly advocated short term goals as an investment strategy regarding Mannkind if I remember correctly (apologies if I got that wrong) Interesting perspective, since we now know that the CEO proposed to buy into this "evil" Vdex. Are we to assume that their "almost neglible" contributions you refer to were the deals to sell Afrezza to countries in the MidEast with Vdex doing the training? Or are you referring to the treatment protocol that Vdex developed that resulted in a terrific retention rate or the white papers that far exceed anything published from corporate? Like LeAnne, for years I also advocated to many, many people to load up on MNKD shares. I repeated the phrase, "the science will prevail" more times than I can remember. I still believe in the science - and Vdex has validated my beliefs with their works - but I've since learned that great technology, science and medical can be hindered by an ineffectual and inexperience CEO. So far, Vdex management has a better scorecard than MannKind in my opinion. Of course you are entitled to yours as well. Good fortune to you. Thanks for your articulate and accurate description of what has transpired and I have lived as well. I have the confidence in the science of Afrezza based on the results so many diabetics have claimed. An X client of mine worked closely with Kresa at NG. I have discussed MNKD Afrezza and Castagna with him many times. He is very surprised to hear how much crap Kresa has put up with regarding Castagna. He has described Kresa as a no nonsense CEO. I wonder what the hell happened to Kresa? I Invested in an Al Mann company not a Castagna company. |
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Post by ktim on Feb 21, 2020 18:30:33 GMT -5
Well, sorry to rain on this parade and I am happy if LeAnne or anybody gets a good job! And yes she is a very nice person and helped diabetis patients and Afrezza a lot over many years! But wasn't VDex the company trying unsuccessfuly to blackmail Mannkind into some preferred status and their contribution to this company welldoing is almost neglectible so far? So I might even call them evil! LeAnne also repeatedly advocated short term goals as an investment strategy regarding Mannkind if I remember correctly (apologies if I got that wrong) Interesting perspective, since we now know that the CEO proposed to buy into this "evil" Vdex. Are we to assume that their "almost neglible" contributions you refer to were the deals to sell Afrezza to countries in the MidEast with Vdex doing the training? Or are you referring to the treatment protocol that Vdex developed that resulted in a terrific retention rate or the white papers that far exceed anything published from corporate?Like LeAnne, for years I also advocated to many, many people to load up on MNKD shares. I repeated the phrase, "the science will prevail" more times than I can remember. I still believe in the science - and Vdex has validated my beliefs with their works - but I've since learned that great technology, science and medical can be hindered by an ineffectual and inexperience CEO. So far, Vdex management has a better scorecard than MannKind in my opinion. Of course you are entitled to yours as well. Good fortune to you. I don't think I really know enough about many of the things you list to have an informed opinion. However, I believe the only white papers VDex has produced are anecdotal results from a very small number of patients. Mannkind can't put out that sort of information as it is disallowed by FDA. Further, during that period MNKD has generated real trial data (granted still relatively small numbers) that has been presented/published. So that is one with which I'd disagree with you. Personally I think a "scorecard" of the one company vs the other is comparing apples and oranges. They really aren't in the same business space... and VDex is a private company so we'd never have the sort of financial insight into it as we do with public companies such as MNKD. Couldn't even give VDex a score against their true peers, which would be other specialty medical clinics such as DaVita or similar that are smaller. Let's compare MNKD to other pharma companies and VDex against other clinics (if there is any reason for us to even worry about VDex performance). MNKD and VDex aren't competitors or business peers. MNKD should give VDex the same support they would any other medical practice, and from what's been stated here by people that seem to know, a workable solution has been developed to avoid any bad blood that might have developed between individuals of the two companies, and while that may not reflect terribly well on either side in an overly personalized spat, it isn't all that rare in business dealings where personal relationships do come into play. |
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Post by ktim on Feb 21, 2020 18:35:15 GMT -5
Interesting perspective, since we now know that the CEO proposed to buy into this "evil" Vdex. Are we to assume that their "almost neglible" contributions you refer to were the deals to sell Afrezza to countries in the MidEast with Vdex doing the training? Or are you referring to the treatment protocol that Vdex developed that resulted in a terrific retention rate or the white papers that far exceed anything published from corporate? Like LeAnne, for years I also advocated to many, many people to load up on MNKD shares. I repeated the phrase, "the science will prevail" more times than I can remember. I still believe in the science - and Vdex has validated my beliefs with their works - but I've since learned that great technology, science and medical can be hindered by an ineffectual and inexperience CEO. So far, Vdex management has a better scorecard than MannKind in my opinion. Of course you are entitled to yours as well. Good fortune to you. Thanks for your articulate and accurate description of what has transpired and I have lived as well. I have the confidence in the science of Afrezza based on the results so many diabetics have claimed. An X client of mine worked closely with Kresa at NG. I have discussed MNKD Afrezza and Castagna with him many times. He is very surprised to hear how much crap Kresa has put up with regarding Castagna. He has described Kresa as a no nonsense CEO. I wonder what the hell happened to Kresa? I Invested in an Al Mann company not a Castagna company. You're stating that Kresa does not support Castagna? If so, does he not have enough of the other directors in agreement, or is it simply an issue of not being able to attract qualified candidates to replace Castagna? Note: I do take 3rd party accounts with a large dose of salt, but just curious what you believe has been conveyed to you. |
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Post by morfu on Feb 21, 2020 18:47:41 GMT -5
"Are we to assume that their "almost neglible" contributions you refer to were the deals to sell Afrezza to countries in the MidEast with Vdex doing the training? Or are you referring to the treatment protocol that Vdex developed that resulted in a terrific retention rate"
I meant VDex contributions to any measurable (and verifiable) earnings for mnkd, you mention things which are not. Any time a rate instead or a real number is mentioned I suspect shenanigans ...
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Post by falconquest on Feb 22, 2020 8:28:02 GMT -5
I'm going by what Sports has posted.. She talks to the Vdex people privately. She would probably be the better person to ask.. but I believe that she said some SH were wondering if Vdex and Mnkd were really working together. So Vdex responded to how that came about. Only thing I care about is the truth when it comes to all of this.. Certainly I don't want misinformation being spread about anyone.. IDK if it's VDEX, WDEX, XDEX or Afrezza at the local farmers market - we need some s--t to change and change soon. Unleash the Kendall, screw the FDA, where is the pediatric trial results and approval. Geezus - can we have some success while I'm still on top of the ground already. And if MC can't get the ball over the goal line - get someone who can. Sorry I went off on a rant. Please forgive me I'm cranking some MONTROSE and sipping on TITO'sI get in those moods now and then myself!  |
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...and buying applies also.
