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Post by seanismorris on Dec 2, 2019 13:47:07 GMT -5
My feeling is VDEX is just a group of diabetes docs, operating out of their existing offices (mostly) that have adopted the VDEX name for marketing purposes.
They do seem to share information, like Afrezza protocols, so that’s a good thing. But, are they really a game changer for Afrezza sales? Probably not. VDEX exists because of the half-assed Afrezza launch, where docs weren’t provided accurate information on dosing, and had to fight insurance companies (every step of the way) to get drugs (Afrezza) to their patients.
Hopefully MannKind has solved some of those problems...but maybe not because Afrezza scripts don’t impress.
Until VDEX has dozens/hundreds of “locations” they’re just a drop in the bucket. We should root for them, because they appear to be getting good results, but with muted expectations.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2019 15:12:42 GMT -5
My feeling is VDEX is just a group of diabetes docs, operating out of their existing offices (mostly) that have adopted the VDEX name for marketing purposes. They do seem to share information, like Afrezza protocols, so that’s a good thing. But, are they really a game changer for Afrezza sales? Probably not. VDEX exists because of the half-assed Afrezza launch, where docs weren’t provided accurate information on dosing, and had to fight insurance companies (every step of the way) to get drugs (Afrezza) to their patients. Hopefully MannKind has solved some of those problems...but maybe not because Afrezza scripts don’t impress. Until VDEX has dozens/hundreds of “locations” they’re just a drop in the bucket. We should root for them, because they appear to be getting good results, but with muted expectations. We will root for anyone selling Afrezza but to ask for a BOARD SEAT(S) and Special DiSCOUNTS to the drug?? No fucking way!!! |
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Post by wgreystone on Dec 2, 2019 15:32:46 GMT -5
My feeling is VDEX is just a group of diabetes docs, operating out of their existing offices (mostly) that have adopted the VDEX name for marketing purposes. They do seem to share information, like Afrezza protocols, so that’s a good thing. But, are they really a game changer for Afrezza sales? Probably not. VDEX exists because of the half-assed Afrezza launch, where docs weren’t provided accurate information on dosing, and had to fight insurance companies (every step of the way) to get drugs (Afrezza) to their patients. Hopefully MannKind has solved some of those problems...but maybe not because Afrezza scripts don’t impress. Until VDEX has dozens/hundreds of “locations” they’re just a drop in the bucket. We should root for them, because they appear to be getting good results, but with muted expectations. We will root for anyone selling Afrezza but to ask for a BOARD SEAT(S) and Special DiSCOUNTS to the drug?? No fucking way!!! There was no special discount being asked. Just the same discount that MNKD is giving to the current distributors. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Dec 3, 2019 13:17:41 GMT -5
1. Good question, I’m wondering the same thing. 2. I don’t think we’re anywhere close to a 1:2 nrx to rrx ratio. I haven’t seen a recent stat for retention, but last time it was calculated/estimated by somebody here, it was a depressingly anemic rate. That was before VDEX got rolling, and we know VDEX’s retention rate is much higher. 1. There's no way to circumvent the NEW YEAR SLOW DOWN. A lot of patients PULL their renewals into December to delay their deductible. It just comes with the territory. 2. VDEX is a SHAM. They average 2 scripts a month at each of their 3 locations? That's knocking it out the park. And I've never heard of a CLINIC having MEDICARE COVERAGE? But that's besides the point. It's time to STOP talking about VDEX. They are a 2 Bit CLINIC SHARING Company with a "so called" PROTOCOL that has NO BARRIER TO ENTRY. Once ENDOS become comfortable with Afrezza it will make VDEX just like a regular Doctors Office. Casper, It's clear you traffic in ignorance, if not outright dishonesty. As a first point, Vdex does get paid by Medicare. Regularly. I have attached an EOB reflecting one such recent payment. What do you say now?...You make several other claims about Vdex that suggest to me you are just making things up. I find your "two friends" story to be BS. If they really believed they could be titrated in two visits, then they are the first, and only, two out of the hundreds we've seen. How about revealing their names? If they want to discredit us, do so openly or risk being called out as a liar. One other overarching theme you should consider: we at Vdex recognize when we are making public statements about Afrezza, MannKind and Vdex scripts. There are laws prohibiting the making of false and misleading public statements about publicly-traded companies like MNKD. Violating those laws can trigger harsh penalties. There are also libel and slander laws that carry similar consequences. I am quite comfortable with ALL information we release to the public. I wonder if you can say the same thing? Bill McCullough |
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Post by mango on Dec 3, 2019 13:44:13 GMT -5
1. Good question, I’m wondering the same thing. 2. I don’t think we’re anywhere close to a 1:2 nrx to rrx ratio. I haven’t seen a recent stat for retention, but last time it was calculated/estimated by somebody here, it was a depressingly anemic rate. That was before VDEX got rolling, and we know VDEX’s retention rate is much higher. 1. There's no way to circumvent the NEW YEAR SLOW DOWN. A lot of patients PULL their renewals into December to delay their deductible. It just comes with the territory. 2. VDEX is a SHAM. They average 2 scripts a month at each of their 3 locations? That's knocking it out the park. And I've never heard of a CLINIC having MEDICARE COVERAGE? But that's besides the point. It's time to STOP talking about VDEX. They are a 2 Bit CLINIC SHARING Company with a "so called" PROTOCOL that has NO BARRIER TO ENTRY. Once ENDOS become comfortable with Afrezza it will make VDEX just like a regular Doctors Office. VDex Medicare Coverage Proof (redacted for privacy issues):  ————————— Conclusion: VDex is not a sham. |
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Post by cretin11 on Dec 3, 2019 16:04:51 GMT -5
Thanks mango.
To Casper: why should we "STOP talking about VDEX"? VDEX is a company that exists to help PWDs get on Afrezza. That accomplishes two good things, 1) to help PWDs, as we all agree Afrezza is superior to other insulins; and 2) helps sell Afrezza, as we all know MNKD has struggled with that.
You say "VDEX is a SHAM" - besides that statement being false, it's puzzling why you're so hostile to a group trying to help sell MNKD's flagship product. It reminds me of folks who used to say Afrezza is a waste of time.
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Post by rfogel on Dec 3, 2019 23:44:02 GMT -5
1. There's no way to circumvent the NEW YEAR SLOW DOWN. A lot of patients PULL their renewals into December to delay their deductible. It just comes with the territory. 2. VDEX is a SHAM. They average 2 scripts a month at each of their 3 locations? That's knocking it out the park. And I've never heard of a CLINIC having MEDICARE COVERAGE? But that's besides the point. It's time to STOP talking about VDEX. They are a 2 Bit CLINIC SHARING Company with a "so called" PROTOCOL that has NO BARRIER TO ENTRY. Once ENDOS become comfortable with Afrezza it will make VDEX just like a regular Doctors Office. VDex Medicare Coverage Proof (redacted for privacy issues): ————————— Conclusion: VDex is not a sham. Problem is that they redacted how much Medicare actually paid and how much was the responsibility of the patient. Medicare may have paid nothing. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Dec 3, 2019 23:49:55 GMT -5
VDex Medicare Coverage Proof (redacted for privacy issues): ————————— Conclusion: VDex is not a sham. Problem is that they redacted how much Medicare actually paid and how much was the responsibility of the patient. Medicare may have paid nothing. The patient responsibility was around $50. Which Mango can attest to. |
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Post by mango on Dec 4, 2019 8:24:26 GMT -5
VDex Medicare Coverage Proof (redacted for privacy issues): ————————— Conclusion: VDex is not a sham. Problem is that they redacted how much Medicare actually paid and how much was the responsibility of the patient. Medicare may have paid nothing. Yeah I promise you Medicare paid something, I wouldn’t have posted it if this wasn’t legit |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 9:28:51 GMT -5
Thanks mango. To Casper: why should we "STOP talking about VDEX"? VDEX is a company that exists to help PWDs get on Afrezza. That accomplishes two good things, 1) to help PWDs, as we all agree Afrezza is superior to other insulins; and 2) helps sell Afrezza, as we all know MNKD has struggled with that. You say "VDEX is a SHAM" - besides that statement being false, it's puzzling why you're so hostile to a group trying to help sell MNKD's flagship product. It reminds me of folks who used to say Afrezza is a waste of time. I'll make this really easy. VDEX is nothing but a small Mom and Pop Shop trying to take down a company because the Owner of the Shop made a bad stock investment in the company. If the stock price was $50 bucks this would not be an issue. Bill has ulterior motives and is using VDEX as his vehicle. This is the part I and many others have a problem. I can't believe the campaign you guys are putting on to disrupt the inner workings a company. It's pretty pathetic. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Dec 4, 2019 9:40:40 GMT -5
The thing is Bill doesn’t believe he made a bad investment, he believes Afrezza will be the success everybody knew it would be. This is completely false information. I believe part of the beef is with MC killing deals, nothing to do with the stock or investments, Xmas massacre.. Etc. etc.
Who wouldn’t be tired of this company languishing where it is when its true potential could be brought out. Bill will be giving his vision on bringing out shareholder value soon. As will the other candidates.
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Post by longliner on Dec 4, 2019 10:05:48 GMT -5
The thing is Bill doesn’t believe he made a bad investment, he believes Afrezza will be the success everybody knew it would be. This is completely false information. I believe part of the beef is with MC killing deals, nothing to do with the stock or investments, Xmas massacre.. Etc. etc. Who wouldn’t be tired of this company languishing where it is when its true potential could be brought out. Bill will be giving his vision on bringing out shareholder value soon. As will the other candidates. I hope his vision is presented clearer than the information he provided regarding the VDEX clinic data.  |
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Post by brotherm1 on Dec 4, 2019 10:16:43 GMT -5
Thanks mango. To Casper: why should we "STOP talking about VDEX"? VDEX is a company that exists to help PWDs get on Afrezza. That accomplishes two good things, 1) to help PWDs, as we all agree Afrezza is superior to other insulins; and 2) helps sell Afrezza, as we all know MNKD has struggled with that. You say "VDEX is a SHAM" - besides that statement being false, it's puzzling why you're so hostile to a group trying to help sell MNKD's flagship product. It reminds me of folks who used to say Afrezza is a waste of time. I'll make this really easy. VDEX is nothing but a small Mom and Pop Shop trying to take down a company because the Owner of the Shop made a bad stock investment in the company. If the stock price was $50 bucks this would not be an issue. Bill has ulterior motives and is using VDEX as his vehicle. This is the part I and many others have a problem. I can't believe the campaign you guys are putting on to disrupt the inner workings a company. It's pretty pathetic. He’s not trying to take down the company. He’s trying to improve it. And no shit, if the stock was $50 it most likely would not be an issue but the stock is obviously far from it. You are and have been way out of line with your thoughts and comments. |
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Post by porkini on Dec 4, 2019 11:02:57 GMT -5
I'll make this really easy. VDEX is nothing but a small Mom and Pop Shop trying to take down a company because the Owner of the Shop made a bad stock investment in the company. If the stock price was $50 bucks this would not be an issue. Bill has ulterior motives and is using VDEX as his vehicle. This is the part I and many others have a problem. I can't believe the campaign you guys are putting on to disrupt the inner workings a company. It's pretty pathetic. He’s not trying to take down the company. He’s trying to improve it. And no shit, if the stock was $50 it most likely would not be an issue but the stock is obviously far from it. You are and have been way out of line with your thoughts and comments. It would, arguably, also not be an issue if the stock were at $0.00 which it is much closer to. |
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Post by slugworth008 on Dec 4, 2019 11:11:41 GMT -5
Wow !!! ...I guess Vdex really does have insurance. Now it’s a scam ... Interesting contradiction by Casper the ghost. Who’s paying you buddy? Because you will be reported for your “scam” comment. Vdex has many T2’s going through Medicare. I hear the stories about the patients, about how long it takes to get them approved, about the results coming in handy if you don’t get approved the first time. And those patients ..they love everyone of their appointments, they feel secure that they can deal with it on their own by the time they get done going through the protocols. You can’t get 80+ retention without it. Maybe I can get two people to add two more important points:-) Stay tuned. You have no creditability. If you don't like a post you get it removed which you will do with this post. Thanks Casper - I needed a laugh this morning. VDEX is legit - you know it, I know it - The American people know it. |
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