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Post by cretin11 on Jan 17, 2023 12:15:38 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. Any number of CEOs at the helm would’ve had MNKD in as good (or better) position today. No decisions made by MC were extraordinary or outside of the box in a good way. The financial moves made were fairly standard.
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Post by phdedieu12 on Jan 17, 2023 13:39:07 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. Any number of CEOs at the helm would’ve had MNKD in as good (or better) position today. No decisions made by MC were extraordinary or outside of the box in a good way. The financial moves made were fairly standard. WHO??? If Elon Mush, Bill Gates, Tim Cook showed up, yes I would agree. I am certain there are plenty of very capable executives that COULD HAVE. Frankly I am getting tired of this angle, that some other guy could have done the same, that those decisions we banale and insignificant. What is wrong with you, seriously? Can we stop talking about all that could have been, about the imaginary CEO's that could have done the job, all the plans in one's mind and simply realize one guy showed up! That every single person before him botched, destroyed and brought the company to its knees, and that it is far more likely that most wouldn't come within miles of this company. And Debbie Downer wants to tell us that he has all the answers and that MC's decisions are terrible, so spare me the "mocking" sayhey, I simply did a synopsis of his tirades. Count your blessings that Mike was there, or like I said in my post, there wouldn't be a company or message board for you to sound off |
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Post by cretin11 on Jan 17, 2023 14:19:55 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. Any number of CEOs at the helm would’ve had MNKD in as good (or better) position today. No decisions made by MC were extraordinary or outside of the box in a good way. The financial moves made were fairly standard. WHO??? If Elon Mush, Bill Gates, Tim Cook showed up, yes I would agree. I am certain there are plenty of very capable executives that COULD HAVE. Frankly I am getting tired of this angle, that some other guy could have done the same, that those decisions we banale and insignificant. What is wrong with you, seriously? Can we stop talking about all that could have been, about the imaginary CEO's that could have done the job, all the plans in one's mind and simply realize one guy showed up! That every single person before him botched, destroyed and brought the company to its knees, and that it is far more likely that most wouldn't come within miles of this company. And Debbie Downer wants to tell us that he has all the answers and that MC's decisions are terrible, so spare me the "mocking" sayhey, I simply did a synopsis of his tirades. Count your blessings that Mike was there, or like I said in my post, there wouldn't be a company or message board for you to sound off Apparently you're doubling down on the angle that but for Mike, MannKind wouldn't even exist today. That implies he did something miraculous or made some amazing decision(s) to save the company. But there were no such amazing decisions. He diluted when money was needed, that along with the other financial moves are pretty standard stuff and not extraordinary. Any CEO could've executed on the UTHR deal that came along. Interestingly, he was brought in to turn around Afrezza, a task at which he failed but was able to parlay that into a promotion to CEO. That benefited him personally and must have involved some deft political moves within the company. We hoped that would translate to deftness in navigating the political world of diabetes treatments, but not yet. It's just a strange angle to claim Mike saved the company and nobody else could have. If anyone saved MNKD that person is Martine, as we would likely be facing another reverse split without UTHR. Everyone here wants MNKD to succeed and we're all entitled to our opinions about the details. Just as you are tired of people saying we could benefit from a better CEO, some folks are tired of people saying Mike is a miracle worker. Different perspectives, which is typical for a message board whether it's for a stock or a sports team. |
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Post by akemp3000 on Jan 17, 2023 14:19:57 GMT -5
MNKD is up 183% over the past three years. What percentage of CEO's would like that  |
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Post by longliner on Jan 17, 2023 16:04:48 GMT -5
MNKD is up 183% over the past three years. What percentage of CEO's would like that All except the "never Miker's"....  |
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Post by prcgorman2 on Jan 19, 2023 11:42:10 GMT -5
WHO??? If Elon Mush, Bill Gates, Tim Cook showed up, yes I would agree. I am certain there are plenty of very capable executives that COULD HAVE. Frankly I am getting tired of this angle, that some other guy could have done the same, that those decisions we banale and insignificant. What is wrong with you, seriously? Can we stop talking about all that could have been, about the imaginary CEO's that could have done the job, all the plans in one's mind and simply realize one guy showed up! That every single person before him botched, destroyed and brought the company to its knees, and that it is far more likely that most wouldn't come within miles of this company. And Debbie Downer wants to tell us that he has all the answers and that MC's decisions are terrible, so spare me the "mocking" sayhey, I simply did a synopsis of his tirades. Count your blessings that Mike was there, or like I said in my post, there wouldn't be a company or message board for you to sound off Apparently you're doubling down on the angle that but for Mike, MannKind wouldn't even exist today. That implies he did something miraculous or made some amazing decision(s) to save the company. But there were no such amazing decisions. He diluted when money was needed, that along with the other financial moves are pretty standard stuff and not extraordinary. Any CEO could've executed on the UTHR deal that came along. Interestingly, he was brought in to turn around Afrezza, a task at which he failed but was able to parlay that into a promotion to CEO. That benefited him personally and must have involved some deft political moves within the company. We hoped that would translate to deftness in navigating the political world of diabetes treatments, but not yet. It's just a strange angle to claim Mike saved the company and nobody else could have. If anyone saved MNKD that person is Martine, as we would likely be facing another reverse split without UTHR. Everyone here wants MNKD to succeed and we're all entitled to our opinions about the details. Just as you are tired of people saying we could benefit from a better CEO, some folks are tired of people saying Mike is a miracle worker. Different perspectives, which is typical for a message board whether it's for a stock or a sports team. phdedieu12 - as you can see, cretin11 has a prediliction for presenting a negative view of Mannkind and attributing Tyvaso DPI success to generosity of Martine Rothblatt (which I think is disingenuous to both Dr. Rothblatt’s business acuity and Dr. Castagna’s executive abilities). No argument you raise concerning past, present, and future accomplishments will disuade cretin11 from presenting counterarguments that persuade an opposing view. It’s their thing. |
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Post by cretin11 on Jan 19, 2023 11:53:48 GMT -5
gorman, you (and phdedieu) are entitled to take an emotional view of things and get upset by anyone expressing objectivity. Many of us used to be like that so we can relate to it. Afrezza and Technosphere are spectacular creations, they are the basis for having confidence in MNKD. Mr. Castagna is the CEO, we must hope for the best and that he has learned lessons from years of struggling. Thanks to the brilliant Al Mann, we have the relationship with Martine and UTHR providing us with crucial revenue keeping us out of reverse split territory. You are welcome to your own version of things, it's a free country - GLTATL!
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Post by prcgorman2 on Jan 19, 2023 11:58:32 GMT -5
cretin11 - thanks for helping to prove my points. Not that I needed any help, but you faithfully obliged. I apologize to you and the board for baiting you.
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Post by cretin11 on Jan 19, 2023 12:30:13 GMT -5
cretin11 - thanks for helping to prove my points. Not that I needed any help, but you faithfully obliged. I apologize to you and the board for baiting you. Glad we agree, you're coming around! Objectivity, rather than emotion, it will help you be a better investor. |
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Post by mytakeonit on Jan 19, 2023 12:57:03 GMT -5
GLTATL ... must mean Good Luck Tattle Taler  But, that's mytakeonit |
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Post by cretin11 on Jan 19, 2023 13:16:48 GMT -5
GLTATL ... must mean Good Luck Tattle Taler But, that's mytakeonit Good Luck To All True Longs!  |
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Post by phdedieu12 on Jan 19, 2023 15:56:12 GMT -5
cretin11 - thanks for helping to prove my points. Not that I needed any help, but you faithfully obliged. I apologize to you and the board for baiting you. Al picked up the phone and called Martine himself, of course he deserves the credit |
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