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Post by harryx1 on Nov 30, 2023 11:10:44 GMT -5
There wasn't a Inhale-1 specific thread, so I just put it here.
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Post by sayhey24 on Nov 30, 2023 15:24:18 GMT -5
Harry - thanks for posting this. I find it interesting that there seems to be a growing interest by the media now with the kids. It was also interesting that Norton Children’s Hospital is ranked among the top pediatric endocrinology programs nationally by U.S. News & World Report. Maybe its that the trials are going so well that these sites conducting the trials are now talking about them?
Some of the benefits they cited are not news to us here but the first, second and third is all about the injection and I know I have read here on proboards how injections are no big deal. It seems that it must be different with kids.
1. children don’t need to plan injections ahead of eating
2. one significant benefit for kids is fewer injections
3. multiple daily injections can be a major burden for children living with diabetes
Then they include a few more benefits of afrezza
4. it reaches the bloodstream much faster
5. this formulation allows children to take the insulin even as they’re eating
6. improved compliance and a reduced incidence of hypoglycemia when compared with RAAs
Who knows maybe the kids will finally jump start afrezza.
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Post by bthomas55ep on Nov 30, 2023 18:29:44 GMT -5
There wasn't a Inhale-1 specific thread, so I just put it here. Ultra-Fast was the headline I was gravitating towards. That establishes a category, as we all already know. |
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Post by sayhey24 on Nov 30, 2023 18:44:32 GMT -5
There wasn't a Inhale-1 specific thread, so I just put it here. Ultra-Fast was the headline I was gravitating towards. That establishes a category, as we all already know. Hope spring external Mike can move the ADA and its SoC.. Its been awhile since naming the "new" category has come up. 1. Ultra Rapid 2. Near Natural 3. Ultra Fast I am a near natural guy. I don't like any association with the rapid acting analogs. |
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Post by prcgorman2 on Dec 1, 2023 8:30:48 GMT -5
Harry - thanks for posting this. I find it interesting that there seems to be a growing interest by the media now with the kids. It was also interesting that Norton Children’s Hospital is ranked among the top pediatric endocrinology programs nationally by U.S. News & World Report. Maybe its that the trials are going so well that these sites conducting the trials are now talking about them? Some of the benefits they cited are not news to us here but the first, second and third is all about the injection and I know I have read here on proboards how injections are no big deal. It seems that it must be different with kids. 1. children don’t need to plan injections ahead of eating 2. one significant benefit for kids is fewer injections 3. multiple daily injections can be a major burden for children living with diabetes Then they include a few more benefits of afrezza 4. it reaches the bloodstream much faster 5. this formulation allows children to take the insulin even as they’re eating 6. improved compliance and a reduced incidence of hypoglycemia when compared with RAAs Who knows maybe the kids will finally jump start afrezza. I checked out the website yesterday but missed what you found and reported here so thank you for sharing! I think #s 5 and 6 are huge! I’ve wondered how school nurses (if the school has a nurse) dealt with T1 children needing mealtime insulin bolus. I’ve assumed the children are not permitted to keep the insulin with them (for safety and perhaps partly because of refrigeration guidelines) and that the children have to be supervised during administration of the mealtime bolus. This has to be somewhat stressful for the child and the adult. Safety and compliance are huge all by themselves but the thought as an adult supervisor of being less fearful of hypoglycemia would be major. It would be fantastic if schools adopted a program of requiring Afrezza for T1 children (and maybe could subsidize the cost through community funding mechanisms similar to school lunches). |
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Post by uvula on Dec 1, 2023 9:41:38 GMT -5
If schools are going to mandate anything it would be cgms and pumps.
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Post by hellodolly on Dec 1, 2023 10:06:54 GMT -5
If schools are going to mandate anything it would be cgms and pumps. "It would be fantastic if schools adopted a program of requiring Afrezza for T1 children (and maybe could subsidize the cost through community funding mechanisms similar to school lunches)." - Voluntary "If schools are going to mandate anything it would be cgms and pumps." - Involuntary Which sounds more plausible and could potentially be supported by families, teachers, schools and communities? |
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Post by awesomo on Dec 1, 2023 10:18:17 GMT -5
If schools are going to mandate anything it would be cgms and pumps. "It would be fantastic if schools adopted a program of requiring Afrezza for T1 children (and maybe could subsidize the cost through community funding mechanisms similar to school lunches)." - Voluntary "If schools are going to mandate anything it would be cgms and pumps." - Involuntary Which sounds more plausible and could potentially be supported by families, teachers, schools and communities? Public schools in the U.S. generally can barely even receive enough funding for basic school supplies, so it is highly unlikely they would ever be adopting a program to subsidize a premium treatment like Afrezza. |
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Post by uvula on Dec 1, 2023 10:26:05 GMT -5
I meant to say adopt not mandate. And I don't think it is likely that schools will adopt or mandate anything.
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Post by sayhey24 on Dec 1, 2023 10:29:41 GMT -5
If schools are going to mandate anything it would be cgms and pumps. Here is a pretty good read - www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7682111/I would think afrezza has the potential to make the nurse's lives a lot easier. Lots of kids are now wearing pumps and there is lots of associated maintenance with them and they are all different and require educational training which the nurses don't get. One thought I had in reading this is it may be helpful if the MNKD sales reps did educational sessions with the school districts after afrezza approval. |
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Post by uvula on Dec 1, 2023 10:50:23 GMT -5
Quickly read the article. I don't think they mentioned injections or compared injections to pumps.
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Post by peppy on Dec 1, 2023 11:02:21 GMT -5
I meant to say adopt not mandate. And I don't think it is likely that schools will adopt or mandate anything. While the pharmacy purchasing managers seem to have been given permission to override physicians, I do not believe the school boards can over ride physicians. I can not believe I allowed myself to get roped in to this random conjecture. |
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Post by sayhey24 on Dec 1, 2023 11:08:36 GMT -5
Quickly read the article. I don't think they mentioned injections or compared injections to pumps. Injections were the SoC and the nurses knew how to deal with them. Now they have all these different pumps. On top of that they have CGMS and meters not macthing and mom's calling the schools saying their kids are going low. Afrezza should reduce the hypo concerns a bit and no need for all the pump stuff and no need for pre-planning lunch shots before lunch. It should make things much easier and I would think once the nurses get a little education on this they would push for afrezza. Then again hope springs external with afrezza. |
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Post by cretin11 on Dec 1, 2023 11:11:35 GMT -5
That’s some serious hopium. But hey, that’s what we do here!
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Post by sayhey24 on Dec 1, 2023 11:28:26 GMT -5
That’s some serious hopium. But hey, that’s what we do here! The total market is small about 400k but the moms are a social media powerhouse and provide the potential for significant earned advertising to make afrezza a household name. The big market is Medicare T2 but the kids are an important first step. |
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