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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 12, 2024 10:08:26 GMT -5
I can definitely see MNKD doing a Super Bowl Commercial NEXT YEAR after PEDS Approval. That would be an even bigger waste than the Jesus commercials. IMO - its really worth listening to this interview with Calley Means. One thing he said is the open secret is the BP commercials are not about selling product to the end user. As we all know scripted drugs require a doctor to subscribe and Calley said the doctors are already paid to subscribe. He said the purpose of the commercials is to pay off the networks so their news coverage is favorable to these drugs. How much bad coverage have we seen on GLP1s - yet 50% stop using within a few months due to issues? That seems like news. tuckercarlson.com/the-case-against-ozempic/
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Post by limo on Feb 12, 2024 10:31:37 GMT -5
That would be an even bigger waste than the Jesus commercials. IMO - its really worth listening to this interview with Calley Means. One thin he said is the open secret is the BP commercials are not about selling product to the end user. As we all know scripted drugs require a doctor to subscribe and Calley said the doctors are already paid to to subscribe. He said the purpose of the commercials is to pay off the networks so their news coverage is favorable to these drugs. How much bad coverage have we seen on GLP1s - yet 50% stop using within a few months due to issues? That seems like news. tuckercarlson.com/the-case-against-ozempic/ not really a problem for them given they've barely penetrated 1% of the addressable market
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 12, 2024 13:00:57 GMT -5
IMO - its really worth listening to this interview with Calley Means. One thing he said is the open secret is the BP commercials are not about selling product to the end user. As we all know scripted drugs require a doctor to subscribe and Calley said the doctors are already paid to subscribe. He said the purpose of the commercials is to pay off the networks so their news coverage is favorable to these drugs. How much bad coverage have we seen on GLP1s - yet 50% stop using within a few months due to issues? That seems like news. tuckercarlson.com/the-case-against-ozempic/If that's what Cally is saying I glad I didn't bother to watch. No doctor I know is paid to prescribe a drug, that is a criminal offence amongst other reasons both for them and the drug company, but really it's because they prescribe what they believe is best. That isn't going to sell books though. Drug advertising is about familiarity rather than direct sales, the same as car advertising. And drug companies advertise on networks because them competitors do and you don't cede mindshare if you can avoid it. Ever considered that people stop using GLP-1 when they hit their target weight? It's not cheap out of pocket. That is the specific pattern the NHS uses with GLP-1 for weight loss, they withdraw it as soon as you hit target or plateau.
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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 12, 2024 13:19:44 GMT -5
IMO - its really worth listening to this interview with Calley Means. One thing he said is the open secret is the BP commercials are not about selling product to the end user. As we all know scripted drugs require a doctor to subscribe and Calley said the doctors are already paid to subscribe. He said the purpose of the commercials is to pay off the networks so their news coverage is favorable to these drugs. How much bad coverage have we seen on GLP1s - yet 50% stop using within a few months due to issues? That seems like news. tuckercarlson.com/the-case-against-ozempic/If that's what Cally is saying I glad I didn't bother to watch. No doctor I know is paid to prescribe a drug, that is a criminal offence amongst other reasons both for them and the drug company, but really it's because they prescribe what they believe is best. That isn't going to sell books though. Drug advertising is about familiarity rather than direct sales, the same as car advertising. And drug companies advertise on networks because them competitors do and you don't cede mindshare if you can avoid it. Ever considered that people stop using GLP-1 when they hit their target weight? It's not cheap out of pocket. That is the specific pattern the NHS uses with GLP-1 for weight loss, they withdraw it as soon as you hit target or plateau. I think Calley believes what he is saying. Was it illegal to fund covid development at the Ukrainian labs and Wuhan? Come on - what he is saying is they get paid to do all kinds of consulting. Is that illegal? Was starting up bioweapon development legal again after the Patriot Act? What I do know is Dr Fauci "Amerca's leading infectious disease expert" was the highest paid federal employee - more than the president and Generals. The problem with the GLP1s is they are drugs for life. You just can't stop because then you gain the weight back or more. Have you seen John Goodman lately after stopping Ozempic? So no its a combination of several issues including cost and nausea. Part of the issue is their A1Cs have dropped below the "Diabetic" range so they lose insurance coverage. Now thats a target market for Saxenda DPI - offered at a low price - lets say $99. After they have done the heavy lifting with Ozempic and Mounjarno they switch to Saxenda for maintenance which has less nausea and costs a lot less. Just look at the Lilly pill trial. They announced a few months ago they are seeing 50%+ drop out rate because the participants got too sick.
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 12, 2024 13:57:40 GMT -5
... The problem with the GLP1s is they are drugs for life. You just can't stop because then you gain the weight back or more. Have you seen John Goodman lately after stopping Ozempic? So no its a combination of several issues including cost and nausea. Part of the issue is their A1Cs have dropped below the "Diabetic" range so they lose insurance coverage. Now thats a target market for Saxenda DPI - offered at a low price - lets say $99. After they have done the heavy lifting with Ozempic and Mounjarno they switch to Saxenda for maintenance which has less nausea and costs a lot less. I tend to trust Stevil as he is actually treating patients with GLP-1, and he says his patients rarely stop because of nausea and that it's mostly gone after the first month or so. The cost issue though is real and why, although it is a drug for life, it is not necessary to continuously take it (as with the UK NHS). Why swap from one GLP-1 analog to another, especially if one like Saxenda with a higher dropout rate.
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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 12, 2024 15:36:42 GMT -5
... The problem with the GLP1s is they are drugs for life. You just can't stop because then you gain the weight back or more. Have you seen John Goodman lately after stopping Ozempic? So no its a combination of several issues including cost and nausea. Part of the issue is their A1Cs have dropped below the "Diabetic" range so they lose insurance coverage. Now thats a target market for Saxenda DPI - offered at a low price - lets say $99. After they have done the heavy lifting with Ozempic and Mounjarno they switch to Saxenda for maintenance which has less nausea and costs a lot less. I tend to trust Stevil as he is actually treating patients with GLP-1, and he says his patients rarely stop because of nausea and that it's mostly gone after the first month or so. The cost issue though is real and why, although it is a drug for life, it is not necessary to continuously take it (as with the UK NHS). Why swap from one GLP-1 analog to another, especially if one like Saxenda with a higher dropout rate. What he said was they had severe nausea. Then he said he never said it. Then when showed he said it he said it but it was his phones fault. He also said he gives them another med to deal with the nausea and that helps too. I am going with Calley over Stevil even though Calley is not a doctor but his sister is, not that that matters. GLP1s cause tummy issues. They paralyze the stomach. The reason to switch to Saxenda DPI is for three reasons; cost; daily light weight causing less nausea ; inhaled vs shots. Why is LQDA making their product? Its no better than Tyvaso DPI but they think they can get 20% of the market. Maybe Saxenda DPI can get 10% with no clinical benefits except it being inhaled. Here is what Pfizer said about tummy issues - While the most common adverse events were mild and gastrointestinal in nature consistent with the mechanism, high rates were observed (up to 73% nausea; up to 47% vomiting; up to 25% diarrhea). High discontinuation rates, greater than 50% www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-announces-topline-phase-2b-results-oral-glp-1r
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 12, 2024 17:21:28 GMT -5
What he said was they had severe nausea. Then he said he never said it. Then when showed he said it he said it but it was his phones fault. He also said he gives them another med to deal with the nausea and that helps too. I am going with Calley over Stevil even though Calley is not a doctor but his sister is, not that that matters. ... Go back and read all of what stevil said. You go with Calley, who doesn't even play a doctor on TV, for medical advice. Me? I prefer an actual doctor who is in the trenches.
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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 12, 2024 18:18:22 GMT -5
What he said was they had severe nausea. Then he said he never said it. Then when showed he said it he said it but it was his phones fault. He also said he gives them another med to deal with the nausea and that helps too. I am going with Calley over Stevil even though Calley is not a doctor but his sister is, not that that matters. ... Go back and read all of what stevil said. You go with Calley, who doesn't even play a doctor on TV, for medical advice. Me? I prefer an actual doctor who is in the trenches. Yes, Stevil said it was his phones fault for him slipping up. I am sticking with the work Al Mann did who was not a doctor versus Stevil's limited experience. I am also sticking with what Calley Means thinks. It may not be 100% correct but much of it makes a lot of sense. It actually explains the stupid flying hamburger ad which never ever made sense to me. Here we have Pfizer who makes a vaccine which does not prevent you from getting covid and then sells paxlovid to help treat covid which the vaccine did not prevent. Then yesterday we had their Super Bowl ad "Here's to Science". Where are the news stories ripping Pfizer and explaining how they already had a vaccine in their hip pocket as soon as covid hit? For those interested here is the interview which I think is worth listening to tuckercarlson.com/the-case-against-ozempic/
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Post by daisyz on Feb 12, 2024 21:09:17 GMT -5
If that's what Cally is saying I glad I didn't bother to watch. No doctor I know is paid to prescribe a drug, that is a criminal offence amongst other reasons both for them and the drug company, but really it's because they prescribe what they believe is best. That isn't going to sell books though. Drug advertising is about familiarity rather than direct sales, the same as car advertising. And drug companies advertise on networks because them competitors do and you don't cede mindshare if you can avoid it. Ever considered that people stop using GLP-1 when they hit their target weight? It's not cheap out of pocket. That is the specific pattern the NHS uses with GLP-1 for weight loss, they withdraw it as soon as you hit target or plateau. I think Calley believes what he is saying. Was it illegal to fund covid development at the Ukrainian labs and Wuhan? Come on - what he is saying is they get paid to do all kinds of consulting. Is that illegal? Was starting up bioweapon development legal again after the Patriot Act? What I do know is Dr Fauci "Amerca's leading infectious disease expert" was the highest paid federal employee - more than the president and Generals. The problem with the GLP1s is they are drugs for life. You just can't stop because then you gain the weight back or more. Have you seen John Goodman lately after stopping Ozempic? So no its a combination of several issues including cost and nausea. Part of the issue is their A1Cs have dropped below the "Diabetic" range so they lose insurance coverage. Now thats a target market for Saxenda DPI - offered at a low price - lets say $99. After they have done the heavy lifting with Ozempic and Mounjarno they switch to Saxenda for maintenance which has less nausea and costs a lot less. Just look at the Lilly pill trial. They announced a few months ago they are seeing 50%+ drop out rate because the participants got too sick. Part of the issue is their A1Cs have dropped below the "Diabetic" range so they lose insurance coverage..... Where are you getting this information? Healthcare insurance companies have no idea what anybody's A1C is.
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Post by hopingandwilling on Feb 12, 2024 22:02:21 GMT -5
Daisy! Daisy! You state--- "Where are you getting this information? Healthcare insurance companies have no idea what anybody's A1C is."
I hope you awake from your trance real soon--there is a brave new world out there waiting to scare the bejabbers out of you.
There are no secrets for your medical records. In fact, the healthcare insurance companies are the masters of that universe. How do you think they can deny your coverage if they didn't know your health data?
Let me give you an example... Last year I had the occasion to visit one of my doctor's via one of the teleconferencing systems--see could see me and I could see her.
She was reading from my file record created each time I see her in person. She was reading the file and suddenly see said, "I see you saw another doctor last week. Why did you see him?" Initial it didn't dawn on me as for what she was saying---"I see you saw another doctor last week----" Finally, I ask her how she saw that I had seen another doctor. Her response was simply--"Your medical records can be seen by any doctor." A month or so later I was seeing a new doctor for another issue. She was reviewing my file, tests results, etc. She asked me to verify her list of medications she had listed. I asked her if I could see the list---the turned her screen so I could see what she was reading from. I was totally shocked from what I could see as for my medical history going back decades.
Obviously, you have never search for any item on Amazon, where weeks later you get emails from Amazon telling you the item you had searched for is still available. Watch DateLine this week on NBC---the real case murders that they present, the murderer is usually caught on surveillance video camera showing him driving way in the red automobile and that is how they catch him or her.
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Post by prcgorman2 on Feb 12, 2024 22:49:19 GMT -5
Have we exhausted the “Tyvaso DPI TV Commercial” thread yet?
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Post by Clement on Feb 13, 2024 6:45:05 GMT -5
Gee I hope so.
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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 13, 2024 7:41:41 GMT -5
I think Calley believes what he is saying. Was it illegal to fund covid development at the Ukrainian labs and Wuhan? Come on - what he is saying is they get paid to do all kinds of consulting. Is that illegal? Was starting up bioweapon development legal again after the Patriot Act? What I do know is Dr Fauci "Amerca's leading infectious disease expert" was the highest paid federal employee - more than the president and Generals. The problem with the GLP1s is they are drugs for life. You just can't stop because then you gain the weight back or more. Have you seen John Goodman lately after stopping Ozempic? So no its a combination of several issues including cost and nausea. Part of the issue is their A1Cs have dropped below the "Diabetic" range so they lose insurance coverage. Now thats a target market for Saxenda DPI - offered at a low price - lets say $99. After they have done the heavy lifting with Ozempic and Mounjarno they switch to Saxenda for maintenance which has less nausea and costs a lot less. Just look at the Lilly pill trial. They announced a few months ago they are seeing 50%+ drop out rate because the participants got too sick. Part of the issue is their A1Cs have dropped below the "Diabetic" range so they lose insurance coverage..... Where are you getting this information? Healthcare insurance companies have no idea what anybody's A1C is. Really? You really need to pay attention to these laws which get passed and our news agencies - the same ones getting paid by Big Pharma according to Calley - tell us how great they will be but every time they give you something but take more away. Back in 2009 under the Obama administration we got the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act 2009. All your medical records are available to the medical community. There has been a theory that if you can control some ones health - well do I need to say more? Here is an overview of this great advancement - as we were told www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7043175/
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Post by prcgorman2 on Feb 13, 2024 9:34:03 GMT -5
Tyvaso DPI TV advertisement...
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Post by sayhey24 on Feb 13, 2024 19:35:34 GMT -5
Tyvaso DPI TV advertisement... Tyvaso DPI is an orphan drug. It would make no sense in running a TV ad for an orphan drug. News agencies will not report badly on them no matter how bad they are. Now that we understand the open secret that BP TV ads are to pay the networks so their news agencies don't negatively report about these drugs things make sense. No one with PAH is going into their doctor to demand Tyvaso DPI because they saw a flying hamburger on TV. Their doctor is either going to prescribe Tyvaso DPI or Yutrepia depending on which rep has a "better relationship" with the doctor.
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