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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 22:11:22 GMT -5
So the stock is going to further decline because people on yahoo message boards are expecting TV commercials and SNY will be in print ads to start?
Did I get your argument right?
For the record, I agree with your premise, minus the passive aggressive tone interlaced, but most people on this board are long term investors, not swing/day trading MNKD. I doubt many are influenced by the short term price fluctuations, especially if they've been through this much already.
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Post by savzak on May 13, 2015 22:18:25 GMT -5
Sellers remorse? Whistling past the graveyard? No remorse at all. Just making a point. Instead of attacking me personally why not discuss or refute what I wrote? I guess you can't because it is easier for you to attack than think. No attack. Just an observation/question. You're hanging around here like a ghost. If you're done with MNKD, maybe you should move on. Just a suggestion. Why are you here talking down MNKD? You have no interest anymore. If not sellers remorse, why are you here?
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Post by lynn on May 13, 2015 22:21:55 GMT -5
So the stock is going to further decline because people on yahoo message boards are expecting TV commercials and SNY will be in print ads to start? Did I get your argument right? For the record, I agree with your premise, minus the passive aggressive tone interlaced, but most people on this board are long term investors, not swing/day trading MNKD. I doubt many are influenced by the short term price fluctuations, especially if they've been through this much already. I've got thick skin , I opened my ROTH yesterday & deposited funds , I'm ready to let the shorts battle this down & have the fire power in place to scoop up more shares , Bring it I'm ready !!
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Post by notamnkdmillionaire on May 13, 2015 22:22:43 GMT -5
So the stock is going to further decline because people on yahoo message boards are expecting TV commercials and SNY will be in print ads to start? Did I get your argument right? For the record, I agree with your premise, minus the passive aggressive tone interlaced, but most people on this board are long term investors, not swing/day trading MNKD. I doubt many are influenced by the short term price fluctuations, especially if they've been through this much already. No. You didn't get it right. I am just pointing out how some on the Yahoo board keep getting it wrong and ignore reality and facts. And I am willing to bet many who have held for a long time have thought a few times they wish they had taken some profits off the table. And one's position has nothing to do with what I wrote. It's my analysis, like it or not. Why certain people want to attack me for my opinion because I sold and waiting to get back in at a lower price says a lot more about them than me. I am not hating on them yet they want to disparage me. Sounds like they are the bitter ones.
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Post by savzak on May 13, 2015 22:23:37 GMT -5
So the stock is going to further decline because people on yahoo message boards are expecting TV commercials and SNY will be in print ads to start? Did I get your argument right? For the record, I agree with your premise, minus the passive aggressive tone interlaced, but most people on this board are long term investors, not swing/day trading MNKD. I doubt many are influenced by the short term price fluctuations, especially if they've been through this much already. I agree. The presentation today means little in the wake of Goldmans $2 target and an avalanche of downgrades. It'll be forgotten quickly if the scripts dont increase on Friday. Still, Matt did what most were asking for after the earnings call on Friday. He put a happy, positive face on the current status.
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Post by notamnkdmillionaire on May 13, 2015 22:28:49 GMT -5
No remorse at all. Just making a point. Instead of attacking me personally why not discuss or refute what I wrote? I guess you can't because it is easier for you to attack than think. No attack. Just an observation/question. You're hanging around here like a ghost. If you're done with MNKD, maybe you should move on. Just a suggestion. Why are you here talking down MNKD? You have no interest anymore. If not sellers remorse, why are you here? Because owning shares isn't a prereq to post. Why does an opposing opinion rankle you so much that you have to question my motives for posting? I've been honest about what I have done and what I plan to do. You don't have to agree with them. If you believe my posts are running afoul of the site's TUO, take it up with the mods.
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on May 13, 2015 22:37:22 GMT -5
In my opinion, and in agreement with several here, Matt, which is clear it has always been the most eloquent of the regular speakers in the the MNKD's cc and conferences, did what needed to be done. Try to restore some confidence. However, also in agreement, with several others here, I do not think that changes much the situation. Scripts at the end of the week still will rule the game... wait, let me restate that, shorts will use scripts at the end of the week to keep pushing down the sp. I do not pretend to know for how long the will be able to succeed at this nasty game, but given that in the last month alone they have been very successful I assume they are simply not yet ready to let up. If they were, all they have done until now would be pointless. At least for the time being Matt has stopped the bleeding and might have slowed it down comes Friday (when probably we will keep seeing a slow progress and probably a push to know down the sp even further). Joeypotsandpans series of posts on the shorts possibly not gaining any traction yet are very interesting and possibly right on the money. This means that the shorts need to push this as far as they can possibly can and keep it there long enough to exit their positions. We will see in the next few SI reports if any of this has started or not, but until then I would not bet on it just yet.
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Post by savzak on May 13, 2015 22:37:32 GMT -5
No attack. Just an observation/question. You're hanging around here like a ghost. If you're done with MNKD, maybe you should move on. Just a suggestion. Why are you here talking down MNKD? You have no interest anymore. If not sellers remorse, why are you here? Because owning shares isn't a prereq to post. Why does an opposing opinion rankle you so much that you have to question my motives for posting? I've been honest about what I have done and what I plan to do. You don't have to agree with them. If you believe my posts are running afoul of the site's TUO, take it up with the mods. Are you intentionally misreading my posts? I'm not challenging your opinion. I've not even indicated I disagree with you. I'm suggesting that you aren't comfortable with your decision to sell and are using this forum to publicly convince yourself that you did the right thing. If that's not what's going on in your mind, I'm asking why you are here. I'm not arguing the merits of MNKD as an investment. I'm asking why you don't move on. Finally, I'm not saying you have no right to post since you sold. Post 100 times a day if you want. I don't care. I'm just asking...why?
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Post by notamnkdmillionaire on May 13, 2015 22:48:13 GMT -5
Because owning shares isn't a prereq to post. Why does an opposing opinion rankle you so much that you have to question my motives for posting? I've been honest about what I have done and what I plan to do. You don't have to agree with them. If you believe my posts are running afoul of the site's TUO, take it up with the mods. Are you intentionally misreading my posts? I'm not challenging your opinion. I've not even indicated I disagree with you. I'm suggesting that you aren't comfortable with your decision to sell and are using this forum to publicly convince yourself that you did the right thing. If that's not what's going on in your mind, I'm asking why you are here. I'm not arguing the merits of MNKD as an investment. I'm asking why you don't move on. Finally, I'm not saying you have no right to post since you sold. Post 100 times a day if you want. I don't care. I'm just asking...why? Only you are convinced that I am not comfortable my decision even when I have told you I am. You are more conflicted than I am it appears. I still post because I still think the company has a future and while I am not currently invested in it, I plan to get back in once the shorts have had their way. My question to you, is why is it a problem that I am still posting? I doubt you would have asked the same question if I stated I wasn't yet an investor but posted positive things you agree with. You obviously do not think anyone without shares should be posting here let alone posting a contrarian view point. It obviously irritates you. My final suggestion is to block me so you don't have read my views.
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Post by savzak on May 13, 2015 22:53:59 GMT -5
Are you intentionally misreading my posts? I'm not challenging your opinion. I've not even indicated I disagree with you. I'm suggesting that you aren't comfortable with your decision to sell and are using this forum to publicly convince yourself that you did the right thing. If that's not what's going on in your mind, I'm asking why you are here. I'm not arguing the merits of MNKD as an investment. I'm asking why you don't move on. Finally, I'm not saying you have no right to post since you sold. Post 100 times a day if you want. I don't care. I'm just asking...why? Only you are convinced that I am not comfortable my decision even when I have told you I am. You are more conflicted than I am it appears. I still post because I still think the company has a future and while I am not currently invested in it, I plan to get back in once the shorts have had their way. My question to you, is why is it a problem that I am still posting? I doubt you would have asked the same question if I stated I wasn't yet an investor but posted positive things you agree with. You obviously do not think anyone without shares should be posting here let alone posting a contrarian view point. It obviously irritates you. My final suggestion is to block me so you don't have read my views. Ok. Good luck getting back in.
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Post by alexer on May 13, 2015 23:25:57 GMT -5
Matt did a great job!
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Post by babaoriley on May 14, 2015 1:42:25 GMT -5
mnkdmillionaire, based on your handle, the thought that you may be a bit bitter about the way things stand now is not really a stretch, although it could be incorrect.
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Post by fedakd on May 14, 2015 3:22:52 GMT -5
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on May 14, 2015 11:14:23 GMT -5
Do you sense that Matt and Al set up the ultimate game of chess for the shorts last Friday? The delivered the news and only the news and had even the longs concerned as it was a just giving out information. But today they surprised even us with a very nice slick presentation and a great slide deck. They set the stage last week to get everyone's attention in the investment world and it did exactly that from the longs and shorts. The bashing was really horrible. But today they presented what we thought they should have last week?
Checkmate. They do have a game plan and the know how to execute it. KC, I wish I could say otherwise, but no I do not thing this was a bear trap of any kind. However, I finally was able to listen to the replay of the presentation and, as others have stated, I think Matt did a great job keeping quiet where he had to but providing relevant information where he must. He is likely the sole responsible of stopping the daily bleeding in the sp for the moment. Although comes RXs on Friday we might see renewed attacks from the short side.
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Post by mnholdem on May 14, 2015 11:27:30 GMT -5
I agree with EotD. I'm chuckling at what some might consider meaningless, but the slide presentation seemed hastily prepared. Of course, it simply may mean that Matt or someone on his staff could use some training in graphic arts.
I think Matt put it together recently because of the pressure retail investors (maybe even some tutes?) are putting on the Investor Relations department.
No chess match IMO.
Hopefully, though, more meaningful disclosure will continue and perhaps we "little" investors have gotten the message through to management that transparency is NOT a bad thing. Example? Matt could say "we have had discussions with six companies" without having to disclose their names or APIs. Instead, he simply said MannKind is talking to "more than one"?
At least he disclosed the number of sample packs. Information-starved investors jumped on that like hungry lions on a T-Bone.
In all this, I suspect that management wants to disclose more about Afrezza than Sanofi will let them. So I'll repeat this suggestion: Why not have a Sanofi representative present to answer sales & marketing questions?
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