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Post by parrerob on Oct 18, 2015 15:34:48 GMT -5
upgrade@ of Sanofi is best partner as they dont have competing meal time insulin..apidra doesnt have a major market while the others do... ( Novo and Lilly's - )... so these thoughts should be put to rest... Al owns 40% and knows whats best lol Yeah Al owns 40% and over 50% of shares are shorted. Not making any conclusions here, just saying, if Al wanted a squeeze, Al could get one. Likewise with Sanofi. We need to get Lizbeth Salander involved... I don't think Al dedicate time to think about a short squeeze. No scope on that. This is not his game, He is interested in the success of his product and his technology. He is interested in the divulgation of his innovative cure and to leave us a new way to take medicinal that can possibly bring together with future studies discoveries and improvements to an upgrade of the human being. Alfred Mann does not dedicate, IMO, 1 minute of his life to plan a short squeeze. He does not like shorter, as He says, but this is a different story. If Afrezza will start penetrating the market under MNKD ownership, or if Afrezza will change ownership before penetrating the market then We will have a squeeze. But it will be the consequence.
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Post by rvc on Oct 18, 2015 16:14:30 GMT -5
June? Unfortunately that's about the last update SNY gave on Afrezza.
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Post by trenddiver on Oct 18, 2015 16:22:52 GMT -5
Didn't Matt make it clear at a recent conference call that no company employee is permitted to short MNKD stock or have shares in any account that allows the shares to be loaned? I simply don't believe that Matt would be that disengenuous to make such a statement if the Chairman of the Board were doing otherwise. Sorry, but I don't buy into the popular bash against Al or MNKD management. Silence does not imply complicity, IMHO. I don't believe Matt ever said that employees couldn't lend shares. If you have such a statement from Matt, please provide the link Or CC date. trend
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Post by cathode on Oct 18, 2015 16:27:51 GMT -5
Q2 2015 CC: Matt --
Within MannKind, employees are not allowed to hold shares in an account where they can be lent, which certainly means shares must be held in a cash account, not a margin account.
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Post by jpg on Oct 18, 2015 16:42:20 GMT -5
Didn't Matt make it clear at a recent conference call that no company employee is permitted to short MNKD stock or have shares in any account that allows the shares to be loaned? I simply don't believe that Matt would be that disengenuous to make such a statement if the Chairman of the Board were doing otherwise. Sorry, but I don't buy into the popular bash against Al or MNKD management. Silence does not imply complicity, IMHO. I don't believe Matt ever said that employees couldn't lend shares. If you have such a statement from Matt, please provide the link Or CC date. trend I thought this has been satisfactorily addressed by management and made clear none of the insiders lend shares (including Al Mann). What evidence do you have that they are 'misspeaking'? That would certainly be a big deal if your information that insiders are lending shares (and saying the opposite). Or is this simply random speculation on your part?
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Post by trenddiver on Oct 18, 2015 16:49:09 GMT -5
Q2 2015 CC: Matt -- Within MannKind, employees are not allowed to hold shares in an account where they can be lent, which certainly means shares must be held in a cash account, not a margin account.
Are you saying that you cannot lend shares held in a cash account?
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Post by cathode on Oct 18, 2015 16:51:58 GMT -5
Q2 2015 CC: Matt -- Within MannKind, employees are not allowed to hold shares in an account where they can be lent, which certainly means shares must be held in a cash account, not a margin account.
Are you saying that you cannot lend shares held in a cash account? I am not saying anything. Giving reference of what management said.
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Post by mnholdem on Oct 18, 2015 16:52:56 GMT -5
Didn't Matt make it clear at a recent conference call that no company employee is permitted to short MNKD stock or have shares in any account that allows the shares to be loaned? I simply don't believe that Matt would be that disengenuous to make such a statement if the Chairman of the Board were doing otherwise. Sorry, but I don't buy into the popular bash against Al or MNKD management. Silence does not imply complicity, IMHO. I don't believe Matt ever said that employees couldn't lend shares. If you have such a statement from Matt, please provide the link Or CC date. trend seekingalpha.com/article/3423816-mannkinds-mnkd-ceo-hakan-edstrom-on-q2-2015-results-earnings-call-transcriptI would think you you would have learned where to get an earnings transcript by now.
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Post by trenddiver on Oct 18, 2015 17:42:57 GMT -5
Q2 2015 CC: Matt -- Within MannKind, employees are not allowed to hold shares in an account where they can be lent, which certainly means shares must be held in a cash account, not a margin account.
Like I said, Matt did not say employees could not lend their shares. There is a big difference between what Matt said and an unequivocal statement which says that insiders and employees are not permitted to lend their shares. And even if there was such a policy, how could it be enforced. Unless management somehow had control over or copies of employee or insider brokerage statements, management would have no idea whether an insider or employee is lending their shares. My suggestion that Al may be lending his shares or may have lent his shares is speculation on my part but not random speculation as suggested by jpg. trend
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Post by mnholdem on Oct 18, 2015 18:32:21 GMT -5
Your point is valid, as is mine that it would be disingenuous for Matt to make such a statement if Officers and Directors are lending shares. So we've both made our point. Time to move on.
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Post by patryn on Oct 19, 2015 2:17:45 GMT -5
It's possible that individual employees could be loaning shares as there is no way to tell. However, as I mentioned a few times now, if the major shareholders are loaning out shares, it would be reflected in the proxy statements during the annual meeting and could result in board members being elected that they do not want. So it would be unlikely that the insiders are loaning out the shares. I would say impossible, but nothing in this world is impossible.
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Post by anims515 on Oct 19, 2015 3:50:53 GMT -5
Q2 2015 CC: Matt -- Within MannKind, employees are not allowed to hold shares in an account where they can be lent, which certainly means shares must be held in a cash account, not a margin account.
Like I said, Matt did not say employees could not lend their shares. There is a big difference between what Matt said and an unequivocal statement which says that insiders and employees are not permitted to lend their shares. And even if there was such a policy, how could it be enforced. Unless management somehow had control over or copies of employee or insider brokerage statements, management would have no idea whether an insider or employee is lending their shares. My suggestion that Al may be lending his shares or may have lent his shares is speculation on my part but not random speculation as suggested by jpg. trend If you are not allowed to hold shares in an account with the ability to lend, then how can you lend the shares? I don't have experience with owning shares in a company I work for but if there are rules associated with stock options I'm sure there's a penalty for breaking the rules and that penalty could surely be the loss of the shares or future options and maybe even loss of employment. Not to mention the inability to vote with the shares which is more important to employees than normal investors. Anything is possible, but that doesn't mean it's true or happening. Shares can be lent more than once, hence the higher ratio than plausible if looking at it with the idea that shares can be lent only once. It sounds like you have a story you have created in your head and have a close minded thought process. This is a conspiracy theory at best. People that believe 9/11 was orchestrated have more to grasp at than what you're trying to convince people. If you think management is disingenuous and "evil" then why invest in the company? There are plenty of reasons to doubt the long term success of the company but Al lending shares is not one of them.
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Post by trenddiver on Oct 29, 2015 9:30:33 GMT -5
Q2 2015 CC: Matt -- Within MannKind, employees are not allowed to hold shares in an account where they can be lent, which certainly means shares must be held in a cash account, not a margin account.
Like I said, Matt did not say employees could not lend their shares. There is a big difference between what Matt said and an unequivocal statement which says that insiders and employees are not permitted to lend their shares. And even if there was such a policy, how could it be enforced. Unless management somehow had control over or copies of employee or insider brokerage statements, management would have no idea whether an insider or employee is lending their shares. My suggestion that Al may be lending his shares or may have lent his shares is speculation on my part but not random speculation as suggested by jpg. trend I received an answer from Matt regarding this topic. He said that Mannkind's insider trading policy prohibits the lending of shares by insiders. Trend
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Post by avogadro on Oct 29, 2015 11:23:39 GMT -5
This discussion is just another example of confusion resulting from less than lucid communication on the part of MNKD management.
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Post by trenddiver on Oct 29, 2015 13:36:32 GMT -5
This discussion is just another example of confusion resulting from less than lucid communication on the part of MNKD management. Avo, My thoughts about management are no secret on this board. However I did take the opportunity (based on one of the posters suggestions) to send an email to Matt and I can report he was responsive to my questions and concerns. Although many on this board are concerned about what is being said and what is not being said by management, I'm concluding that Matt and Hakan are more than extremely careful about what is said in a public setting particularly in dealing with proprietary information and strategies. A lot of very important stuff is going on right now and I'm sure management doesn't want to make any mistakes. I'm hoping that Matt and Hakan can be a little more informative on the next conference call. Trend
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