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Post by mnholdem on Feb 1, 2016 13:38:46 GMT -5
(Knock knock) here! here! I should say I recall a time when this board would welcome new members -vocally - who found the **courage** to speak up. And kindly give directions to "helpful" resources to answer their questions or guidance (benefit of the doubt) on board etiquette. That said - certainly as our financial environment and its event horizon has dramatically changed, so the tone of these new member posts have as well. Its always been difficult to ascertain the difference between the basher and the simply jaded or disillusioned. Or the former being especially good at spoofing the latter. But this board to me has always represented the potential of the most thoughtful and civilized discourse, as a result of its active moderation. [remainder clipped] I have come on this board looking for direction on my investment. Along the way I may have broken some unwritten rules. As a result I have been bashed, insulted and have had three of my threads locked!!!!!.. Ty Sue for bring this to everyone's attention. Today I have increased my position with another 10k shares purchased.. And one of my Physician friend has also bought more. He has been doing research into Affrezza and believes 1. It is a medication that will help many people. And 2. SANOFI halted this companies growth. Please keep in mind that sometimes moderators must lock threads because they get "hijacked" by others and take off in a different direction than a topic/comment/question posted by the originator or because the thread unfortunately takes a hostile turn. The reasons for locking threads are varied and not because of who originated the thread.
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Post by me on Feb 1, 2016 13:41:54 GMT -5
In have noticed a recent move to beat up on new members, a few that have even been MNKD supporters. I don't think this had turned into a long suffering MNKD stock holders group. I enjoy seeing new people come on the board. Sometimes they pose questions that have already been answered, but so do some of us long time members!. Sometimes they post stuff that seems insignificant to us, but so are a whole host of other long time posters who post screenshots or charts or repeating articles with no other explanations. I have done all of these things many times myself and no one bashes me! Let's give the newbies a break... At least until we have determined, without a doubt, that they are here just to create confusion and dread. And speaking purely for myself... what already exists cannot be created. Actually, dbc, suebeeee1 is not implying that there is no confusion and dread, only that if someone's purpose for posting appears to be the creation of confusion and dread, then that poster deserves no break. For the bazillionth time (at least), I would like to make clear that I believe (I won't speak for anyone else) that sometimes we'll have legitimate newbies posting who really don't know anything about DD of stocks (or finance in general) and are truly seeking advice (although it is a bit mind boggling that they would do so on a MB and that they would do so with a biotech). On the other hand, there are posters who will continuously shade their questions or comments for the purpose of creating confusion and dread. It is these posters that have taken the brunt of negative responses on this board and rightly so. Posting to create confusion and dread is not the same as contributing thoughtful analyses or insightful questions to further refine one's DD of the stock. Whenever I see, "I'm a long, but..." 99 times out of a hundred, it means, "I'm a soft basher and I'll try to be as subtle as possible so I can continue to sow confusion and dread on this board. Because if I truly believed what my questions and comments implied, I would have sold a long time ago. Or at least I wouldn't waste my time posting on a board who's subject stock no longer holds out any positive prospect for me." <=unless of course one has nothing else going on in life. Finally, to suebeeee1's point about giving the benefit of the doubt to new posters, many here already do that. And when suspicions are confirmed, those posters are simply blocked. That's why many true longs here now see so many threads with hidden posts. It certainly makes it easier to read pertinent information that is posted without ill intent.
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Feb 1, 2016 14:03:58 GMT -5
me... I did understand... I was half joking. Though the other half of my terse point is that some (most, all?) of us may be experiencing confusion and dread because of concrete realities of having lost so much money. When one feels negative emotions like that one must be cautious to not lash out at others that in all likelihood have nothing to do with the source of emotional turmoil. So my point is that someone asking a simple question would hardly seem to be a big contributing factor to "confusion and dread"... at least it isn't for my state of "confusion and dread". I also would have to politely disagree with the assessment that no real long investors MNKD legitimately wish to discuss or express negative things that they see regarding MNKD. I think many (including myself) that will bring up things like insolvency would LOVE beyond belief if it were something that was never discussed here... because there was no chance of it happening. I would hope as much as I've posted here and discussed when I purchased more shares, etc. that no one would confuse me for someone that has shorted MNKD (I started a short lived pep rally a couple of months ago when formularylookup.com posted some invalid data that made it look like we had made significant progress on insurance coverage). However, I still often say "I'm a long, but...". Further, it seems that many others that in the past have expressed negative things... e.g. "I'm a long, but I fear SNY is sandbagging"... turned out to be expressing a reality many others of us (including me) did not wish to recognize. Were 99% of them being disingenuous bashers... despite being correct?
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Post by me on Feb 1, 2016 14:26:43 GMT -5
me ... I did understand... I was half joking. Though the other half of my terse point is that some (most, all?) of us may be experiencing confusion and dread because of concrete realities of having lost so much money. When one feels negative emotions like that one must be cautious to not lash out at others that in all likelihood have nothing to do with the source of emotional turmoil. So my point is that someone asking a simple question would hardly seem to be a big contributing factor to "confusion and dread"... at least it isn't for my state of "confusion and dread". I also would have to politely disagree with the assessment that no real long investors MNKD legitimately wish to discuss or express negative things that they see regarding MNKD. I think many (including myself) that will bring up things like insolvency would LOVE beyond belief if it were something that was never discussed here... because there was no chance of it happening. I would hope as much as I've posted here and discussed when I purchased more shares, etc. that no one would confuse me for someone that has shorted MNKD (I started a short lived pep rally a couple of months ago when formularylookup.com posted some invalid data that made it look like we had made significant progress on insurance coverage). However, I still often say "I'm a long, but...". Further, it seems that many others that in the past have expressed negative things... e.g. "I'm a long, but I fear SNY is sandbagging"... turned out to be expressing a reality many others of us (including me) did not wish to recognize. Were 99% of them being disingenuous bashers... despite being correct? I never said that real longs do not legitimately wish to discuss or express negative things. What I said was that real longs do not do this for the purpose of sowing confusion and dread. Most all true longs on this board are intelligent enough to tease out the hidden objectives of these types of posters. To your point about "I"m a long, but I fear SNY is sandbagging." If I were to post that last fall and I truly believed it because that's what my DD and my situational analysis led me to, then I would have sold other than a small core and (because I believe in the science) would have looked for an enticing entry point after the event. In fact, some longs here did exactly that over the course of the last six or seven months, whether they retained a core holding or not. For these longs, their fears or actions if described on this board, were not for the purpose of sowing confusion and dread. While you may disagree with me, I believe there is quite a bit of difference here...and that difference, when not properly filtered (by each individual, not the moderators), can lessen the benefit of this board.
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Post by BlueCat on Feb 1, 2016 14:29:42 GMT -5
Quite a while ago (year?), I did ask the question here or on ST about delist. At the time, it seemed premature, unrealistic and frankly, dark. I was in a dark place that day with the stock shenanigans. Gads do I wish that didn't remotely seem like a premonition now.
Now I'm long and depressed still, but .... feel as though I avoid sharing the darkest thoughts because I've come to worry that I'm jinxing the place.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 16:45:44 GMT -5
Started doing acupuncture a couple of weeks ago for stress and some other ailments. I recommend it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 16:47:47 GMT -5
Only in MNKD stock can you have so many different classifications of stock holders
1) delusional long 2) Real Long 3) Short Long 4) fake long 5) Wish I shorted long
Anyone care to add?
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Post by mnholdem on Feb 1, 2016 18:11:21 GMT -5
After 10 years of one obstacle after another?
6) Long in the tooth long
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Post by BlueCat on Feb 1, 2016 21:45:19 GMT -5
7. Depressed Long
Ok. Fake long I get (imposters!)
But I've never really understood this 'real long' thing. Either you are, or aren't.
Some may effectively be long-er. But holding it down to Hades and not selling should qualify just about anyone - regardless of their tenure, IMHO. I think the biggest divide is whether you DD on the business and market opportunity, or on the daily stock charts/trends.
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Post by babaoriley on Feb 1, 2016 23:23:06 GMT -5
In have noticed a recent move to beat up on new members, a few that have even been MNKD supporters. I don't think this had turned into a long suffering MNKD stock holders group. I enjoy seeing new people come on the board. Sometimes they pose questions that have already been answered, but so do some of us long time members!. Sometimes they post stuff that seems insignificant to us, but so are a whole host of other long time posters who post screenshots or charts or repeating articles with no other explanations. I have done all of these things many times myself and no one bashes me! Let's give the newbies a break... At least until we have determined, without a doubt, that they are here just to create confusion and dread. Suebeeee, you have no idea what we say about you behind your back!
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