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Post by dreamboatcruise on Feb 23, 2016 12:50:23 GMT -5
Considering SNY's treachery , I'm reminded that most of the experts on this board, at the time MNKD was seeking an Afrezza partner, named said SNY as the best possible choice they could make. Might I plead the 5th.
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Post by stevil on Feb 24, 2016 5:00:38 GMT -5
It's still lost on me that if SNY was trying to torpedo MNKD, why would they allow them to hang around long enough to survive? The death knell hasn't rung yet. If SNY was so afraid of the success of Afrezza, they wouldn't leave it sitting around for someone else to pick it up and wield it. Let's play Lord of the Rings. If you find the One Ring, you don't just throw it away and let someone else find it, especially for a pittance.
SNY might be the dumbest company of all time if MNKD makes a turnaround worthy of a book/movie. I'm hoping for our sakes that they are, but even Matt's confidence can't convince me that SNY made a blunder of epic proportions and Afrezza will find success quickly enough to keep us afloat.
SNY could have chosen to keep 65% of the market share they'd eventually lose anyway, or they could have bought us outright. They chose to do neither and treated us as though we weren't even worth the time to give us a full go of it on the market. The only thing that makes sense to me is SNY truly believed it wasn't worth their time/investment. Let's hope they were just dead wrong, careless, and foolish.
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Post by babaoriley on Feb 24, 2016 7:38:47 GMT -5
"The only thing that makes sense to me is SNY truly believed it wasn't worth their time/investment. Let's hope they were just dead wrong, careless, and foolish."
I think the above accurately summarizes the SNY/MNKD situation.
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Post by figglebird on Feb 24, 2016 8:21:10 GMT -5
Actually, there is a middle ground here - a likelier one that speaks more to reality than certainty.
Sanofi remains, particularly during the time of partnership with mnkd, a mega company going through or initiating transition - I have seen plenty of mishandling or in ept planning across the board - the bigger the company the more likely this happens.
The pr is just pr - it never indicates a certainty just breaks as civil as possible.
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Post by kbrion77 on Feb 24, 2016 8:39:23 GMT -5
"The only thing that makes sense to me is SNY truly believed it wasn't worth their time/investment. Let's hope they were just dead wrong, careless, and foolish." I think the above accurately summarizes the SNY/MNKD situation. Viehbacher wanted to take Sanofi into a new age direction, Afrezza was apart of that strategy and he was fired for it. Brandicourt was brought in to focus and enhance existing portfolio products, Afrezza does not fit into that strategy. That's how I'm looking at the situation but who knows.
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Post by avogadro on Feb 24, 2016 9:00:40 GMT -5
Matt's remarks about turning this company around indicate supreme confidence. Enough that he quips that someday there may be a book or movie about this "epic story"
In exchange for that sh%#y movie, can I get my multi- thousand $ loss back?
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Post by mindovermatter on Feb 24, 2016 9:03:40 GMT -5
Matt's remarks about turning this company around indicate supreme confidence. Enough that he quips that someday there may be a book or movie about this "epic story".
CEO Pfeffer certainly does not sound like a man who thinks that MannKind Corporation is on the ropes... IMHO. Be careful. He didn't say epic SUCCESS story. Not every epic story turns out well. This could most likely be an EPIC disaster as it has been trending to be and has been for many so far.
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Post by avogadro on Feb 24, 2016 9:11:42 GMT -5
The movie will probably be a "Saga", as in "never give a saga an even break" (thanks, Mel)
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Post by cjc04 on Feb 24, 2016 9:23:13 GMT -5
Matt's remarks about turning this company around indicate supreme confidence. Enough that he quips that someday there may be a book or movie about this "epic story".
CEO Pfeffer certainly does not sound like a man who thinks that MannKind Corporation is on the ropes... IMHO. Be careful. He didn't say epic SUCCESS story. Not every epic story turns out well. This could most likely be an EPIC disaster as it has been trending to be and has been for many so far. Yea, I'm sure that's EXACTLY what he meant.
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Post by spiro on Feb 24, 2016 9:31:38 GMT -5
Baba, anyone who is successfully using Afrezza, clearly knows that Sanofi was negligent in their efforts to promote the drug. Hopefully, Matt was not talking with a forked tongue at the RBC conference.
Spiro here, still hiding out, but holding strong
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Post by coo2002coo on Feb 24, 2016 9:41:45 GMT -5
Baba, anyone who is successfully using Afrezza, clearly knows that Sanofi was negligent in their efforts to promote the drug. Hopefully, Matt was not talking with a forked tongue at the RBC conference. Spiro here, still hiding out, but holding strong I think it is difficult to establish negligence on part of SNY; however, they have definitely failed to put their BEST EFFORTS to launch and market the drug.
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Post by peppy on Feb 24, 2016 9:56:21 GMT -5
Baba, anyone who is successfully using Afrezza, clearly knows that Sanofi was negligent in their efforts to promote the drug. Hopefully, Matt was not talking with a forked tongue at the RBC conference. Spiro here, still hiding out, but holding strong I think it is difficult to establish negligence on part of SNY; however, they have definitely failed to put their BEST EFFORTS to launch and market the drug. If it could be proved that SNY shorted MNKD stock, that would prove negligence.
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Post by lynn on Feb 24, 2016 10:35:13 GMT -5
Baba, anyone who is successfully using Afrezza, clearly knows that Sanofi was negligent in their efforts to promote the drug. Hopefully, Matt was not talking with a forked tongue at the RBC conference. Spiro here, still hiding out, but holding strong Spiro and Baba , It's nice to see you still around I'll be hiding out in Mexico . I'll order a cocktail at the bar on the beach and make a toast to you all and Mannkind I don't have a worry in the world right now . Paradise is awaiting Cheers Lynn
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Post by spiro on Feb 24, 2016 10:48:28 GMT -5
Lynn,
I hope you have a great time in Mexico, but watch out for the legals down there. Spiro is not going anywhere, ok, maybe Siberia. Spiro is feeling pain like most other MNKD longs , but is annoyed by the constant complaining and whining on the message boards. You know real pain today is having a portfolio of oil stocks. MNKD shareholders actually have less pain than most energy company shareholders. Just look at LINE, it was over $32.50 on July of 2014. It's selling .39 today. EOX is selling for .75 today after a 1/13 reverse spilt, followed by a 1/20 reverse split. Now that's real pain if you were a deer in the headlights with those two and there are dozens of more examples. People need to move or quit whining about MNKD. It's a dollar stock, we are rolling the dice now, so why whine?
Spiro here, BTW, I can whine with the best of them.
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Post by coo2002coo on Feb 24, 2016 10:55:29 GMT -5
I think it is difficult to establish negligence on part of SNY; however, they have definitely failed to put their BEST EFFORTS to launch and market the drug. If it could be proved that SNY shorted MNKD stock, that would prove negligence.
I believe it would then be a criminal act in concert, not any nature of negligence.
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