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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Feb 26, 2016 20:41:56 GMT -5
I guess they just used what is most appropriate from the designer package they bought with the website.
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Post by xoxoxoxo on Feb 26, 2016 20:46:53 GMT -5
xo, what is bad about small urgent care centers? I would argue that they work closer to the patient and are less expensive. Grass root level approach. I was thinking if it was a big company like CVS then the national rollout would be much simpler/easier. I'm happy if these small ones take off. If scripts ever start trending up I plan to buy back into mnkd
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Feb 26, 2016 20:48:52 GMT -5
From their site... "To control any variable such as blood glucose, requires two things: the practical ability to measure that variable in real-time and the ability to affect it. Together, we will provide “Real-Time Diabetes Management” and it is the cornerstone of our therapy."
I wonder if they will try to get every patient on a CGM. It would seem a huge battle to get most patients approved for both CGM and Afrezza.
It really is a shame one of those non invasive BG meters hasn't made it to market.
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 26, 2016 20:50:08 GMT -5
The interview has a strange comment. They say they will have a doctor on the premises, but not an endo (...there is an endo on call). What sort of doctor do you have in a diabetes specialist service if not an endo? This sounds like they just use the existing doctors and drive diabetics there by marketing.
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Post by peppy on Feb 26, 2016 20:51:07 GMT -5
I guess they just used what is most appropriate from the designer package they bought with the website. type ones the target group. type ones can get the insurance restrictions waved. plus it is urgent care. Once the word gets out, it will be a distribution center as well.
We need to see continuous glucose monitoring of some sort included for my extra happiness.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting the first to open is next to the hobby lobby. A type two wear house. (I am sooooo inappropriate.)
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 26, 2016 20:56:06 GMT -5
From their site... "To control any variable such as blood glucose, requires two things: the practical ability to measure that variable in real-time and the ability to affect it. Together, we will provide “Real-Time Diabetes Management” and it is the cornerstone of our therapy." I wonder if they will try to get every patient on a CGM. It would seem a huge battle to get most patients approved for both CGM and Afrezza. It really is a shame one of those non invasive BG meters hasn't made it to market. None of the Medicare patients will get coverage for a CGM and that is certain. Nor will almost any Type 2. Type 1 is possible but it can be a fight. The Glucowatch made it to the market, but it got withdrawn because it cause skin irritation and had accuracy problems.
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Post by peppy on Feb 26, 2016 20:57:23 GMT -5
The interview has a strange comment. They say they will have a doctor on the premises, but not an endo (...there is an endo on call). What sort of doctor do you have in a diabetes specialist service if not an endo? This sounds like they just use the existing doctors and drive diabetics there by marketing. An MD can handle Blood sugars.
ENDOCRINOLGY Endocrinologists are specially trained physicians who diagnose diseases related to the glands. ›Menopause ›Diabetes ›Metabolic disorders ›Lack of growth ›Osteoporosis ›Thyroid diseases ›Cancers of the endocrine glands ›Over- or under-production of hormones ›Cholesterol disorders ›Hypertension ›Infertility
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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Feb 26, 2016 21:05:30 GMT -5
xo, I believe their business model is sound. They use existing premises and people. Patients might already be familiar with the place and the people, so cross-marketing should work. They have one brand 'vdex' and provide the marketing, website, protocols, some equipment and contracts.
If it works out in NJ, there will be soon a lot of care centers lining up to join (or other intermediates appear that serve other regions). In such a case smaller care centers are quicker. Wonder for which area Vdex has exclusivity.
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 26, 2016 21:06:16 GMT -5
The interview has a strange comment. They say they will have a doctor on the premises, but not an endo (...there is an endo on call). What sort of doctor do you have in a diabetes specialist service if not an endo? This sounds like they just use the existing doctors and drive diabetics there by marketing. An MD can handle Blood sugars.
ENDOCRINOLGY ›Menopause ›Diabetes ›Metabolic disorders ›Lack of growth ›Osteoporosis ›Thyroid diseases ›Cancers of the endocrine glands ›Over- or under-production of hormones ›Cholesterol disorders ›Hypertension ›Infertility
Diabetes is a lot more complex than just blood sugars. Not to mention the strange and interesting ways blood sugars can behave. If this is going to be for Type 2 diabetics who want but don't absolutely require insulin then yes I can see you could use anyone because the regulatory system will clean up the mess. For Type 1 though I cannot see this as anywhere near a starter. As a Type 1 if you have a problem you need an endo and probably your own endo or an endo in the same group who has access to your records.
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Post by peppy on Feb 26, 2016 21:15:18 GMT -5
An MD can handle Blood sugars.
ENDOCRINOLGY ›Menopause ›Diabetes ›Metabolic disorders ›Lack of growth ›Osteoporosis ›Thyroid diseases ›Cancers of the endocrine glands ›Over- or under-production of hormones ›Cholesterol disorders ›Hypertension ›Infertility
Diabetes is a lot more complex than just blood sugars. Not to mention the strange and interesting ways blood sugars can behave. If this is going to be for Type 2 diabetics who want but don't absolutely require insulin then yes I can see you could use anyone because the regulatory system will clean up the mess. For Type 1 though I cannot see this as anywhere near a starter. As a Type 1 if you have a problem you need an endo and probably your own endo or an endo in the same group who has access to your records. I watched specialist for years specializing in intensive cares. A physician with an MD generalized can do the job. You have a human being. Increasing urine output, peeing all the time. Thirsty, so thirsty, losing weight..... finally you end up in an urgent care center, They take a glucose level from your finger. a blood sugar, it is 400 or 500. Physicians in urgent care center have to treat the hypoglycemia from other insulin. That seems to be ok with you.
This is not rocket science.
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Post by tayl5 on Feb 26, 2016 21:16:09 GMT -5
The work is Perfect.
At the very least the models' teeth are. It looks like an A&F ad, or maybe for a cosmetic dentistry office. Seems off for a diabetes clinic. I'm curious to know what you'd prefer to see, Benjiyu. Would it be blind old people with diabetic foot ulcers? Maybe some folks with advanced heart disease? I agree the people on the website aren't typical diabetics, but neither are Eric Fenar, Sam Finta, Gustavo Basualdo and our other Twitter heroes. Maybe an aspirational image is the way to go.
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Post by peppy on Feb 26, 2016 21:22:13 GMT -5
quote: I'm curious to know what you'd prefer to see, Benjiyu. Would it be blind old people with diabetic foot ulcers? Maybe some folks with advanced heart disease? I agree the people on the website aren't typical diabetics, but neither are Eric Fenar, Sam Finta and Gustavo Basualdo and our other Twitter heroes. Maybe an aspirational image is the way to go. REply: screencast.com/t/SO7AnwUMvkYG
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Post by BlueCat on Feb 26, 2016 21:25:52 GMT -5
Throw some fang caps on those grins and it might get scary .... LOL
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 26, 2016 21:32:13 GMT -5
Diabetes is a lot more complex than just blood sugars. Not to mention the strange and interesting ways blood sugars can behave. If this is going to be for Type 2 diabetics who want but don't absolutely require insulin then yes I can see you could use anyone because the regulatory system will clean up the mess. For Type 1 though I cannot see this as anywhere near a starter. As a Type 1 if you have a problem you need an endo and probably your own endo or an endo in the same group who has access to your records. I watched specialist for years specializing in intensive cares. A physician with an MD generalized can do the job. You have a human being. Increasing urine output, peeing all the time. Thirsty, so thirsty, losing weight..... finally you end up in an urgent care center, They take a glucose level from your finger. a blood sugar, it is 400 or 500. Physicians in urgent care center have to treat the hypoglycemia from other insulin. That seems to be ok with you.
This is not rocket science.
Anyone with first aid knowledge can treat hypoglycemia - it's glucose gel if they can swallow (that stuff is disgusting), or a glucagon shot if they cannot. If you are insulin dependent your insurer will provide a glucagon kit for you to keep with you. Hyperglycemia is more of a problem because depending on the circumstances you may need an IV and that is where an endo making the decision is a good idea. Any doctor could do it but I have had enough bad experiences with doctors (including in hospitals) to want an endo. I am trying to figure out their market. I do not think Type 1 diabetics will use it because if it is an emergency you are either going to ER or your endo, urgent care may treat you but they are sending you to the ER at the end of it anyway so you may as well go straight in. If it is not an emergency then it's a scheduled visit and you want your endo for consistency. I could see a role for Type 2 diabetics who have been on metformin for a while and it is beginning to fail. That would be a good fit.
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Post by xoxoxoxo on Feb 26, 2016 21:44:16 GMT -5
This has to be geared towards the type 2 diabetics and they will teach them to just take a small cartridge before a small meal, or a large cartridge before a large meal.
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