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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 15:44:39 GMT -5
So, we hang on for now and wait for the Ship of State to make its long turn back the other way. It’s hard when the SP is under such assault as it is again today, but we will prevail. This is a war we’re in and Winston Churchill said it best: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.” I for one have tightened my chin strap and remain resolute. Aloha. So you think that this is all short selling? No one is getting spooked and selling their shares?
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Post by centralcoastinvestor on Oct 17, 2016 15:57:27 GMT -5
So, we hang on for now and wait for the Ship of State to make its long turn back the other way. It’s hard when the SP is under such assault as it is again today, but we will prevail. This is a war we’re in and Winston Churchill said it best: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.” I for one have tightened my chin strap and remain resolute. Aloha. So you think that this is all short selling? No one is getting spooked and selling their shares? It seems like the daily volume is too low for wholesale capitulation.
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Post by esstan2001 on Oct 17, 2016 15:57:48 GMT -5
So, we hang on for now and wait for the Ship of State to make its long turn back the other way. It’s hard when the SP is under such assault as it is again today, but we will prevail. This is a war we’re in and Winston Churchill said it best: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.” I for one have tightened my chin strap and remain resolute. Aloha. So you think that this is all short selling? No one is getting spooked and selling their shares? There are certainly valid reasons for shareholders getting 'spooked'. But there is also every reason to believe that in this environment the shorts would ply their wares in parallel to magnify the effect. That is in their best interest.
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Post by mnkdnewb on Oct 17, 2016 19:22:48 GMT -5
So you think that this is all short selling? No one is getting spooked and selling their shares? There are certainly valid reasons for shareholders getting 'spooked'. But there is also every reason to believe that in this environment the shorts would ply their wares in parallel to magnify the effect. That is in their best interest. Exactly. I'd think about shorting it! I don't see it going up, why would it? The only thing I see that would make it go up is a buyout - but I think we are past that. Crazy to short something with confidence after losing $65,000? I don't think so. But then again, I'm not touching this stock ever again on either side. Just enjoy watching it without any feeling one way or the other
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Post by esstan2001 on Oct 17, 2016 20:17:19 GMT -5
There are certainly valid reasons for shareholders getting 'spooked'. But there is also every reason to believe that in this environment the shorts would ply their wares in parallel to magnify the effect. That is in their best interest. Exactly. I'd think about shorting it! I don't see it going up, why would it? The only thing I see that would make it go up is a buyout - but I think we are past that. Crazy to short something with confidence after losing $65,000? I don't think so. But then again, I'm not touching this stock ever again on either side. Just enjoy watching it without any feeling one way or the other So then you are fully discounting any possibility of: -RLS milestone payment -Inhaled epi partner deal -ROW Afrezza partnership -Additional capital infusions from any financing deals OK then. You've made clear your stance.
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Post by mnkdnewb on Oct 18, 2016 7:41:38 GMT -5
Exactly. I'd think about shorting it! I don't see it going up, why would it? The only thing I see that would make it go up is a buyout - but I think we are past that. Crazy to short something with confidence after losing $65,000? I don't think so. But then again, I'm not touching this stock ever again on either side. Just enjoy watching it without any feeling one way or the other So then you are fully discounting any possibility of: -RLS milestone payment -Inhaled epi partner deal -ROW Afrezza partnership -Additional capital infusions from any financing deals OK then. You've made clear your stance. No, I just don't think a milestone payment of $5,000,000 - $25,000,000 (which is where I think it will be) is enough of a runway to increase scripts enough to get to break even. Epi partner? Not anytime soon and without afrezza being successful, if they do get a deal it won't include much upfront cash. Are you dumping your capital into the company right now? Look, afrezza seems good but it costs us $10,000,000 a month right now. IMO, any financing deal is going to be incredibly painful but necessary to keep the lights on. And until afrezza starts selling, it will continue to happen.
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Post by rodell on Oct 18, 2016 8:12:40 GMT -5
So, we hang on for now and wait for the Ship of State to make its long turn back the other way. It’s hard when the SP is under such assault as it is again today, but we will prevail. This is a war we’re in and Winston Churchill said it best: "I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat.” I for one have tightened my chin strap and remain resolute. Aloha. So you think that this is all short selling? No one is getting spooked and selling their shares? Someone was: www.institutionalinvestorsalpha.com/Article/3593817/Philanthropy/Tourbillons-Big-Short-Pays-Off-in-Q3.html
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Post by mnkdnewb on Oct 18, 2016 8:25:49 GMT -5
RSI is at 21. I'm going with one more down day today then a technical 5% - 15% up day or two, then back down. IMO
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Post by esstan2001 on Oct 18, 2016 8:44:01 GMT -5
So then you are fully discounting any possibility of: -RLS milestone payment -Inhaled epi partner deal -ROW Afrezza partnership -Additional capital infusions from any financing deals OK then. You've made clear your stance. No, I just don't think a milestone payment of $5,000,000 - $25,000,000 (which is where I think it will be) is enough of a runway to increase scripts enough to get to break even. Epi partner? Not anytime soon and without afrezza being successful, if they do get a deal it won't include much upfront cash. Are you dumping your capital into the company right now? Look, afrezza seems good but it costs us $10,000,000 a month right now. IMO, any financing deal is going to be incredibly painful but necessary to keep the lights on. And until afrezza starts selling, it will continue to happen. Really can not disagree with what you say, but glass half full, some combo of 2-3 of the above can buy them time to get results on scripts- they are actively trying to turn endos and this obviously takes time. Yes it is a race to beat the clock, and time waits for no one; But this game is not decided yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 9:32:46 GMT -5
So you think that this is all short selling? No one is getting spooked and selling their shares? It seems like the daily volume is too low for wholesale capitulation. What exactly is wholesale capitulation?
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Post by centralcoastinvestor on Oct 18, 2016 9:48:20 GMT -5
It seems like the daily volume is too low for wholesale capitulation. What exactly is wholesale capitulation? This is where most hardened longs say I'm done along with most everyone else. Trading volume would be 100,000,000 plus on a single day and share price drops to 10 cents. IMHO
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Post by mockingjay on Oct 18, 2016 10:22:44 GMT -5
the daily volume is low or not , it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, we have no buyers at this price .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 10:28:41 GMT -5
What exactly is wholesale capitulation? This is where most hardened longs say I'm done along with most everyone else. Trading volume would be 100,000,000 plus on a single day and share price drops to 10 cents. IMHO I have no doubt retail will go down with the ship but I think you are seeing a slow drip from hands with larger amounts of shares. IMO Its foolish to think this is just short selling and people are not closing their position. Don't let the conspiracy theories cloud your judgment. More sellers then buyers. Its that simple
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Post by mnkdnewb on Oct 20, 2016 11:16:42 GMT -5
RSI is at 21. I'm going with one more down day today then a technical 5% - 15% up day or two, then back down. IMO
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Post by mnkdnewb on Oct 20, 2016 11:41:02 GMT -5
RSI is at 21. I'm going with one more down day today then a technical 5% - 15% up day or two, then back down. IMO IMHO this is when you sell and buy back 25% more shares in a week or two for the same $$.
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