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Post by liane on Oct 3, 2016 11:25:47 GMT -5
I would doubt that a doctor would accept results of a spirometry test done at a health fair. And you would be wrong. |
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Post by gonetotown on Oct 3, 2016 11:28:20 GMT -5
I would doubt that a doctor would accept results of a spirometry test done at a health fair. I don't know. I am not a Dr so I cant say for sure. I am sure disclosures come with the results that would put blame on MNKD shoulders vs the Dr if something ended up happening to patients with lung problems. No, the doc makes the final decision. He/she is the one who gets the blame for trusting the results. |
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Post by gamblerjag on Oct 3, 2016 11:44:18 GMT -5
Liane, let him/her have it.  I guess it's good some of you don't have people on ignore to refute their b.s. I personally don't have the patience! Think I'm catching up with YMB ignored posters. Ok .. I 'm exaggerating! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 12:02:48 GMT -5
I don't know. I am not a Dr so I cant say for sure. I am sure disclosures come with the results that would put blame on MNKD shoulders vs the Dr if something ended up happening to patients with lung problems. No, the doc makes the final decision. He/she is the one who gets the blame for trusting the results. Unless you are a Dr I don't think either of us know if we are right or wrong. |
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Post by sportsrancho on Oct 3, 2016 12:08:58 GMT -5
Tom bought a spirometer and did the kids breath test himself:-)
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Post by peppy on Oct 3, 2016 12:37:43 GMT -5
It looked to me the teams sent out to set up and work afrezza tables at these walks did a fine job making it's presence known.
Purple ballons.
Sla had to tell me this was olfie. I think he is holding a dreamboat. The teams seem to be working on it. 
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 12:38:33 GMT -5
Tom bought a spirometer and did the kids breath test himself:-) hopefully (!) gonetotown approves of this  |
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Post by sla55 on Oct 3, 2016 12:41:52 GMT -5
It looked to me the teams sent out to set up and work afrezza tables at these walks did a fine job making it's presence known.
Purple ballons.
Sla had to tell me this was olfie. I think he is holding a dreamboat. The teams seem to be working on it.
Olaf Peppy, not Olfie.  |
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Post by liane on Oct 3, 2016 12:45:39 GMT -5
I would not have known who Olaf is, but it doesn't matter. So long as the kids know who he is. Kid sees Olaf, drags parent over to MNKD table. MNKD sales rep has some quality one-on-one time with parent while kid is happy being entertained. Perfect!
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Post by mnholdem on Oct 3, 2016 13:33:07 GMT -5
Tom bought a spirometer and did the kids breath test himself:-) You sure that wasn't a Breathalyzer? It's Temecula you're talking about and not St. Louis, right? 
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Post by gonetotown on Oct 3, 2016 22:12:04 GMT -5
No, the doc makes the final decision. He/she is the one who gets the blame for trusting the results. Unless you are a Dr I don't think either of us know if we are right or wrong. Just ask yourself who you would sue if you suffered some lung ailment in consequence of an incorrect or misinterpreted lung test -- the guy at the health fair who did the test or your doctor who took the test at face value and went ahead and prescribed the drug. |
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Post by liane on Oct 4, 2016 4:36:48 GMT -5
gonetotown, You are way out of line and spreading FUD. You are not a doctor, and know not of what you speak. Spirometry is a very simple test and can be administered by almost anyone with very minimal training. The devices now are inexpensive and reliable. Health fairs are common, and the variety of tests performed at them are acceptable to physicians. There is absolutely no reason for an expensive pulmonologist visit. Consider this fair warning.
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Post by compound26 on Oct 4, 2016 9:26:12 GMT -5
www.tudiabetes.org/forum/t/afrezza-and-travelling/56452/17?u=charles5gonetotown 2d Duck_Fiabetes: The most freedom from Diabetes I have ever experinced in 33 years as a T1. How often does the CCO of Mannkind buy you lunch:Sam19 2d Do you have any legitimate or even well intentioned reason to be posting on this forum?
The CCO of mannkind does outreach with actual users who've shared great success stories. He personally joined this forum to address a concern and issue I was having getting an rx filled and followed up on it several times to ensure it was straightened out, personally. I'd be more than thrilled to take him out to lunch. I'm a bit jealous. www.tudiabetes.org/forum/t/afrezza-as-a-correction-bolus/56490/22?u=charles5Sam19 9h Jen: I'm still very curious to know whether you have any actual experience living with diabetes.
gonetotown and if not, what are you doing here?
LADA_lady 8h Do we have an Im-poster?
A poster who is assuming the identity of someone with diabetes?
Hmmm . . .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 10:02:11 GMT -5
gonetotown , You are way out of line and spreading FUD. You are not a doctor, and know not of what you speak. Spirometry is a very simple test and can be administered by almost anyone with very minimal training. The devices now are inexpensive and reliable. Health fairs are common, and the variety of tests performed at them are acceptable to physicians. There is absolutely no reason for an expensive pulmonologist visit. Consider this fair warning. At the 2015 ASM in Danbury, Al had brought with him an FEV 1 meter he purchased at Ralph's (which is part of Kroger). The product was / is made by microlife and his point of bringing it I believe was to show how readily such products were and as a consumer purchased item, simple to use. Here is the Microlife product: www.amazon.com/Microlife-Peak-Meter-Spirometry-White/dp/B000BH8TUAWhile the above link shows it at $43.95 in bulk, obviously it would be much less. At one point I had thought that there was discussion about including one of these with every sample. Not inexpensive but a way to ease things along. Unfortunately, MNKD cannot give these to docs for legal reasons / anti-kickback but I believe the device can be used across multiple patients. Doc would just have to record data and test takes all of 30 seconds start to finish with actual airway evacuation of a second. Now potentially, here is a solution that could be attached to every sample box - feel free someone to send to Mike C. www.walgreens.com/store/c/omron-peak-flow-meter-adult-or-pediatric-model-pf-9940/ID=prod6145605-product |
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Post by od on Oct 4, 2016 10:22:47 GMT -5
gonetotown , You are way out of line and spreading FUD. You are not a doctor, and know not of what you speak. Spirometry is a very simple test and can be administered by almost anyone with very minimal training. The devices now are inexpensive and reliable. Health fairs are common, and the variety of tests performed at them are acceptable to physicians. There is absolutely no reason for an expensive pulmonologist visit. Consider this fair warning. At the 2015 ASM in Danbury, Al had brought with him an FEV 1 meter he purchased at Ralph's (which is part of Kroger). The product was / is made by microlife and his point of bringing it I believe was to show how readily such products were and as a consumer purchased item, simple to use. Here is the Microlife product: www.amazon.com/Microlife-Peak-Meter-Spirometry-White/dp/B000BH8TUAWhile the above link shows it at $43.95 in bulk, obviously it would be much less. At one point I had thought that there was discussion about including one of these with every sample. Not inexpensive but a way to ease things along. Unfortunately, MNKD cannot give these to docs for legal reasons / anti-kickback but I believe the device can be used across multiple patients. Doc would just have to record data and test takes all of 30 seconds start to finish with actual airway evacuation of a second. Now potentially, here is a solution that could be attached to every sample box - feel free someone to send to Mike C. www.walgreens.com/store/c/omron-peak-flow-meter-adult-or-pediatric-model-pf-9940/ID=prod6145605-productScotta, This is a peak flow meter - it does not provide necessary FEV values. |
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I guess it's good some of you don't have people on ignore to refute their b.s. I personally don't have the patience! Think I'm catching up with YMB ignored posters. Ok .. I 'm exaggerating!
