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Post by peppy on Dec 7, 2016 20:02:47 GMT -5
And all this time I thought we were just trying to sell a product that helps diabetics. ;-) Last January, MNKD entered an business agreement with RLS, with an API that says it intents to use plant extracts.
www.screencast.com/t/QN1AzQQT
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Post by falconquest on Dec 7, 2016 20:24:07 GMT -5
And all this time I thought we were just trying to sell a product that helps diabetics. ;-) Last January, MNKD entered an business agreement with RLS, with an API that says it intents to use plant extracts.
www.screencast.com/t/QN1AzQQT
Yeah, so is that what you're hanging your hat on instead of our core product? So I waited over ten years and lost over $200K so I could invest in a pot plant? Really?
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Post by babaoriley on Dec 7, 2016 20:46:57 GMT -5
Although I'm not certain, the states were likely advised that the Feds would not take action against growers and users within any state the legalized the cultivation and use of marijuana. But that can change based on who is in power. When I was in law school, one of my very, very pompous classmates asked our torts teacher (who was insulted when called the greatest mind in the Western Hemisphere as the compliment left out half the world! No shit!) what the difference was between "non-feasance," "mis-feasance," and "malfeasance." The equally pompous law professor (perhaps more defensibly so than the student), thought, made a contorted face and replied, "sometimes, Mr."Jones," I think you take this all too seriously." Much laughter ensued. Peppy, you're taking the above too seriously.
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Post by peppy on Dec 7, 2016 21:31:16 GMT -5
Yeah, so is that what you're hanging your hat on instead of our core product? So I waited over ten years and lost over $200K so I could invest in a pot plant? Really? I know, falcon. Difficult to tolerate. You know I am a core product advocate.
I was just listening to Bruce Lipton. He taught physicians for 20 years. What a scientist. Here is what he said that is one of the many interesting things he said. People are not particles, they are waves. Waves become in tangled with each other.
My wave must be irritating your wave. I get it.
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Post by letitride on Dec 7, 2016 21:44:58 GMT -5
Yeah, so is that what you're hanging your hat on instead of our core product? So I waited over ten years and lost over $200K so I could invest in a pot plant? Really? I know, falcon. Difficult to tolerate. You know I am a core product advocate.
I was just listening to Bruce Lipton. He taught physicians for 20 years. What a scientist. Here is what he said that is one of the many interesting things he said. People are not particles, they are waves. Waves become in tangled with each other.
My wave must be irritating your wave. I get it.
Better yet just surfing the waves.
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Post by mnholdem on Dec 7, 2016 22:34:57 GMT -5
I simply cannot resist, peppy. Here is the Guinness World Record Fan Wave recorded at Bristol Motor Speedway:
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Post by mnkdfann on Dec 7, 2016 23:29:25 GMT -5
Although I'm not certain, the states were likely advised that the Feds would not take action against growers and users within any state the legalized the cultivation and use of marijuana. But that can change based on who is in power. My understanding is that in some states marijuana use was legalized through citizen-driven ballot initiatives, and in some cases this means that the approved initiative was legalized without the state legislature ever having to deal with / vote on it. State ballot initiatives and legislative referrals "consist of newly drafted legislation submitted directly to a popular vote as an alternative to adoption by a legislature". For example, the legislature in Washington adjourned in 2012 without considering Washington Initiative 502, but it went to a ballot later that year and was approved by the citizenry directly. That's not the only example where the citizenry approved some level of marijuana legalization without the legislature doing so, or even supporting it in principle. So just because marijuana use was approved in a particular state does not mean that the corresponding state government was ever necessarily on board with it. Indeed, the state government may have ideologically opposed it and been totally on-side with the federal position.
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Post by falconquest on Dec 8, 2016 5:48:19 GMT -5
Yeah, so is that what you're hanging your hat on instead of our core product? So I waited over ten years and lost over $200K so I could invest in a pot plant? Really? I know, falcon. Difficult to tolerate. You know I am a core product advocate.
I was just listening to Bruce Lipton. He taught physicians for 20 years. What a scientist. Here is what he said that is one of the many interesting things he said. People are not particles, they are waves. Waves become in tangled with each other.
My wave must be irritating your wave. I get it.
I wouldn't characterize it that way Peppy. I had been optimistic for years and as you know, success with Mannkind has always just been around the corner, but I have grown weary of getting beat down time after time. We have the greatest insulin product ever developed and instead of being able to rely on that, we have to look at a milestone from a licensed deal somewhere. Now, I welcome the income but that certainly should not be our focus and as an investor I certainly don't want to rely on what some other company develops and whether that product gets approved. Especially one that is vulnerable to which way the current political wind is blowing. So I really have no issues with anyone here and I appreciate the different insights everyone brings I have just moved from optimism to a position where I feel it's time for Mannkind to put up or shut up. Mannkind needs to sell product not a license or a piece of property to get by the next quarter.
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Post by rockstarrick on Dec 8, 2016 8:14:13 GMT -5
I know, falcon. Difficult to tolerate. You know I am a core product advocate.
I was just listening to Bruce Lipton. He taught physicians for 20 years. What a scientist. Here is what he said that is one of the many interesting things he said. People are not particles, they are waves. Waves become in tangled with each other.
My wave must be irritating your wave. I get it.
I wouldn't characterize it that way Peppy. I had been optimistic for years and as you know, success with Mannkind has always just been around the corner, but I have grown weary of getting beat down time after time. We have the greatest insulin product ever developed and instead of being able to rely on thawt, we have to look at a milestone from a licensed deal somewhere. Now, I welcome the income but that certainly should not be our focus and as an investor I certainly don't want to rely on what some other company develops and whether that product gets approved. Especially one that is vulnerable to which way the current political wind is blowing. So I really have no issues with anyone here and I appreciate the different insights everyone brings I have just moved from optimism to a position where I feel it's time for Mannkind to put up or shut up. Mannkind needs to sell product not a license or a piece of property to get by the next quarter. Until Sanofi ended the agreement less than a year ago, other than manufacturing afrezza, relying on deals with other Companies was the main concept that would keep this Company going. I don't believe we ever considered having to do everything, R&D, clinical trials, regulatory, manufacturing, promo, and marketing, So with that in mind I realize just how young this phase of our Company is. While I agree it's time to sell some product, I don't agree with the success has always been around the corner remark, we are invested in a Company with an FDA approved Drug and Delivery Device, I would classify that as a success. The Mountain is high and the River is wide, but against all odds, we're still plugging along. 2015 and the start of 2016 were hard times for Mannkind and its investors, with Sanofi dragging their feet for the entire "soft launch"of 2015 (f-ing liars). then ending the deal just before Al passed away in February 2016, we were holding on by a thread, (think about that Wallstreet). We were to the point where nobody believed we could survive, Analysts stopped covering us not because they wanted to be mean or didn't care, they just didn't think we would survive, now they're coming back. I would also classify that as a small success. you get my point, I could write for hours, but it's getting daylight and I have an Elk to hunt, but I am really amazed how Matt, Mike and the entire Mannkind team have kept this moving along, and I don't think I am alone. Have a Great Day !!
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Post by audiomr on Dec 10, 2016 12:36:12 GMT -5
When I tried to understand this at some level, what the video said, The UNITED STATES in capital letters is a corporation. The USA incorporated after the first bankruptcy in 1933. This is a legal nomenclature. The video also said the UNITED STATES became or is the district of Columbia. Trying to learn from this and trying to see it through..... Frankly way to difficult for my poor understanding. I was trying to search for the legal reason the States thought they could grow and sell Marijuana. It seems only the government is legally able to grow marijuana in/at Mississippi, university of Mississippi.
I know we all think we know how it works. we were born here, schooled here. The law though, the law is different. Making things more difficult after the bankruptcy admiralty, law became involved was the story told, and England at some level. Consider, just consider, we have ALL have been dumbed down. Marijuana for sale in states under BUSH not touched. Just sayin. I do not know. I think there may be a chance that we were schooled incorrectly.' Baba, and legals, help... I am drowning.
(Interesting that the USA became a military industrial complex and England are closest alliance.)
The video sounds a little out there. The United States is not and never has been a corporation. There was no bankruptcy. And the District of Columbia is (a tiny) part of the United States, not the entirety of the United States. I don't think there are any states that grow marijuana for sale (maybe some state universities that do research). Some have passed laws that allow cultivation and sale by businesses within them, typically for medicinal purposes only though increasingly for recreational use as well. U.S. law gives states an explicit pass on medicinal marijuana, so long as the state itself permits it, but not on recreational marijuana. Beyond that, states sometimes pass laws that are clearly in violation of federal law or the Constitution, often just as political theater, which then get smacked down in court. State legislatures are all too frequently circuses.
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Post by peppy on Dec 10, 2016 17:37:53 GMT -5
When I tried to understand this at some level, what the video said, The UNITED STATES in capital letters is a corporation. The USA incorporated after the first bankruptcy in 1933. This is a legal nomenclature. The video also said the UNITED STATES became or is the district of Columbia. Trying to learn from this and trying to see it through..... Frankly way to difficult for my poor understanding. I was trying to search for the legal reason the States thought they could grow and sell Marijuana. It seems only the government is legally able to grow marijuana in/at Mississippi, university of Mississippi.
I know we all think we know how it works. we were born here, schooled here. The law though, the law is different. Making things more difficult after the bankruptcy admiralty, law became involved was the story told, and England at some level. Consider, just consider, we have ALL have been dumbed down. Marijuana for sale in states under BUSH not touched. Just sayin. I do not know. I think there may be a chance that we were schooled incorrectly.' Baba, and legals, help... I am drowning.
(Interesting that the USA became a military industrial complex and England are closest alliance.)
The video sounds a little out there. The United States is not and never has been a corporation. There was no bankruptcy. And the District of Columbia is (a tiny) part of the United States, not the entirety of the United States. I don't think there are any states that grow marijuana for sale (maybe some state universities that do research). Some have passed laws that allow cultivation and sale by businesses within them, typically for medicinal purposes only though increasingly for recreational use as well. U.S. law gives states an explicit pass on medicinal marijuana, so long as the state itself permits it, but not on recreational marijuana. Beyond that, states sometimes pass laws that are clearly in violation of federal law or the Constitution, often just as political theater, which then get smacked down in court. State legislatures are all too frequently circuses. Yes, it is confusing, I will never figure it out. I will stop.
www.thecannabist.co/2014/05/06/u-s-government-grow-1430-pounds-weed-dea-registered-research/11281/
United States[edit] Main article: Local government in the United States In the United States, such municipal corporations are established by charters that are granted either directly by a state legislature by means of local legislation, or indirectly under a general municipal corporation law, usually after the proposed charter has passed a referendum vote of the affected population.
I will stop now as it is off topic.
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Post by thekindaguyiyam on Dec 10, 2016 17:46:54 GMT -5
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Post by mango on Dec 15, 2016 21:34:19 GMT -5
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Post by mnkdfann on Dec 15, 2016 21:50:56 GMT -5
For anyone who missed the Task Force report earlier this week, here is the latest Canadian news: www.cbc.ca/news/politics/marijuana-legalization-pot-task-force-1.3893876"Pot task force recommends legal cannabis sales be limited to users 18 and over - Canadian government has promised to table legislation legalizing cannabis in spring 2017" Y'all get on my good side, I may consider sending you some home made brownies down the road.
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Post by majorwood on Sept 25, 2017 16:32:08 GMT -5
It's alive!
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