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Post by peppy on Mar 4, 2018 21:14:10 GMT -5
Peppy, OK I just timed it. For lunch I had a yogurt with 15 grams of protein and oatmeal mixed in, blueberries, almonds and whip cream on top. It took me eight minutes to eat it. Probably about as long as it takes manmade to eat a fajita pita:-) This dosing thing really drives me crazy... that there is such a wide range of times with the studies? Wait a minute......oatmeal (check), blueberries (check), almonds (check), WHIPPED CREAM? So do the healthy ingredients offset the whipped cream? (LOL) Btw, I eat yogurt with granola as a mid morning snack at work every day (w/o whipped cream) . liquid vs solid. % sugars heh. the more % solids the longer for it to hit the blood stream? dosing, so I think Kool-aide, orange juice, apple juice, pineapple juice, sugar sweeten soda, Hersey's chocolate bare hits the blood stream fast? I think bread has to churn in the gastric juices and they are in the stomach @ 20 mins before moving on? potatoes I think would take more time to break down and hit the blood stream as bread. Meat, meat has to church in the stomach, the protein sent to the liver from the blood stream somewhere down the track. The fat directed by the liver made into glucose, cleaved; or sent fat cells. Greens salads, more bulk, less glucose plus roughage. Minerals. vitamins. yes, pretty variable.
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Post by brotherm1 on Mar 4, 2018 21:20:30 GMT -5
along those lines, how well a person masticates I would think would be a variable.
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Post by brotherm1 on Mar 4, 2018 21:36:56 GMT -5
metabolism, amount of digestive enzymes.... Who can name all the variables?
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Post by peppy on Mar 4, 2018 21:40:21 GMT -5
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Mar 4, 2018 21:44:50 GMT -5
metabolism, amount of digestive enzymes.... Who can name all the variables? the meds, ie., proton pump inhibitors they really slow down the breakdown of the foods...do you think they check for those that use Nexium, Prilosec, Protonix or others in the category in the studies (I am sure they ask what other meds you're on but do they categorize them regarding the differences in reaction times and need for follow up dosings etc.
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Mar 4, 2018 21:54:02 GMT -5
It doesn't exclude those with GERD from what I read quickly....or take into consideration how far along one may be with gastroparesis if they haven't been diagnosed yet. When you think about all the variables it kind of makes you laugh that they try and set any regimen, it has to be individualized and the patient is the only one that can really determine when and how much to take at any given time....thus the added safety factor of Afrezza (lower risk of hypo) along with an instant read type of monitor is the ultimate "custom" treatment for each T2 situation that is eligible.
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Post by mytakeonit on Mar 4, 2018 22:16:08 GMT -5
Wow ... the dinner that I had planned in Hawaii would take 2 to 3 hours. Don't know how I could cut it down to 11 minutes.
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Post by mytakeonit on Mar 4, 2018 22:24:18 GMT -5
Reading the 60 “ Dead Sea Scrolls”, was perhaps a dosing formula recently discovered ? Mike and the new Dr. mentioned these studies recently. Something’s up and perhaps it’s insight or clinical stats for dosing variables and formulas? PS Sports, I’m a Sunday brunch aficionado. What do they have and how much does it cost? Holiday Inn, Grantville PA, $25 with tip: prime rib, ham, salmon or always another broiled fish, smoked salmon, stuffed poultry, crab imperial, salmon, shrimp, different potatos, cheeses, pasta, different salads, all types breakfast food, mixed fruit, deserts such as different pies and cakes and almost always carrot cake, different cooked vegetables, great coffee.... (had some mozzarella brussel sprouts today, or maybe they were parmesan) brother - put a few grand on the table and those brunches are free !!!
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Post by mytakeonit on Mar 5, 2018 16:02:07 GMT -5
brother - I failed to mention that putting a few grand on the table ... doesn't mean that you HAVE TO LOSE it.
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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Mar 5, 2018 16:08:35 GMT -5
On the bright side, at least i didn't invest in them I think opening clinics would be a better use of Mike's new sales guys than waiting 6 months to see an endo who will toss the afrezza info in the trash. In addition to the libre and office visit they can direct supply the afrezza and bill them for cloud monitoring using www2.libreview.com, glooko.com or some other service. Say, And why would that be different to VDex ?You just read that this business is not doing stellar and still you go the same path. Why? Investing more into a mediocre market does not make it a better one.
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Post by seanismorris on Mar 5, 2018 16:23:41 GMT -5
I think opening clinics would be a better use of Mike's new sales guys than waiting 6 months to see an endo who will toss the afrezza info in the trash. In addition to the libre and office visit they can direct supply the afrezza and bill them for cloud monitoring using www2.libreview.com, glooko.com or some other service. Say, And why would that be different to VDex ?You just read that this business is not doing stellar and still you go the same path. Why? Investing more into a mediocre market does not make it a better one. VDex has a failed business model. In the beginning they sounded interesting, and the idea seemed sound. But, they had a plan of aggressively opening new locations. Many many months have gone by, and (as far as I know) they never opened a #2. I don’t know why anyone would invest (time or money) in VDex. The is something fundamentally wrong with the VDex model otherwise anyone (Banks, etc.) after reading their business plan, would be throwing money at them. Afrezza has perform miserably to date... you don’t see them have issues raising capital.
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Mar 5, 2018 16:26:16 GMT -5
seanismorris... there are three in the Los Angeles area. Can't comment on their financial success or lack thereof.
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Post by LosingMyBullishness on Mar 5, 2018 16:38:28 GMT -5
seanismorris... there are three in the Los Angeles area. Can't comment on their financial success or lack thereof. Why is it that they are always closed when someone if the board drops by? Why do they still share an office with some other small business? Their representatives told the board that they found the secret sauce to help their patients stay in range. So why is this not spreading like wildfire? Or is the truth quite simple: Most of the T2 diabetics are too stubborn/dumb/misinformed/undisziplined to help themselves and to be helped?
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Post by celo on Mar 5, 2018 16:43:41 GMT -5
Say, And why would that be different to VDex ?You just read that this business is not doing stellar and still you go the same path. Why? Investing more into a mediocre market does not make it a better one. VDex has a failed business model. In the beginning they sounded interesting, and the idea seemed sound. But, they had a plan of aggressively opening new locations. Many many months have gone by, and (as far as I know) they never opened a #2. I don’t know why anyone would invest (time or money) in VDex. The is something fundamentally wrong with the VDex model otherwise anyone (Banks, etc.) after reading their business plan, would be throwing money at them. Afrezza has perform miserably to date... you don’t see them have issues raising capital. Failed? Why do they keep opening new clinics? Three in LA and one new one in Albuquerque. Failure would be closing clinics and bankruptcy. You lose control of your business when you raise money through a third party, sometimes. Control of your idea, how fast you want to expand. VDEX is private, I have no idea how good, bad or otherwise they are doing.
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Post by peppy on Mar 5, 2018 16:46:24 GMT -5
I think opening clinics would be a better use of Mike's new sales guys than waiting 6 months to see an endo who will toss the afrezza info in the trash. In addition to the libre and office visit they can direct supply the afrezza and bill them for cloud monitoring using www2.libreview.com, glooko.com or some other service. Say, And why would that be different to VDex ?You just read that this business is not doing stellar and still you go the same path. Why? Investing more into a mediocre market does not make it a better one. TELEDOC.
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