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Post by mnkdnewb on Feb 16, 2017 20:15:01 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong, but I took it to mean that having that few of shares was what made twib light years ahead... meaning the losses were much less significant. The fact that barboriley liked your comment I would say you are correct. I would think I'm sitting on the low end of shareholders with a few more than 5000 shares. My hedge is the shares I trade around my core, not short, just not completely long, I hope that doesn't mean I'm bi-sexual or something. 😳 Lol |
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Feb 18, 2017 13:27:25 GMT -5
Are only hope is a lot of new scripts on March 3. IMO In the end the short term fluctuations do not matter. If Afrezza sells ultimately, we got a winner, and the PPS will take care of itself (for the longs). If it does not sell, then the shorts got a winner, and the PPS will take care of itself (for the shorts). Though the third scenario is that Afrezza ultimately succeeds but there has been a bankruptcy reorg or massive dilution in the meantime such that the PPS doesn't take care of itself for many of us long time shareholders. Am I predicting this... not necessarily, but I'd suspect that we still have some not entirely painless dilution to come. I'm done averaging down until we absolutely, clearly, 100%, without question have turned the corner of "going concern" risk. However long that takes, and whatever happens in the interim, then I might invest more in long term success of Afrezza to offset losses to date. To be optimistic about MNKD stock right now, one has to be optimistic about Afrezza long term AND optimistic about some short term resolution of negative cash flow issue. If it were just a matter of long term Afrezza success I think the share price would have stayed much higher than it is today. |
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Post by mango on Feb 18, 2017 14:07:42 GMT -5
What about the somewhat substantial size of shares held by The Mann Group and a couple others on the TAZE. Could they theoretically sell those shares (or even some of them), and transfer the currency directly to MannKind to use for funding their operations? If not, why (not opinions of why, but the facts surrounding such a scenario). There is a lot of money being held over on the TAZE and I cannot fathom why it would continue to hold when it can be meaningfully used.
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 18, 2017 14:48:34 GMT -5
What about the somewhat substantial size of shares held by The Mann Group and a couple others on the TAZE. Could they theoretically sell those shares (or even some of them), and transfer the currency directly to MannKind to use for funding their operations? If not, why (not opinions of why, but the facts surrounding such a scenario). There is a lot of money being held over on the TAZE and I cannot fathom why it would continue to hold when it can be meaningfully used. Money in the TASE is tracker funds following the TASE and TASE indices. As long as MNKD is listed on the TASE they will hold but I would be extremely surprised if there was much discretionary money involved as anyone wanting MNKD stock would have bought on NASDAQ prior to the TASE listing. What is the benefit to the AMF to selling stock in exchange for loans? Liquidating a meaningful part of their holding would tank the share price which would damage their remaining holding. This is apart from the question of whether it is in the interest of the AMF to loan money to Mannkind (it would have to be unsecured). They have a legal duty to protect the AMF's charitable work and the other Mann companies as well. |
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Post by mango on Feb 18, 2017 16:14:48 GMT -5
What about the somewhat substantial size of shares held by The Mann Group and a couple others on the TAZE. Could they theoretically sell those shares (or even some of them), and transfer the currency directly to MannKind to use for funding their operations? If not, why (not opinions of why, but the facts surrounding such a scenario). There is a lot of money being held over on the TAZE and I cannot fathom why it would continue to hold when it can be meaningfully used. Money in the TASE is tracker funds following the TASE and TASE indices. As long as MNKD is listed on the TASE they will hold but I would be extremely surprised if there was much discretionary money involved as anyone wanting MNKD stock would have bought on NASDAQ prior to the TASE listing. What is the benefit to the AMF to selling stock in exchange for loans? Liquidating a meaningful part of their holding would tank the share price which would damage their remaining holding. This is apart from the question of whether it is in the interest of the AMF to loan money to Mannkind (it would have to be unsecured). They have a legal duty to protect the AMF's charitable work and the other Mann companies as well. How do these two holdings correlate to helping MannKind on the Nasdaq exchange and/or in general? If these two sold, how would it directly effect MannKind on the Nasdaq exchange or effect them in general? How do these two holdings benefit MannKind currently, if at all? These are serious questions because I simply do not understand. Also, the only companies currently within the Mann family are: 1. MannKind 2. Second Sight 3. Bioness 4. perQflo 5. IncuMed MannKind on the TASE קבוצת מאן(ז) (The Mann Group) —Balance Date: 21/03/2016 —Balance: 89,750,000 —Percent Capital: 18.67% —Voting Percent: 18.67% —Market Capital (NIS millions): 183.80 עזבון מאן(ז) Bequest Mann (M) —Balance Date: 21/03/2016 —Balance: 63,473,771 —Percent Capital: 13.21% —Voting Percent: 13.21% —Market Capital (NIS millions): 130 |
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 18, 2017 19:09:28 GMT -5
Money in the TASE is tracker funds following the TASE and TASE indices. As long as MNKD is listed on the TASE they will hold but I would be extremely surprised if there was much discretionary money involved as anyone wanting MNKD stock would have bought on NASDAQ prior to the TASE listing. What is the benefit to the AMF to selling stock in exchange for loans? Liquidating a meaningful part of their holding would tank the share price which would damage their remaining holding. This is apart from the question of whether it is in the interest of the AMF to loan money to Mannkind (it would have to be unsecured). They have a legal duty to protect the AMF's charitable work and the other Mann companies as well. How do these two holdings correlate to helping MannKind on the Nasdaq exchange and/or in general? If these two sold, how would it directly effect MannKind on the Nasdaq exchange or effect them in general? How do these two holdings benefit MannKind currently, if at all? These are serious questions because I simply do not understand. I don't think these holdings benefit Mannkind particularly. The funds probably lend stock, I do not know if the AMF does. Potentially it removes some of the shortable stock. If Mannkind delisted from the TASE then as non-discretionary sellers the trackers would have to dump their holdings immediately at market which would be bad because it's $50M (actually less since the value has dropped since listing) of stock. The market would have real difficulty absorbing that volume and the price would plummet. The AMF could sell with a lot less disruption as evidenced by the drop in their holdings because as discretionary sellers they could spread it out which would maximize the value. |
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