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Post by esstan2001 on Mar 1, 2017 18:08:54 GMT -5
DBC, You are much more rational than you think... all you have to do is follow those instincts that say that the odds of yet another consecutive black swan event are just SSSSOOOOO LLLOOOWWWW !!!! (Please just ignore the Probability101 independent coin toss experiment example when here on MNKD Proboards)
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Post by surplusvalue on Mar 1, 2017 18:09:38 GMT -5
Both you, Alethea and others think that they will dilute immediately. I was of that opinion when the RS issue was first initiated but not now. If an RS comes and when it comes, I dont think they will dilute right away. The RS will provide enough opportunity to have the SP hammered and hence immediate dilution would be more counterproductive with the risk of bringing the sp, with more hammering, down to the level that the RS was trying to get us out of in the first place. I am curious about how much it will drop. The R/S is a heavily telegraphed move and I am wondering if it is already substantially priced in.If I was them I would do the dilution almost immediately because the price will never be higher until there are serious sales, and those are probably beyond the runway. Drop depends on the RS ratio which we can guess even though many are sure it will be, if it happens, 1 for 10 (I'm not so sure it will be). Less than 1 for ten and they are not likely using the RS to assist with dilution. If this were another stock I might agree with you about the RS being baked in but I beg to differ with more than 100 million short on MNKD's back and not also knowing what the ratio will be.
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Post by promann on Mar 1, 2017 18:15:50 GMT -5
For the record. I can't believe all the doom and gloom on this board I think it's a bunch of hog wash, baloney... Everyone just do whatever you think best but just don't fall for the doom and gloom many posters are spreading. MNKD is in a new never seen before position and in my opinion great things are coming.. As far as the reverse split if it happens and I mean a big IF it happens it will be at a time when great things are in the pipe so I wouldn't count on the stock price going down to far, there are a lot of smart people out there that know a deal when they see it and will buy up all they can. We are at a time where the rubber meets the road either we go the distance or we just spin are tires and go no where. My bet is a 10-20 times banger. Call me a pumper I don't care but I know there are many here spreading fud and I think you are all getting very scared of what's to come.. Good luck. I've said my peace.
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Post by falconquest on Mar 1, 2017 18:17:42 GMT -5
If you envy them then you are not one of us. Well they (shorts) were certainly a lot smarter than we were, weren't they? They made money and we didn't. I invest to make money I don't care about being one of anything. If a retail investor on this board recouped some of their losses I would be happy for them regardless of how they accomplished it. You take the risk and if you make money then good on ya!
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Post by esstan2001 on Mar 1, 2017 18:19:38 GMT -5
I like the wishes for Good Luck. I'll take all the Good Luck I can get
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Post by falconquest on Mar 1, 2017 18:21:05 GMT -5
For the record. I can't believe all the doom and gloom on this board I think it's a bunch of hog wash, baloney... Everyone just do whatever you think best but just don't fall for the doom and gloom many posters are spreading. MNKD is in a new never seen before position and in my opinion great things are coming.. As far as the reverse split if it happens and I mean a big IF it happens it will be at a time when great things are in the pipe so I wouldn't count on the stock price going down to far, there are a lot of smart people out there that know a deal when they see it and will buy up all they can. We are at a time where the rubber meets the road either we go the distance or we just spin are tires and go no where. My bet is a 10-20 times banger. Call me a pumper I don't care but I know there are many here spreading fud and I think you are all getting very scared of what's to come.. Good luck. I've said my peace. Unfortunately when you look at the track record..............enough said. (that's my piece)
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Post by surplusvalue on Mar 1, 2017 18:22:21 GMT -5
DBC, You are much more rational than you think... all you have to do is follow those instincts that say that the odds of yet another consecutive black swan event are just SSSSOOOOO LLLOOOWWWW !!!!
(Please just ignore the Probability101 independent coin toss experiment example when here on MNKD Proboards) www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjOqaD5tWB0
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Post by esstan2001 on Mar 1, 2017 18:27:22 GMT -5
DBC, You are much more rational than you think... all you have to do is follow those instincts that say that the odds of yet another consecutive black swan event are just SSSSOOOOO LLLOOOWWWW !!!!
(Please just ignore the Probability101 independent coin toss experiment example when here on MNKD Proboards) www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjOqaD5tWB0I never heard of these chaps... I find them rather funny and I am only half way through the video
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Post by falconquest on Mar 1, 2017 18:49:16 GMT -5
Heads...
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Post by esstan2001 on Mar 1, 2017 18:52:08 GMT -5
hopefully not those of the shareholders on a roll...
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Mar 1, 2017 19:30:55 GMT -5
DBC, You are much more rational than you think... all you have to do is follow those instincts that say that the odds of yet another consecutive black swan event are just SSSSOOOOO LLLOOOWWWW !!!! (Please just ignore the Probability101 independent coin toss experiment example when here on MNKD Proboards) I can actually see the black swans circling, licking their swan lips... like a pack of wolves. i.ytimg.com/vi/rOLw5sN17mg/maxresdefault.jpg
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Post by esstan2001 on Mar 1, 2017 19:38:35 GMT -5
totally cracked me up with that one
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Post by surplusvalue on Mar 1, 2017 22:25:07 GMT -5
I never heard of these chaps... I find them rather funny and I am only half way through the video If you get the chance watch the entire film. It's a brilliant take on Hamlet's "minor" characters and reflects Shakespeare's notion in As You Like It that "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players; They have their exits and their entrances, And one man in his time plays many parts..." among other very astute aspects of human existence both comedic and tragic. The exploratory science is also a treat to watch.
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Post by MnkdWASmyRtrmntPlan on Mar 1, 2017 22:27:17 GMT -5
For the record. I can't believe all the doom and gloom on this board I think it's a bunch of hog wash, baloney... Everyone just do whatever you think best but just don't fall for the doom and gloom many posters are spreading. MNKD is in a new never seen before position and in my opinion great things are coming.. As far as the reverse split if it happens and I mean a big IF it happens it will be at a time when great things are in the pipe so I wouldn't count on the stock price going down to far, there are a lot of smart people out there that know a deal when they see it and will buy up all they can. We are at a time where the rubber meets the road either we go the distance or we just spin are tires and go no where. My bet is a 10-20 times banger. Call me a pumper I don't care but I know there are many here spreading fud and I think you are all getting very scared of what's to come.. Good luck. I've said my peace. I'm right with you, Promann. Stocks go up, and stocks go down. This stock has had way more of it's share of downs. Now, it's time for the up. Jay1ajay1a went to the meeting today and I think that two of his notes were key: 1. The new nurse education program is the way to move ahead. . 2. Matt feels they have the right plan in play to move the company ahead. IMHO, MNKD's worst sales problem is the miserable refill rate. I believe they have learned critical lessons and, hopefully, the new sales team will now be capable of getting customers to stick with it so we can change the renewals trajectory. Once people start learning how great of a product it is, there will be the Giant Leap for Mannkind that we have all been waiting for. One key is that their sales plan has to work FAST!!! But, I don't think it will take too much of an increase in scripts, though, to cause the SP to start taking off. Which will also tremendously help the company financially, both with income, and if they do need to dilute in the second half. Of course, once PWD begin to realize how great Afrezza is, and the word starts to get around, the financial problems will eventually work out. If we have to, we'll get the R/S behind us already. After that, it's all nothing but good news. OK, there may be some more financial hurdles, but I am hoping the company will be in the black in less than two years from now, and we'll be in our rocket-ship after that. Come on, try my glasses on.
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Post by peppy on Mar 1, 2017 22:51:57 GMT -5
well people, Jay came and left again. darn it. we could not appreciate his effort and instead.... questioned it. I wanted to hear his take. Maybe he will forgive us.
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