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Post by boca1girl on Mar 23, 2017 10:37:41 GMT -5
Fidelity increased % paid to loan shares from 10% to 11% on March 22.
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Post by orlon on Mar 24, 2017 13:17:39 GMT -5
What great news for those who continue to lend shares to short sellers who together with the MM's, and big pharmas, continue to undermine Mannkind's continued existence. I say a hearty Well done!
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Post by saxcmann on Mar 24, 2017 14:50:19 GMT -5
What great news for those who continue to lend shares to short sellers who together with the MM's, and big pharmas, continue to undermine Mannkind's continued existence. I say a hearty Well done! Comes down to scripts at this point. Nothing else. Sorry, retailers lending shares have no influence on stock price. |
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Post by factspls88 on Mar 24, 2017 15:09:05 GMT -5
Agree with saxcmann. We have seen this over and over again regarding interest rate changes on loaned shares. It means nothing. Sales and sales alone are going to drive stock price unless of course there is a sale of the company.
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Post by oldfishtowner on Mar 24, 2017 15:14:52 GMT -5
What great news for those who continue to lend shares to short sellers who together with the MM's, and big pharmas, continue to undermine Mannkind's continued existence. I say a hearty Well done! Comes down to scripts at this point. Nothing else. Sorry, retailers lending shares have no influence on stock price. Nonsense. Basic economics says that when you increase supply over demand the price goes down. So lending shares to sell does depress the price more than it would have been without the additional shares to sell and the additional short sales. Not only that but the further depression of price incites more longs to sell. What is true it that the PPS would not necessarily go up without shorts and those lending shares to them. It just might not go down as much. The bottom line is that lending shares is not the reason for the under performance of the stock, but it does make a bad situation worse. |
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Post by seanismorris on Mar 24, 2017 15:27:56 GMT -5
I checked my account today.
It's sad that an investment that was worth as much as an decent house, is now worth about as much as a stick of bubblegum...
MannKind's management is obviously doing a great job. And, is selling Afrezza like hot cakes...
If the Shorts got out of the way, it might be worth 2 sticks of bubblegum.
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Post by mnkdfann on Mar 26, 2017 0:18:37 GMT -5
Comes down to scripts at this point. Nothing else. Sorry, retailers lending shares have no influence on stock price. Nonsense. Basic economics says that when you increase supply over demand the price goes down. So lending shares to sell does depress the price more than it would have been without the additional shares to sell and the additional short sales. Not only that but the further depression of price incites more longs to sell. What is true it that the PPS would not necessarily go up without shorts and those lending shares to them. It just might not go down as much. How does it increase supply over demand? An amazing thing about the market is that for every seller / share sold, there is a buyer / share bought. "Complaints about short sellers usually ring pretty hollow to anyone who has been involved in the market any length of time. The complaints occur because investors want someone to blame for their own bad judgement calls." - Peter Temple www.harriman-house.com/authors/profile/petertemple/1899 |
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Post by slugworth008 on Mar 26, 2017 9:59:04 GMT -5
What great news for those who continue to lend shares to short sellers who together with the MM's, and big pharmas, continue to undermine Mannkind's continued existence. I say a hearty Well done! Regardless of your perspective on this practice - Those who've been lending their shares over the past 3 years are most likely the only MNKD shareholders who've made any money. Sad but most likely true. I should have been trading around a core position from day 1 - Lesson very painfully learned. |
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Mar 27, 2017 15:49:34 GMT -5
What great news for those who continue to lend shares to short sellers who together with the MM's, and big pharmas, continue to undermine Mannkind's continued existence. I say a hearty Well done! Regardless of your perspective on this practice - Those who've been lending their shares over the past 3 years are most likely the only MNKD shareholders who've made any money. Sad but most likely true. I should have been trading around a core position from day 1 - Lesson very painfully learned. Correction... lost a very slightly smaller amount of money. orlon... retail investors mean diddly here. And as for shorts, they would be totally impotent if not for a lack of institutional investor support. If all lent shares were taken back, you'd have a short lived rally and then the erosion would resume and we'd be right back where we are. Smart money is simply not willing to bet on Mannkind at valuations higher than where we are. I do wish I had been smart enough to not lend... because of not having shares to lend. |
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Post by kc on Apr 27, 2017 9:40:55 GMT -5
Just noticed that Fidelity rate on lending is now 31.5% so there is mounting pressure. But today its not worth being in that program. I don't think retail investors move the needle but at this time why even play the game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 10:10:18 GMT -5
when is there next call?
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Post by saxcmann on Apr 27, 2017 11:14:56 GMT -5
Just noticed that Fidelity rate on lending is now 31.5% so there is mounting pressure. But today its not worth being in that program. I don't think retail investors move the needle but at this time why even play the game. Just to confirm 31.5% is lending rate for shorts. So about 20% for retailer loaning shares. |
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Post by boca1girl on Apr 27, 2017 17:21:57 GMT -5
Fidelity was paying 16% to those lending shares as of 04/26/17. It has been going up steadily since the r/s.
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Post by boca1girl on Apr 28, 2017 7:27:48 GMT -5
18.25% as of 4/27.
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Post by dinvestor89 on Apr 28, 2017 8:04:36 GMT -5
You guys are giving them shares to short... of course it "matters"
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