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Post by dreamboatcruise on Sept 6, 2017 12:47:19 GMT -5
Interesting... the poster doesn't seem to support some of their other claims.
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Post by mango on Sept 6, 2017 12:48:28 GMT -5
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Post by mango on Sept 6, 2017 13:08:52 GMT -5
That was from 2008 so I don't know if there is a newer one or not.
But, "With a lesser effect on the surge of plasma insulin" equates to not mimicking the first phase insulin response which means it doesn't restore and maintain glucose homeostasis.
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Post by peppy on Sept 6, 2017 13:16:53 GMT -5
oramed insulin takes two and 1/2 hours to work?
www.oramed.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/ADA-2008-Poster.pdf
notice the sell is 8 units of insulin rather than 230 units of insulin. June 6-10, 2008 Conclusions Pharmacokiinetiics ((PK)) and Pharmacodynamiics ((PD)) off Orall IInsulliin iin Heallthy Subjjects Miriam Kidron, Ph.D, Itamar Raz, M.D. MichaWolfensberger, *Herve Schwob Ph.D *Christian Schruefer Diabetes Unit, Hadassah University Hospital, and Oramed Pharmaceuticals, Jerusalem Israel * Swiss Caps, Kirchberg Switzerland Eight healthy male volunteers (mean age 25 years, BMI 20.1-17.7 kg/m²) participated in this 4-period, cross-over study. During each visit, separated by a 72 to 96 hours washout period, and after an overnight fast, subjects were administered an oral insulin capsule containing 8 mg of insulin combined with varying doses of Oramed’s enhancing agents (formulations). The pharamcokinetic profile of each insulin formulation and its metabolic effects on glucose, insulin and c-peptide were assessed over a five hour period
Conclusion: The results of this study in healthy volunteers were positive and showed that insulin administered by Oramed’s capsules; A) Is absorbed and is biologically active. B) It exhibits unique Pk and PD effects characterized by the delayed onset of action and a prolonged metabolic effect as compared with other oral or inhaled formulations currently under study. These encouraging results justify further clinical studies to assess the clinical potential of this formulation. Conceivably, the potential clinical utility of the current prototypic formulation maybe in: playing a role in IGT and early stage T2DM where it will serves to supplement endogenous insulin, and thus reduce the burden of “overdrive” on islet cells, as suggested by the observed consistent reduction in c-peptide in this study.
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Post by mango on Sept 6, 2017 13:29:52 GMT -5
oramed insulin takes two and 1/2 hours to work?
www.oramed.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/ADA-2008-Poster.pdf
notice the sell is 8 units of insulin rather than 230 units of insulin. June 6-10, 2008 Conclusions Pharmacokiinetiics ((PK)) and Pharmacodynamiics ((PD)) off Orall IInsulliin iin Heallthy Subjjects Miriam Kidron, Ph.D, Itamar Raz, M.D. MichaWolfensberger, *Herve Schwob Ph.D *Christian Schruefer Diabetes Unit, Hadassah University Hospital, and Oramed Pharmaceuticals, Jerusalem Israel * Swiss Caps, Kirchberg Switzerland Eight healthy male volunteers (mean age 25 years, BMI 20.1-17.7 kg/m²) participated in this 4-period, cross-over study. During each visit, separated by a 72 to 96 hours washout period, and after an overnight fast, subjects were administered an oral insulin capsule containing 8 mg of insulin combined with varying doses of Oramed’s enhancing agents (formulations). The pharamcokinetic profile of each insulin formulation and its metabolic effects on glucose, insulin and c-peptide were assessed over a five hour period
Conclusion: The results of this study in healthy volunteers were positive and showed that insulin administered by Oramed’s capsules; A) Is absorbed and is biologically active. B) It exhibits unique Pk and PD effects characterized by the delayed onset of action and a prolonged metabolic effect as compared with other oral or inhaled formulations currently under study. These encouraging results justify further clinical studies to assess the clinical potential of this formulation. Conceivably, the potential clinical utility of the current prototypic formulation maybe in: playing a role in IGT and early stage T2DM where it will serves to supplement endogenous insulin, and thus reduce the burden of “overdrive” on islet cells, as suggested by the observed consistent reduction in c-peptide in this study.
Looks like a load of BS to me.
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Post by brentie on Sept 6, 2017 14:53:15 GMT -5
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Post by sayhey24 on Sept 6, 2017 15:07:17 GMT -5
Mango - thanks, I went right to the poster before I saw your next post. Yes, I would agree with BS. When they say unique, they ain't kidding. My first question is what is their rate of hypoglycemia? I don't see it mentioned in the poster. This looks potentially very dangerous.
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Post by liane on Sept 6, 2017 15:08:46 GMT -5
Thanks brentie. This is what I inherently knew about ORMP, but didn't want to bother to find again.
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Post by ilovekauai on Sept 6, 2017 15:13:35 GMT -5
No one can touch Afrezza effectiveness across the board and that's a fact. Out time is coming. Aloha.
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Post by sportsrancho on Sept 6, 2017 15:15:35 GMT -5
What does all this have to do with MNKD? Are we worried... 30 pills a day!
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