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Post by mnholdem on Nov 1, 2017 20:20:51 GMT -5
Amen, brother!
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Post by sellhighdrinklow on Nov 1, 2017 21:14:27 GMT -5
Not nervous in the slightest. I also wasn't nervous when I was buying @ $.723.
Improved label, pending positive STAT results, new Type 2 study.
The constant naysayers on the Yahoo message board.
Buy more and then buy some more.
Can't miss.
Jmho, from a 30- month Afrezza user who has never felt better, A1C, 5.7.
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Post by peppy on Nov 2, 2017 14:04:08 GMT -5
conference call, nov 7
a review as itell would say.
The list
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Post by radgray68 on Nov 6, 2017 14:15:09 GMT -5
The daily negative articles, downgrade by Maxim, SA, Barron's, Motley, etc. sure seem to be a concerted effort to bash the company BEFORE the CC tomorrow. Why? I don't know. Personally, I would have waited for ALL the latest info before opining so as to have all the facts, especially if a CC is close. All these pundits could have issued their bash right after the restructuring. Instead, they waited for the announcement of the CC and THEN issued their warnings accordingly. One even said they know what cash Mannkind will end the year with. We haven't even posted the 3rd quarter numbers yet, but these guys know how the year will end(RIIIGHT)
I tell you, I have never seen so many odd happenings outside of, gee, maybe politics. Here's hoping for some great news tomorrow. However, in the end, it's all about the monomers.
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Post by babaoriley on Nov 6, 2017 14:32:40 GMT -5
Why are you "nervously holding", you should be looking forward to it as there is a ton of positives relative to the last few quarterly calls....the phone calls have started "saw it's down to $3 should I pick some up here" ....my opinion to them is it's a steal, this is pretty typical right? I'd get a call, "WOW, it's close to $7 I'm kicking myself for not grabbing some while it sat before the run up" now you'll get "should I wait until it goes lower?" so so typical. I like the nervousness and negative sentiment heading into the call, actually prefer it this way than the other way around...in the end it doesn't really matter because it's going to go where it's going to go...you either believe in the science or you believe the world is flat...you know kind of like monomer vs. hexamer Agree 100% with the bolded sentiment, Joey. We already know full well what happens when we await these events with giddiness!
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Post by babaoriley on Nov 6, 2017 14:33:39 GMT -5
Joeypotsand pans, Spiro admires you efforts to educate the MNKD masses, But, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. But Joey, some of these guys are like, when the blind lead the blind, they will both fall into the ditch. Most of us longs have crawled and pilled ourselves out of that ditch that Babaoriley told us to watch out for and now we understand what is going on. Spiro here, Did I tell you that Baba actually led the pack into that ditch? Ha, ha, Spiro, how else is a guy supposed to get ahead in this game?
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Post by roseylv on Nov 6, 2017 14:56:33 GMT -5
Baba, It tough for us longs to be giddy. Why, because we seemingly have not had a great conference call since the approval of afrezza.
Mike C, finally gave guidance and now I'm greatly concerned about a miss which will lead to our PPS tanking. The good part is that the guidance was for 2nd half of 2017 which still leads us to a future "stay tuned" comment from mgmt which will also force downward pressure on PPS.
am I nervous, not so much! Why? Because I know there is a chance we could go to zero.....break out the hopium. But at least we are NOT going down w/ out a fight. How in the F**k Mike C got our stock price up to $7 in order to dilute at 6 is beside me (perhaps not knowing is best lol). I'm buckled up for tomorrow are you?
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Nov 6, 2017 15:02:01 GMT -5
Why are you "nervously holding", you should be looking forward to it as there is a ton of positives relative to the last few quarterly calls....the phone calls have started "saw it's down to $3 should I pick some up here" ....my opinion to them is it's a steal, this is pretty typical right? I'd get a call, "WOW, it's close to $7 I'm kicking myself for not grabbing some while it sat before the run up" now you'll get "should I wait until it goes lower?" so so typical. I like the nervousness and negative sentiment heading into the call, actually prefer it this way than the other way around...in the end it doesn't really matter because it's going to go where it's going to go...you either believe in the science or you believe the world is flat...you know kind of like monomer vs. hexamer So it is pretty obvious the "nervous" articles/blogs that are posted today including our friend SO, in case for some reason this gets tossed for "whatever reason" by his friendly editors over there I figured I would post what my response was to his most recent "objectivity article": Tell us something we already don't know, an elementary student can tell the numbers are not going to meet guidance, it's not going to be a surprise and has already been "priced in" heading into the call....sure there is the chance of another "bear raid" using that as an excuse to try and shake committed longs as usual, but to understand the risk compared to the shorts never covering the first time they could maximize their profits near a zero share price not only emboldens those locked up shares but encourages adding to them. Ironically, the only can that continues to get kicked down the road is the prediction of the demise of the company....we've been hearing it consistently for years and years and yet somehow the company continues to defy.....guess we'll be saying the same thing in another six mos. or maybe not as the additional studies continue to show the superiority that the increasing number of testimonials continue to illustrate. From the past regarding the "kicking the can down the road theme": Funny you say that, as stated in the article (like I have said in the past one has to question the ungodly amount of articles on a company that is without a doubt struggling to survive, in other words does it have to be repeatedly "pounded", pun intended) when "staunch perma-bulls are selling", that is the epitome of what some would term capitulation in the investment world. Without combing through the litany of articles this particular author has written along with the cauldron of "praising followers" lol, I wonder how many times there has been his personal "estimate of when cash will run out" and how many times it in fact has been extended....seems like this has been ongoing for at two years but somehow it is akin to ok then tomorrow, ok then tomorrow, and so on and so on. If one were to consider that any remote possibility of a takeover without the common getting eliminated, then what amounts to roughly 18.8 cents/sh pre-split is more likely a time to purely speculate from an EV standpoint rather than a "you should salvage your last few cents standpoint" in my opinion fwiw... Apr 21, 2017. 09:43 PMLink MannKind Under A Buck - New Script Numbers Remain Below 300 - Spencer Osborne The same "free beer" analogy can be said for your articles reiterating MNKD's demise. 23 or so of your last 27 articles continue the redundant theme that this company would have been BK by now or you keep extending the timeline....and so on and so on....again like I stated probably about 10 articles ago...you seem so obsessed about a .50 stock...why keep pounding away on something that should "obviously" wither into obscurity at "some point" down the road....your "free beer" analogy could just as easily apply to your continued "prediction" of the company's demise....find it (the irony of your analogy) very comical Feb 11, 2017. 03:12 PMLink MannKind, Afrezza Sales, And 'Free Beer Tomorrow' - Spencer Osborne What a peach, and it continues, no other articles written by him since mid Aug on any other companies, seems odd....seems pretty "fixated" to me especially for someone that is "not receiving any compensation and has no position
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Post by roseylv on Nov 6, 2017 16:13:55 GMT -5
Why are you "nervously holding", you should be looking forward to it as there is a ton of positives relative to the last few quarterly calls....the phone calls have started "saw it's down to $3 should I pick some up here" ....my opinion to them is it's a steal, this is pretty typical right? I'd get a call, "WOW, it's close to $7 I'm kicking myself for not grabbing some while it sat before the run up" now you'll get "should I wait until it goes lower?" so so typical. I like the nervousness and negative sentiment heading into the call, actually prefer it this way than the other way around...in the end it doesn't really matter because it's going to go where it's going to go...you either believe in the science or you believe the world is flat...you know kind of like monomer vs. hexamer So it is pretty obvious the "nervous" articles/blogs that are posted today including our friend SO, in case for some reason this gets tossed for "whatever reason" by his friendly editors over there I figured I would post what my response was to his most recent "objectivity article": Tell us something we already don't know, an elementary student can tell the numbers are not going to meet guidance, it's not going to be a surprise and has already been "priced in" heading into the call....sure there is the chance of another "bear raid" using that as an excuse to try and shake committed longs as usual, but to understand the risk compared to the shorts never covering the first time they could maximize their profits near a zero share price not only emboldens those locked up shares but encourages adding to them. Ironically, the only can that continues to get kicked down the road is the prediction of the demise of the company....we've been hearing it consistently for years and years and yet somehow the company continues to defy.....guess we'll be saying the same thing in another six mos. or maybe not as the additional studies continue to show the superiority that the increasing number of testimonials continue to illustrate. From the past regarding the "kicking the can down the road theme": Funny you say that, as stated in the article (like I have said in the past one has to question the ungodly amount of articles on a company that is without a doubt struggling to survive, in other words does it have to be repeatedly "pounded", pun intended) when "staunch perma-bulls are selling", that is the epitome of what some would term capitulation in the investment world. Without combing through the litany of articles this particular author has written along with the cauldron of "praising followers" lol, I wonder how many times there has been his personal "estimate of when cash will run out" and how many times it in fact has been extended....seems like this has been ongoing for at two years but somehow it is akin to ok then tomorrow, ok then tomorrow, and so on and so on. If one were to consider that any remote possibility of a takeover without the common getting eliminated, then what amounts to roughly 18.8 cents/sh pre-split is more likely a time to purely speculate from an EV standpoint rather than a "you should salvage your last few cents standpoint" in my opinion fwiw... Apr 21, 2017. 09:43 PMLink MannKind Under A Buck - New Script Numbers Remain Below 300 - Spencer Osborne The same "free beer" analogy can be said for your articles reiterating MNKD's demise. 23 or so of your last 27 articles continue the redundant theme that this company would have been BK by now or you keep extending the timeline....and so on and so on....again like I stated probably about 10 articles ago...you seem so obsessed about a .50 stock...why keep pounding away on something that should "obviously" wither into obscurity at "some point" down the road....your "free beer" analogy could just as easily apply to your continued "prediction" of the company's demise....find it (the irony of your analogy) very comical Feb 11, 2017. 03:12 PMLink MannKind, Afrezza Sales, And 'Free Beer Tomorrow' - Spencer Osborne What a peach, and it continues, no other articles written by him since mid Aug on any other companies, seems odd....seems pretty "fixated" to me especially for someone that is "not receiving any compensation and has no position I understand freedom of speech etc. In today's world, someone can write or post about literally anything! Having said that, the fact that Spencer continues to say he is NOT compensated other than for piddly click traffic is comical. Who in their right mind would spend so much time fixated on a stock or subject with out a serious vested interest? I'd guess VERY few people. He claims to not write for the money, so what is he writing for? To spare those interested in buying shares in MNKD. To save us long shareholders before the ship sinks? I've had a run in w/ spencer on Stocktwits in the past. He speaks up and has valid points to defend his position. I perhaps lost a debate or two against him. And yes, my sales "model" isn't as ironed out as his. Obviously he's so wealthy and retired that he has tons of time to "model" all of the stocks he follows (COUGH MNKD is the only one). Spencer would be the guy to hide behind lawyers and plead the 5th amendment, if he were to ever be deposed for any reason!!! Wouldn't it be nice to subpoena his banking activities lol. Or at least see who paying for all his 5-star vacations to bora bora. Rest assured Spencer is reading this. Rant over!
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Post by brewguy on Nov 6, 2017 16:53:20 GMT -5
Anyone wanna make a friendly wager that Mike C doesn’t invite Jason Kolbert back as an analyst to ask questions? Seems pretty crooked to me if Jason isn’t invited to this CC. Means Mike C doesn’t want any hardball questions.
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Post by cjm18 on Nov 6, 2017 16:58:10 GMT -5
Anyone wanna make a friendly wager that Mike C doesn’t invite Jason Kolbert back as an analyst to ask questions? Seems pretty crooked to me if Jason isn’t invited to this CC. Means Mike C doesn’t want any hardball questions. Mike c would be a fool to piss off any analyst. Mannkind may need another offering maybe from them. And the stock needs attention for better or worse.
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Post by brewguy on Nov 6, 2017 17:01:12 GMT -5
Anyone wanna make a friendly wager that Mike C doesn’t invite Jason Kolbert back as an analyst to ask questions? Seems pretty crooked to me if Jason isn’t invited to this CC. Means Mike C doesn’t want any hardball questions. Mike c would be a fool to piss off any analyst. Mannkind may need another offering maybe from them. And the stock needs attention for better or worse. So you’re saying Jason will be on the call? I think he already pissed off Jason.
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Post by slapshot on Nov 6, 2017 17:31:28 GMT -5
Mike c would be a fool to piss off any analyst. Mannkind may need another offering maybe from them. And the stock needs attention for better or worse. So you’re saying Jason will be on the call? I think he already pissed off Jason. Time will tell, but one thing's for sure: it's better to be pissed off then to be pissed on.
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Post by celo on Nov 6, 2017 17:37:11 GMT -5
Why are you "nervously holding", you should be looking forward to it as there is a ton of positives relative to the last few quarterly calls....the phone calls have started "saw it's down to $3 should I pick some up here" ....my opinion to them is it's a steal, this is pretty typical right? I'd get a call, "WOW, it's close to $7 I'm kicking myself for not grabbing some while it sat before the run up" now you'll get "should I wait until it goes lower?" so so typical. I like the nervousness and negative sentiment heading into the call, actually prefer it this way than the other way around...in the end it doesn't really matter because it's going to go where it's going to go...you either believe in the science or you believe the world is flat...you know kind of like monomer vs. hexamer So it is pretty obvious the "nervous" articles/blogs that are posted today including our friend SO, in case for some reason this gets tossed for "whatever reason" by his friendly editors over there I figured I would post what my response was to his most recent "objectivity article": Tell us something we already don't know, an elementary student can tell the numbers are not going to meet guidance, it's not going to be a surprise and has already been "priced in" heading into the call....sure there is the chance of another "bear raid" using that as an excuse to try and shake committed longs as usual, but to understand the risk compared to the shorts never covering the first time they could maximize their profits near a zero share price not only emboldens those locked up shares but encourages adding to them. Ironically, the only can that continues to get kicked down the road is the prediction of the demise of the company....we've been hearing it consistently for years and years and yet somehow the company continues to defy.....guess we'll be saying the same thing in another six mos. or maybe not as the additional studies continue to show the superiority that the increasing number of testimonials continue to illustrate. From the past regarding the "kicking the can down the road theme": Funny you say that, as stated in the article (like I have said in the past one has to question the ungodly amount of articles on a company that is without a doubt struggling to survive, in other words does it have to be repeatedly "pounded", pun intended) when "staunch perma-bulls are selling", that is the epitome of what some would term capitulation in the investment world. Without combing through the litany of articles this particular author has written along with the cauldron of "praising followers" lol, I wonder how many times there has been his personal "estimate of when cash will run out" and how many times it in fact has been extended....seems like this has been ongoing for at two years but somehow it is akin to ok then tomorrow, ok then tomorrow, and so on and so on. If one were to consider that any remote possibility of a takeover without the common getting eliminated, then what amounts to roughly 18.8 cents/sh pre-split is more likely a time to purely speculate from an EV standpoint rather than a "you should salvage your last few cents standpoint" in my opinion fwiw... Apr 21, 2017. 09:43 PMLink MannKind Under A Buck - New Script Numbers Remain Below 300 - Spencer Osborne The same "free beer" analogy can be said for your articles reiterating MNKD's demise. 23 or so of your last 27 articles continue the redundant theme that this company would have been BK by now or you keep extending the timeline....and so on and so on....again like I stated probably about 10 articles ago...you seem so obsessed about a .50 stock...why keep pounding away on something that should "obviously" wither into obscurity at "some point" down the road....your "free beer" analogy could just as easily apply to your continued "prediction" of the company's demise....find it (the irony of your analogy) very comical Feb 11, 2017. 03:12 PMLink MannKind, Afrezza Sales, And 'Free Beer Tomorrow' - Spencer Osborne What a peach, and it continues, no other articles written by him since mid Aug on any other companies, seems odd....seems pretty "fixated" to me especially for someone that is "not receiving any compensation and has no position Why wouldn't Mike create guidance low enough so that he wouldn't miss? That's not good business practice. Don't lose credibility for possible future shareholders. It also gives life to every contrarian out there. So far, Mike has done an outstanding job, but there is no reason to make promises you can't keep. Is it worth inflating sales figures to obtain a better price for the share sale that recently occurred? Maybe, but acquiring possible future investors becomes much harder 9 months down the road when you will need more financing. IF he misses guidance, I'm sure he will explain his reasoning for missing very well. I believe in the product. Sales growth is continuing at a sustainable pace and will most likely eventually perform well enough to be profitable. It is all about getting the word out to as many diabetics as possible. We shall see tomorrow. Maybe the sales growth from the label change takes more time than he anticipated.
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Nov 6, 2017 18:21:50 GMT -5
IF he misses guidance, I'm sure he will explain his reasoning for missing very well. I believe in the product. Sales growth is continuing at a sustainable pace and will most likely eventually perform well enough to be profitable. It is all about getting the word out to as many diabetics as possible. We shall see tomorrow. Maybe the sales growth from the label change takes more time than he anticipated. Maybe Mike isn't worried about credibility as he believes 9 mos. down the road investors will be flocking to invest, if he didn't get the alloted raise he managed at the timing it was needed he may not have needed to worry about 9 mos. down the road. It's called survive and advance, rule of nature....obviously there was some significant confidence at $6/sh as a vote of confidence by investors that may not be worried about the current quarters "guidance". As much as SO is harping on "the street" and their possible dismay falling short of guidance, that is a continuing charade of noise over the bigger picture which is getting the insurance on board, that is where the rubber meets the road in this race
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