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Post by sportsrancho on Jan 21, 2018 17:36:17 GMT -5
Agree, How much time are the reps dedicating to training the doctors, or the nurse practitioners? And how much time are they taking with the patients? Vdex gets 95% retention rate! And I think that’s a combination of dealing with the insurance companies themselves, and taking the time to make sure the patient understands it, and gets results. I think it's the case that Vdex gets the motivated patients. If you have gone to the effort of finding Vdex in the first place then you are probably going to put in the work. I am not sure how much time a PCP has to work through the titration process with every patient. It's like fight camp really, half the battle is finding that it exists (here is a link - Fight Camp tickets usually sell out in hours...) I think all patients going to their Endo’s to get Afrezza are motivated, it’s like Boot Camp getting a script!
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Post by sportsrancho on Jan 21, 2018 17:46:26 GMT -5
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Post by peppy on Jan 21, 2018 17:50:17 GMT -5
more importantly, close to the food court.
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Post by mannmade on Jan 21, 2018 18:01:31 GMT -5
more importantly, close to the food court. Hard to believe it is a coincidence. This is the second event they are side by side.
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ADA
Jan 21, 2018 18:22:43 GMT -5
Post by dreamboatcruise on Jan 21, 2018 18:22:43 GMT -5
more importantly, close to the food court. Hard to believe it is a coincidence. This is the second event they are side by side. For me it's not hard to believe it could be a coincidence... or if there is some non-coincidence it isn't what many here are probably wishing for. Trade shows often have a process where companies choose their booth based on seniority of how long they've been having a booth. Since companies often have similar thoughts about which areas are more desirable than others, the companies that are similar in the picking pecking order may end up near each other on the floor.
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Post by agedhippie on Jan 21, 2018 19:11:58 GMT -5
I think it's the case that Vdex gets the motivated patients. If you have gone to the effort of finding Vdex in the first place then you are probably going to put in the work. I am not sure how much time a PCP has to work through the titration process with every patient. It's like fight camp really, half the battle is finding that it exists (here is a link - Fight Camp tickets usually sell out in hours...) I think all patients going to their Endo’s to get Afrezza are motivated, it’s like Boot Camp getting a script! I would agree if they persist to the point that they get a script
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Post by mango on Jan 21, 2018 19:45:28 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me but it looks like MannKind has a great spot.
I wish I could afford to go to this.
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Post by falconquest on Jan 22, 2018 7:15:54 GMT -5
I can see how patients would take Vdex more seriously and delicate themselves to learning ; a doctors office doesn’t seem like the right environment to get a good grip on the nuances of inhaled insulin no matter how interested in learning , something to be said for VDEX . Can't help but comment. Yeah, why would we think a doctors office is the place to go to get the treatment you need for a successful outcome? I hate the manner in which medicine is delivered. What if doctors were paid based on patient outcomes instead of how many they run through the exam room each day while sticking to known (past) protocols. But I digress from the topic.
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Post by tiberious on Jan 22, 2018 12:31:48 GMT -5
I can see how patients would take Vdex more seriously and delicate themselves to learning ; a doctors office doesn’t seem like the right environment to get a good grip on the nuances of inhaled insulin no matter how interested in learning , something to be said for VDEX . Can't help but comment. Yeah, why would we think a doctors office is the place to go to get the treatment you need for a successful outcome? I hate the manner in which medicine is delivered. What if doctors were paid based on patient outcomes instead of how many they run through the exam room each day while sticking to known (past) protocols. But I digress from the topic. Agree this is great location with lots of visibility and foot traffic. Watching the Mannkind saga for ~10 plus years has opened my eyes on the FDA, Doctors and the PBMs. FDA=Lobbyist driven, Doctors=Status quo/Lazy/Not the best treatment option driven, PBMs=Greed driven to a fault (they could save money with Afrezza long term).
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Jan 22, 2018 20:38:12 GMT -5
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Post by straightly on Jan 22, 2018 20:38:12 GMT -5
Agree, How much time are the reps dedicating to training the doctors, or the nurse practitioners? And how much time are they taking with the patients? Vdex gets 95% retention rate! And I think that’s a combination of dealing with the insurance companies themselves, and taking the time to make sure the patient understands it, and gets results. I think it's the case that Vdex gets the motivated patients. If you have gone to the effort of finding Vdex in the first place then you are probably going to put in the work. I am not sure how much time a PCP has to work through the titration process with every patient. It's like fight camp really, half the battle is finding that it exists (here is a link - Fight Camp tickets usually sell out in hours...) Cannot one simply wait a day or two for vacancies left by the passed?
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Jan 26, 2018 17:40:54 GMT -5
Post by pantaloons on Jan 26, 2018 17:40:54 GMT -5
Will abstracts for the ADA conference be available for viewing well before the conference begins? If so, when are they typically made available? I was unable to find this information on the ADA website for previous years.
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Post by peppy on Jan 26, 2018 17:51:17 GMT -5
Will abstracts for the ADA conference be available for viewing well before the conference begins? If so, when are they typically made available? I was unable to find this information on the ADA website for previous years. I do not believe they will be publicly available until the date of release at the conference? I recall that was the case with this as well. this is the 2016 ADA presented abstract that has lead to the present label improvement. www.mannkindcorp.com/Collateral/Documents/English-US/Baughman%20poster%20100-LB%20FINAL%20X2.pdf
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Jan 26, 2018 18:08:33 GMT -5
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Post by slugworth008 on Jan 26, 2018 18:08:33 GMT -5
Hard to believe it is a coincidence. This is the second event they are side by side. For me it's not hard to believe it could be a coincidence... or if there is some non-coincidence it isn't what many here are probably wishing for. Trade shows often have a process where companies choose their booth based on seniority of how long they've been having a booth. Since companies often have similar thoughts about which areas are more desirable than others, the companies that are similar in the picking pecking order may end up near each other on the floor. Personally I think it's a coincidence that it's a coincidence - or is it? hmmmmm. It is MNKD after all
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Post by kc on Jan 26, 2018 21:38:32 GMT -5
Abbott in not in the drug business they are in the CGM and supply business. They would not be a buy in partner / perhaps They might pay MannKind to market to Dr’s their new freestyle
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Jan 26, 2018 22:47:00 GMT -5
Post by agedhippie on Jan 26, 2018 22:47:00 GMT -5
Abbott in not in the drug business they are in the CGM and supply business. They would not be a buy in partner / perhaps They might pay MannKind to market to Dr’s their new freestyle +1 on not on the drug business. They spun off their drug business in 2013 (AbbVie Inc - ABBV) so they are unlikely to go there again. Abbott has been selling into the diabetic meter markets for over 20 years so they may feel they don't need the help
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