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Post by mnholdem on May 31, 2018 10:27:22 GMT -5
Costs to insurers/patients will still play a part in the future, IMO, especially for global treatment options.  |
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Post by dreamboatcruise on May 31, 2018 10:38:14 GMT -5
Hand raised. Head down in shame. It was probably me (re: $150B). I thought Afrezza and Techosphere would be fantasticly successful by now... Now I’m dreading the next dilution, and hoping scripts get to 1000 this year. Hey dbc, I remember when the talk of Al looking to get 10x of his average was circulating, and at that time his average was rumored to be between $6 and $7/share. Just going by the price of the options of ALs that expired a few years back, $30 ish by memory, if things would’ve gone as planned we may have come close. and Sean, don’t hang that head too low, we’re still in business !! If Afrezza and Technosphere were worthless you wouldn’t see the continuing campaign to destroy Mannkind. 30 million plus short shares, hit piece after hit piece, naked shorting, an unprecedented share lending program that has recently fizzled for some reason  We’re not finished yet,, ✌🏻😎 Of course Al would never had thought unlimited dilution could occur without likewise diluting the ultimate share price achievable. Al also had high hopes for the oncology work, which has been divested. No way to ask Al what he would expect right now, but I'm guessing it would be far more modest than some of the people here. He was a pragmatist. I think his seeing the destruction of equity of MNKD was one of the things that weighed heavily on his health. Afrezza certainly isn't worthless, but the FDA and Sanofi debacles left us in quite a hole to dig out of. Digging out of a hole always sounds easier than it is... I think I'd rather have a rope and a grappling hook. Maybe STAT is our grappling hook and Kendall can use his special ops training.  |
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Post by peppy on May 31, 2018 11:01:33 GMT -5
Hey dbc, I remember when the talk of Al looking to get 10x of his average was circulating, and at that time his average was rumored to be between $6 and $7/share. Just going by the price of the options of ALs that expired a few years back, $30 ish by memory, if things would’ve gone as planned we may have come close. and Sean, don’t hang that head too low, we’re still in business !! If Afrezza and Technosphere were worthless you wouldn’t see the continuing campaign to destroy Mannkind. 30 million plus short shares, hit piece after hit piece, naked shorting, an unprecedented share lending program that has recently fizzled for some reason We’re not finished yet,, ✌🏻😎 Of course Al would never had thought unlimited dilution could occur without likewise diluting the ultimate share price achievable. Al also had high hopes for the oncology work, which has been divested. No way to ask Al what he would expect right now, but I'm guessing it would be far more modest than some of the people here. He was a pragmatist. I think his seeing the destruction of equity of MNKD was one of the things that weighed heavily on his health.Afrezza certainly isn't worthless, but the FDA and Sanofi debacles left us in quite a hole to dig out of. Digging out of a hole always sounds easier than it is... I think I'd rather have a rope and a grappling hook. Maybe STAT is our grappling hook and Kendall can use his special ops training. Dr. Kendall, see credentials www.screencast.com/t/OYvDwXGBEH , believes Afrezza should be the standard of care. www.screencast.com/t/IzMj4HiBwQDr. Kendall is alive. In other news, Sanofi makes Ambien.  |
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Post by tarheelblue004 on May 31, 2018 11:18:37 GMT -5
Haha peppy their tweet in response to RB was really funny. Along the lines of “all drugs have side effects, but racism is not a known side effect to any of our products”. |
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Post by goyocafe on May 31, 2018 11:25:17 GMT -5
Of course Al would never had thought unlimited dilution could occur without likewise diluting the ultimate share price achievable. Al also had high hopes for the oncology work, which has been divested. No way to ask Al what he would expect right now, but I'm guessing it would be far more modest than some of the people here. He was a pragmatist. I think his seeing the destruction of equity of MNKD was one of the things that weighed heavily on his health.Afrezza certainly isn't worthless, but the FDA and Sanofi debacles left us in quite a hole to dig out of. Digging out of a hole always sounds easier than it is... I think I'd rather have a rope and a grappling hook. Maybe STAT is our grappling hook and Kendall can use his special ops training. Dr. Kendall, see credentials www.screencast.com/t/OYvDwXGBEH , believes Afrezza should be the standard of care. www.screencast.com/t/IzMj4HiBwQDr. Kendall is alive. In other news, Sanofi makes Ambien. It makes me wonder if Dr. Kendall sees this that others don't as well. Is the embedded culture so firmly entrenched that it won't change its collective mindset?. |
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Post by peppy on May 31, 2018 11:34:09 GMT -5
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Post by oldfishtowner on May 31, 2018 13:39:31 GMT -5
It makes me wonder if Dr. Kendall sees this that others don't as well. Is the embedded culture so firmly entrenched that it won't change its collective mindset?. If it hasn't changed its mindset yet, it will soon begin to (with the ADA meeting presentations and Kendall and his advisory committee talking up Afrezza with their friends). |
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Post by mytakeonit on May 31, 2018 14:46:09 GMT -5
Does this mean the shareholder's party will be in Hawaii? 🌞🌊🏄♂️🏝🕺🏻💃🏻🥥🍻🥂🍾 It will be if pps hits $40 and gareaudan spends his profits buying us drinks ... in Hawaii !!! Guess he doesn't know about the prices in Hawaii. I buy a ton of drinks also ... but, I only offer to buy people drinks in Las Vegas and in the casino. "Order all the drinks you want people ... drinks are on me!" And this is true ... after being away from a casino for at least a year ... ALL the regular cocktail waitresses still called me by my first name. Ha! |
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Post by sportsrancho on May 31, 2018 14:46:25 GMT -5
Al Mann expected a payback of 10-100 times his estates investment: ~800mil..... 8bil-80bil. $40 a share is the low end. I've heard the 10x before. What is your source for him saying he ever expected a market cap of of $150B or more (to yield 10x return on his investment)? I don't believe I ever saw anything he suggested near that. As much success as Al Mann had in his career that is orders of magnitude beyond his other successes. Seems quite an extraordinary claim. BTW, your $40 a share is way above what Nate Pile, one of Mannkind's strongest proponents is projecting for a market cap. I think Sports said recently he raised the upper end of his range from $3B to $4B market cap. No, I told you before that was gamblerjag that said 4 billion not Nate, Nate said $26.... NatesNotesMay 17th, 8:32 am as a bonus, biotech stocks tend to overshoot by just as much on the upside as they do on the downside (& $26 is just "fair value" for $MNKD) “I think "fair value" TODAY, based on what we know about Afrezza and AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, is probably somewhere in the $3 billion range... and more (probably quite a bit more!) down the road, with the potential valuation only getting higher the further out you're willing to look.” |
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Post by mytakeonit on May 31, 2018 14:49:37 GMT -5
That's true ... then I upped it to $200 ... and later to $300. Wow! People will be so sad to sell MNKD stock at $40 to buy drinks. Ha!
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Post by sportsrancho on May 31, 2018 14:51:12 GMT -5
Does this mean the shareholder's party will be in Hawaii? 🌞🌊🏄♂️🏝🕺🏻💃🏻🥥🍻🥂🍾 It will be if pps hits $40 and gareaudan spends his profits buying us drinks ... in Hawaii !!! Guess he doesn't know about the prices in Hawaii. I buy a ton of drinks also ... but, I only offer to buy people drinks in Las Vegas and in the casino. "Order all the drinks you want people ... drinks are on me!" And this is true ... after being away from a casino for at least a year ... ALL the regular cocktail waitresses still called me by my first name. Ha! $10... dinner party at the Glambling Cowboy in Temecula. $20 Party in Vegas!🎉 |
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Post by mytakeonit on May 31, 2018 14:54:21 GMT -5
Could be fun ... but don't forget to add the $700+ airfare for me to get there. $20 party in Vegas sounds like a coupon deal. Ha! |
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Post by mango on May 31, 2018 15:05:22 GMT -5
It will be if pps hits $40 and gareaudan spends his profits buying us drinks ... in Hawaii !!! Guess he doesn't know about the prices in Hawaii. I buy a ton of drinks also ... but, I only offer to buy people drinks in Las Vegas and in the casino. "Order all the drinks you want people ... drinks are on me!" And this is true ... after being away from a casino for at least a year ... ALL the regular cocktail waitresses still called me by my first name. Ha! $10... dinner party at the Glambling Cowboy in Temecula. $20 Party in Vegas!🎉  |
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Post by peppy on May 31, 2018 15:21:50 GMT -5
MNKD Nasdaq real time volume today, 1,194,379 shares. MNKD Nasdaq Summary volume today, 1,648,240 shares. MNKD $2 +0.01 +0.5% www.nasdaq.com/symbol/mnkdParty on. |
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Post by mytakeonit on May 31, 2018 15:32:00 GMT -5
MNKD Nasdaq real time volume today, 1,194,379 shares. MNKD Nasdaq Summary volume today, 1,648,240 shares. MNKD $2 +0.01 +0.5% www.nasdaq.com/symbol/mnkdParty on. Unbelievable that it was such a battle for that penny. Guess it'll be June after ADA that we hit $40 ... Ha! |
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