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Post by prcgorman2 on Apr 7, 2019 10:15:13 GMT -5
I’ve noticed that my posts have become reactive and very defensive of Mannkind management.
For those of you who “like” the posts, thank you, but I hope it is because you have a similar opinion without regard to my opinions. Do Your Own Due Diligence (DYODD) as they say.
For those I feel are persistently negative and are shareholders with a long sentiment (or are just desparate because your investment is significant and worth substanitally less than what your cost basis is), you have my sympathy and my apologies for when I have treated your remarks roughly without giving them sufficient credit. Not everything is negative and not everything is positive and I should always try to acknowledge truth regardless of whether it is positive or negative.
And so to these two groups I will offer my reasons for my defensive reactions.
First, I also have what I consider a substantial investment. I don’t want it to evaporate wholly or be stuck in perpetual mud. And, I believe very much in Mannkind management and want them to protect Afrezza as though it were there infant T1 child.
I want them to lose sleep and worry about it night and day and be vigilant against bad advice that could put their baby at risk leaving them scarred for life as well as those who like me believe Afrezza is the heart-and-soul of Mannkind and the key to “an embarassment of riches” if it is ever going to happen.
I believe the infant is fundamentally strong and given sufficient nurturing and care will someday blossom into a very well respected mature version of itself. It should not be handed off entrusted to strangers who may or may not have the infant’s best interest at heart and who may mistreat it horribly as happened in the one-day care that was given the opportunity.
I am very proud of the parents of the infant and believe they have been doing their very best with the most meager of resources and having to recover from a near mortal wound. The extended family including the Board of Directors, the Mann Foundation, early adopters - especially those who’ve taken to social media to promote their experiences, and concerned investors who want to see their hopes for Afrezza be realized, have all offered material and moral support and are to be commended.
There is a final group of PRO-boards posters however who are not investors but for reasons known only to themselves and suspected by me have decided to infest the threads with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) and whose agenda appears to be to downplay the value of Afrezza, and the quality of the Mannkind management with the intent of derailing the marketing of Afrezza by Mannkind either by replacing the existing management who has shown to be surprisingly nimble and effective, or to put Afrezza into the hands of a big BP as though they are now trustworthy even though past and recent experience has shown that they are driven by avarice and make their decisions accordingly.
For this final group, who are the same kind of folks who dominate the unmoderated social networks and are in some cases clearly being paid to say negative things in a surprisingly overt effort to negatively manipulate investor sentiment in an effort to manipulate the stock price down, I have no apologies other than when I mistakenly provide misinformation as happened recently when I assumed Cipla was $500B market cap when it was rupees instead of dollars. India is one of the top 3 most rapidly industrializing nations in the world and there are megabillionaires (where billionaire is dollars, not rupees) such as the Tata brothers so I was willing to believe Cipla was a $500B market cap in dollars.
For this final group of bashers I have only the deepest disrepect. They have been successful in negatively manipulating this investor’s sentiment, but it is about their character and the larger financial marketplaces and their regulators who seem to either turn a blind eye or worse embrace the behavior.
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Post by louaboardalia on Apr 7, 2019 10:34:02 GMT -5
Well said!
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Post by sweedee79 on Apr 7, 2019 12:17:31 GMT -5
I feel exactly the same as you do .... Great post. I do however need to keep myself in check sometimes so that I can remain objective..
It isn't wise to let personal feelings and emotions get in the way of good judgement when it comes to an investment..
So sometimes I have to take a step back and at least consider another opinion even though it may be somewhat negative.. and actually contrary views keep me grounded and force me to look at things from different sides.
I have felt somewhat conflicted lately with all that has been going on. Sometimes I feel defensive of management and sometimes I feel angry with them. lol.. I guess it's been a long road and it's hard to remain positive all of the time.. but man have I learned a lot from all of this.. and will continue to do so..
Will always defend Afrezza cuz I know beyond doubt how good it is.
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Post by sportsrancho on Apr 7, 2019 12:30:49 GMT -5
Exactly:-) I can defend Mike and be mad at him all at the same time. We all know what we know, we know what we think, and we know what we hope. And those things are probably slightly different for every shareholder.
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Post by uvula on Apr 7, 2019 12:33:52 GMT -5
Nice posts.
The good thing that is different from a few years ago is that no one today is questioning the safety or effectiveness of afrezza itself. While this is great, it also makes it harder to distinguish between frustrated investors and evil FUDsters.
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Post by sportsrancho on Apr 7, 2019 12:39:55 GMT -5
It’s not hard for me at all, I know you’re long🤣 you’ve also caused an extreme amount of trouble. Lol
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Post by buyitonsale on Apr 7, 2019 13:00:26 GMT -5
Only those who say they are long in their profile are long.
It's as simple as that...
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Post by radgray68 on Apr 7, 2019 13:13:41 GMT -5
I've seen it too. I've responded too. Heck, I've probably posted more the past couple months than all of last year because of it. But it chaps my hide to read such utter b.s. sometimes when I know darned well the facts are different. The capitalist pig in me says just shut up and keep buying the dips but I think we're all financially tired of that plan. GLTA
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Post by awesomo on Apr 7, 2019 13:52:53 GMT -5
I've seen it too. I've responded too. Heck, I've probably posted more the past couple months than all of last year because of it. But it chaps my hide to read such utter b.s. sometimes when I know darned well the facts are different. The capitalist pig in me says just shut up and keep buying the dips but I think we're all financially tired of that plan. GLTA The B.S. comes from both sides of the aisle, positive and negative. They're both annoying for me and I'll call it out for other side.
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Post by letitride on Apr 7, 2019 14:57:25 GMT -5
Im on the pro boards there is no other side. As to not be offensive but yeah I AM!
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Post by falconquest on Apr 7, 2019 15:31:10 GMT -5
I’ve noticed that my posts have become reactive and very defensive of Mannkind management. For those of you who “like” the posts, thank you, but I hope it is because you have a similar opinion without regard to my opinions. Do Your Own Due Diligence (DYODD) as they say. For those I feel are persistently negative and are shareholders with a long sentiment (or are just desparate because your investment is significant and worth substanitally less than what your cost basis is), you have my sympathy and my apologies for when I have treated your remarks roughly without giving them sufficient credit. Not everything is negative and not everything is positive and I should always try to acknowledge truth regardless of whether it is positive or negative. And so to these two groups I will offer my reasons for my defensive reactions. First, I also have what I consider a substantial investment. I don’t want it to evaporate wholly or be stuck in perpetual mud. And, I believe very much in Mannkind management and want them to protect Afrezza as though it were there infant T1 child. I want them to lose sleep and worry about it night and day and be vigilant against bad advice that could put their baby at risk leaving them scarred for life as well as those who like me believe Afrezza is the heart-and-soul of Mannkind and the key to “an embarassment of riches” if it is ever going to happen. I believe the infant is fundamentally strong and given sufficient nurturing and care will someday blossom into a very well respected mature version of itself. It should not be handed off entrusted to strangers who may or may not have the infant’s best interest at heart and who may mistreat it horribly as happened in the one-day care that was given the opportunity. I am very proud of the parents of the infant and believe they have been doing their very best with the most meager of resources and having to recover from a near mortal wound. The extended family including the Board of Directors, the Mann Foundation, early adopters - especially those who’ve taken to social media to promote their experiences, and concerned investors who want to see their hopes for Afrezza be realized, have all offered material and moral support and are to be commended. There is a final group of PRO-boards posters however who are not investors but for reasons known only to themselves and suspected by me have decided to infest the threads with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) and whose agenda appears to be to downplay the value of Afrezza, and the quality of the Mannkind management with the intent of derailing the marketing of Afrezza by Mannkind either by replacing the existing management who has shown to be surprisingly nimble and effective, or to put Afrezza into the hands of a big BP as though they are now trustworthy even though past and recent experience has shown that they are driven by avarice and make their decisions accordingly.For this final group, who are the same kind of folks who dominate the unmoderated social networks and are in some cases clearly being paid to say negative things in a surprisingly overt effort to negatively manipulate investor sentiment in an effort to manipulate the stock price down, I have no apologies other than when I mistakenly provide misinformation as happened recently when I assumed Cipla was $500B market cap when it was rupees instead of dollars. India is one of the top 3 most rapidly industrializing nations in the world and there are megabillionaires (where billionaire is dollars, not rupees) such as the Tata brothers so I was willing to believe Cipla was a $500B market cap in dollars. For this final group of bashers I have only the deepest disrepect. They have been successful in negatively manipulating this investor’s sentiment, but it is about their character and the larger financial marketplaces and their regulators who seem to either turn a blind eye or worse embrace the behavior. While I appreciate your sentiment I have to disagree with you when it comes to people posting to spread "FUD" as you call it. I think the moderators do a stellar job of policing this board for such things. What annoys ME are "johnny come lately's" who are quick to criticize others who complain about management, the share price and the lack of sales. As I have stated in the past, this is business. You either succeed or you get out. There are no half-ways. Mike has kept this company afloat. That's about all you can say. We can disagree about strategy all you want but the bottom line is, Mannkind has the best damned insulin product ever developed. If it takes a partnership with a deep pockets pharma company to make it successful then so be it. As many here know, I lost a ton of money because I believed in the company and in Afrezza. Afrezza hasn't let me down but the company sure hasn't been able to make it happen to date. I don't care who the CEO is. I want this product successful in the market. Anything else is noise. Make that happen and the share price will follow. I have a hell of a loss to recover and I quite frankly don't need someone telling me how negative I am because I criticize management. If they can't take the heat then get the hell out and make way for someone who can get the job done. We have been screwing around for too damned long here and it's about time to make something happen. Now go ahead and criticize that all you want.
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Post by ktim on Apr 7, 2019 16:05:48 GMT -5
I’ve noticed that my posts have become reactive and very defensive of Mannkind management. For those of you who “like” the posts, thank you, but I hope it is because you have a similar opinion without regard to my opinions. Do Your Own Due Diligence (DYODD) as they say. For those I feel are persistently negative and are shareholders with a long sentiment (or are just desparate because your investment is significant and worth substanitally less than what your cost basis is), you have my sympathy and my apologies for when I have treated your remarks roughly without giving them sufficient credit. Not everything is negative and not everything is positive and I should always try to acknowledge truth regardless of whether it is positive or negative. And so to these two groups I will offer my reasons for my defensive reactions. First, I also have what I consider a substantial investment. I don’t want it to evaporate wholly or be stuck in perpetual mud. And, I believe very much in Mannkind management and want them to protect Afrezza as though it were there infant T1 child. I want them to lose sleep and worry about it night and day and be vigilant against bad advice that could put their baby at risk leaving them scarred for life as well as those who like me believe Afrezza is the heart-and-soul of Mannkind and the key to “an embarassment of riches” if it is ever going to happen. I believe the infant is fundamentally strong and given sufficient nurturing and care will someday blossom into a very well respected mature version of itself. It should not be handed off entrusted to strangers who may or may not have the infant’s best interest at heart and who may mistreat it horribly as happened in the one-day care that was given the opportunity. I am very proud of the parents of the infant and believe they have been doing their very best with the most meager of resources and having to recover from a near mortal wound. The extended family including the Board of Directors, the Mann Foundation, early adopters - especially those who’ve taken to social media to promote their experiences, and concerned investors who want to see their hopes for Afrezza be realized, have all offered material and moral support and are to be commended. There is a final group of PRO-boards posters however who are not investors but for reasons known only to themselves and suspected by me have decided to infest the threads with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) and whose agenda appears to be to downplay the value of Afrezza, and the quality of the Mannkind management with the intent of derailing the marketing of Afrezza by Mannkind either by replacing the existing management who has shown to be surprisingly nimble and effective, or to put Afrezza into the hands of a big BP as though they are now trustworthy even though past and recent experience has shown that they are driven by avarice and make their decisions accordingly.For this final group, who are the same kind of folks who dominate the unmoderated social networks and are in some cases clearly being paid to say negative things in a surprisingly overt effort to negatively manipulate investor sentiment in an effort to manipulate the stock price down, I have no apologies other than when I mistakenly provide misinformation as happened recently when I assumed Cipla was $500B market cap when it was rupees instead of dollars. India is one of the top 3 most rapidly industrializing nations in the world and there are megabillionaires (where billionaire is dollars, not rupees) such as the Tata brothers so I was willing to believe Cipla was a $500B market cap in dollars. For this final group of bashers I have only the deepest disrepect. They have been successful in negatively manipulating this investor’s sentiment, but it is about their character and the larger financial marketplaces and their regulators who seem to either turn a blind eye or worse embrace the behavior. While I appreciate your sentiment I have to disagree with you when it comes to people posting to spread "FUD" as you call it. I think the moderators do a stellar job of policing this board for such things. What annoys ME are "johnny come lately's" who are quick to criticize others who complain about management, the share price and the lack of sales. As I have stated in the past, this is business. You either succeed or you get out. There are no half-ways. Mike has kept this company afloat. That's about all you can say. We can disagree about strategy all you want but the bottom line is, Mannkind has the best damned insulin product ever developed. If it takes a partnership with a deep pockets pharma company to make it successful then so be it. As many here know, I lost a ton of money because I believed in the company and in Afrezza. Afrezza hasn't let me down but the company sure hasn't been able to make it happen to date. I don't care who the CEO is. I want this product successful in the market. Anything else is noise. Make that happen and the share price will follow. I have a hell of a loss to recover and I quite frankly don't need someone telling me how negative I am because I criticize management. If they can't take the heat then get the hell out and make way for someone who can get the job done. We have been screwing around for too damned long here and it's about time to make something happen. Now go ahead and criticize that all you want. Falcon, you little FUDster. I think a majority of the problem is that management has repeatedly set expectations that were not met. Remember when a couple of years ago it was said Medicare coverage would improve at the start of the new year. Now we're still being told the same thing. Just wait until Jan 2020. 280M shares to last many years, with lots of non-dilutive fundraising options. Revenue estimates were way off for 2018. Brazil approval late Q4 or no later than Q1. We've been told Afrezza is very "commercially responsive" and with the ad campaign this year given a rough time frame expectation by management for results which is now long past. Certainly no big jump in NRx is yet discernible. People two months ago were saying this was "make or break" period. Now, of course, as the "make" certainly hasn't played out as many expected, the goal post will be moved and questioning what's happened now must be labelled as purveying FUD. In reality it's management that is creating the fear, uncertainty and doubt with these sorts of things. I wish I had the power to influence that some here imagine a few questioning words would. I don't envy management's jobs as I suspect it is real balancing act of trying to support share price without resorting to propagating unrealistic expectations. However, FUD comes from a lack of management credibility, not a few random people complaining about management on a forum likely not read by anyone of importance in the investing world. MNKD shareholding FUDsters UNITE! We call on management for better communication to unFUD the situation.
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Post by falconquest on Apr 7, 2019 16:31:15 GMT -5
I appreciate your post ktim. It's very possible that Mike will be successful but it sure isn't happening right now. Shares continue to be diluted while results remain stagnant. This does not impact me but it certainly does everyone who holds shares. While I may seem negative about management I am certainly bullish on the prospects for Afrezza. It's time for this to take off.......somehow!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 16:41:03 GMT -5
I’ve noticed that my posts have become reactive and very defensive of Mannkind management. For those of you who “like” the posts, thank you, but I hope it is because you have a similar opinion without regard to my opinions. Do Your Own Due Diligence (DYODD) as they say. For those I feel are persistently negative and are shareholders with a long sentiment (or are just desparate because your investment is significant and worth substanitally less than what your cost basis is), you have my sympathy and my apologies for when I have treated your remarks roughly without giving them sufficient credit. Not everything is negative and not everything is positive and I should always try to acknowledge truth regardless of whether it is positive or negative. And so to these two groups I will offer my reasons for my defensive reactions. First, I also have what I consider a substantial investment. I don’t want it to evaporate wholly or be stuck in perpetual mud. And, I believe very much in Mannkind management and want them to protect Afrezza as though it were there infant T1 child. I want them to lose sleep and worry about it night and day and be vigilant against bad advice that could put their baby at risk leaving them scarred for life as well as those who like me believe Afrezza is the heart-and-soul of Mannkind and the key to “an embarassment of riches” if it is ever going to happen. I believe the infant is fundamentally strong and given sufficient nurturing and care will someday blossom into a very well respected mature version of itself. It should not be handed off entrusted to strangers who may or may not have the infant’s best interest at heart and who may mistreat it horribly as happened in the one-day care that was given the opportunity. I am very proud of the parents of the infant and believe they have been doing their very best with the most meager of resources and having to recover from a near mortal wound. The extended family including the Board of Directors, the Mann Foundation, early adopters - especially those who’ve taken to social media to promote their experiences, and concerned investors who want to see their hopes for Afrezza be realized, have all offered material and moral support and are to be commended. There is a final group of PRO-boards posters however who are not investors but for reasons known only to themselves and suspected by me have decided to infest the threads with Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) and whose agenda appears to be to downplay the value of Afrezza, and the quality of the Mannkind management with the intent of derailing the marketing of Afrezza by Mannkind either by replacing the existing management who has shown to be surprisingly nimble and effective, or to put Afrezza into the hands of a big BP as though they are now trustworthy even though past and recent experience has shown that they are driven by avarice and make their decisions accordingly. For this final group, who are the same kind of folks who dominate the unmoderated social networks and are in some cases clearly being paid to say negative things in a surprisingly overt effort to negatively manipulate investor sentiment in an effort to manipulate the stock price down, I have no apologies other than when I mistakenly provide misinformation as happened recently when I assumed Cipla was $500B market cap when it was rupees instead of dollars. India is one of the top 3 most rapidly industrializing nations in the world and there are megabillionaires (where billionaire is dollars, not rupees) such as the Tata brothers so I was willing to believe Cipla was a $500B market cap in dollars. For this final group of bashers I have only the deepest disrepect. They have been successful in negatively manipulating this investor’s sentiment, but it is about their character and the larger financial marketplaces and their regulators who seem to either turn a blind eye or worse embrace the behavior. Hey PC. The block button helps against hippies and traders. I highly recommend it!
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Post by olebob1 on Apr 7, 2019 18:43:45 GMT -5
I appreciate your post ktim. It's very possible that Mike will be successful but it sure isn't happening right now. Shares continue to be diluted while results remain stagnant. This does not impact me but it certainly does everyone who holds shares. While I may seem negative about management I am certainly bullish on the prospects for Afrezza. It's time for this to take off.......somehow! Falcon, What signal will alert you to jump back in? Best of luck!
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