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Post by zomzom00 on Sept 14, 2019 12:32:59 GMT -5
If I’m a T2 using Basaglar and Novalog, how do I figure out how much Afrezza I would need to replace the Novalog I use? Has anyone on this board switched and saved money? I am expecting that the choice is for better blood glucose control and accepting higher cost.
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Post by zomzom00 on Sept 14, 2019 12:35:18 GMT -5
I should add that I’ve been invested in Mannkind for almost forever, and a follower of this board for some years.
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Post by figglebird on Sept 14, 2019 13:41:50 GMT -5
I believe there are dosing breakdowns that take into account titration - but from what I have read over the years the prandial switch alone is roughly double the amount of sub q... Does your insurance cover?
If and when you do switch, providing any insight(if comfortable) from the perspective of a diabetic would be incredible.
Respectfully,
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Post by figglebird on Sept 14, 2019 13:43:00 GMT -5
double two sub q... in dosing... not accounting for translation from ml to u or whatever etc
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Post by zomzom00 on Sept 14, 2019 14:24:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I did find the dosing information on the web and also found that my insurance will not cover. Unhappy face! Obviously the mountain blocking our way is lack of insurance coverage. The cash cost on GoodRX is prohibitive. I’m not eligible for the $15 co-pay assistance card.
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Post by mannmade on Sept 14, 2019 15:00:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I did find the dosing information on the web and also found that my insurance will not cover. Unhappy face! Obviously the mountain blocking our way is lack of insurance coverage. The cash cost on GoodRX is prohibitive. I’m not eligible for the $15 co-pay assistance card. I would suggest you go to the Afrezza FB page. You will likely find many helpful pwd using Afrezza successfully. Good luck!
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Post by cedafuntennis on Sept 14, 2019 15:15:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I did find the dosing information on the web and also found that my insurance will not cover. Unhappy face! Obviously the mountain blocking our way is lack of insurance coverage. The cash cost on GoodRX is prohibitive. I’m not eligible for the $15 co-pay assistance card. I would suggest you go to the Afrezza FB page. You will likely find many helpful pwd using Afrezza successfully. Good luck! Sorry to hear what you're facing. Have you tried to call Mannkind Cares for help with pricing?
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Post by agedhippie on Sept 14, 2019 15:15:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I did find the dosing information on the web and also found that my insurance will not cover. Unhappy face! Obviously the mountain blocking our way is lack of insurance coverage. The cash cost on GoodRX is prohibitive. I’m not eligible for the $15 co-pay assistance card. How about the Afrezza Patient Direct program? That lets you buy discounted Afrezza without involving insurance at all - www.eaglepharmacy.com/drug/afrezza-r
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Post by zomzom00 on Sept 14, 2019 16:45:06 GMT -5
Thanks, old hippie! The patient direct program would look pretty attractive if I could order under the 90 day plan twice a year, since my 6-mo usage would fit well inside their 3-mo limit. Another drawback is that these purchases don’t apply to the Medicare part D total out-of-pocket cost, which would add $500-$1000 to the cost of other drugs I buy. Last year the total I spent on Novalog was $715 for five refills of 2 vials listed at about $585 total cost of each refill. I have a Silverscript part D plan and typically come out the other side of the donut hole by the end of the year.
I think I’m gonna have to put the switch to Afrezza on my wish list for what to do with the money when MNKD reaches $100 per share.
Thank you guys for the suggestions! See you at $100
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Post by chc on Sept 15, 2019 11:13:45 GMT -5
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Post by agedhippie on Sept 15, 2019 18:38:17 GMT -5
Thanks, old hippie! The patient direct program would look pretty attractive if I could order under the 90 day plan twice a year, since my 6-mo usage would fit well inside their 3-mo limit. Another drawback is that these purchases don’t apply to the Medicare part D total out-of-pocket cost, which would add $500-$1000 to the cost of other drugs I buy. Last year the total I spent on Novalog was $715 for five refills of 2 vials listed at about $585 total cost of each refill. I have a Silverscript part D plan and typically come out the other side of the donut hole by the end of the year. I think I’m gonna have to put the switch to Afrezza on my wish list for what to do with the money when MNKD reaches $100 per share. Thank you guys for the suggestions! See you at $100 If the 90 day delivery twice a year is attractive then only buy it twice a year. There is no rule that says you have to buy every 90 days.
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Post by fisherman on Sept 15, 2019 21:06:15 GMT -5
I get mine via their discount program from Eagle Pharmacy for @$130 per month and no insurance.
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Post by peppy on Sept 15, 2019 21:24:39 GMT -5
If I’m a T2 using Basaglar and Novalog, how do I figure out how much Afrezza I would need to replace the Novalog I use? Has anyone on this board switched and saved money? I am expecting that the choice is for better blood glucose control and accepting higher cost. Dr. Pettus, uses afrezza and talks about it here. Afrezza time peak and baseline times.
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Post by zomzom00 on Sept 16, 2019 0:06:36 GMT -5
Awesome presentation, peppy, and thank you very much for the link.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 7:55:46 GMT -5
Awesome presentation, peppy, and thank you very much for the link. I would compare it to the Apple iPhone 1 vs iPhone 11. Which is pretty a real comparison. Afrezza is much more superior to the old prandial insulin that hasn't really changed in 25 years. Yes they tweak the formula but it's still the same OLD take for ever to work and stay in your body forever insulin. You will pay more for Afrezza but the performance is 1000x better.
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