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Post by mnkdnewb on Jan 11, 2016 13:00:59 GMT -5
KBIO was headed for / in bk and a "white" night came and it shot up instantly. How realistic a scenario is that for Mnkd? We actually have an fda approved drug after all and at these prices it seems very cheap for someone to swoop in and "steal" the company. Thoughts?
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Post by trondisc on Jan 11, 2016 14:34:44 GMT -5
KBIO was headed for / in bk and a "white" night came and it shot up instantly. How realistic a scenario is that for Mnkd? We actually have an fda approved drug after all and at these prices it seems very cheap for someone to swoop in and "steal" the company. Thoughts? I'm long and your statement is a total pipe dream of bullsh*t. $5 PPS maximum for all of MNKD + they're physical properties. Damn sad to see this is the reality. Oh what could have been... |
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Post by mnkdnewb on Jan 11, 2016 14:54:33 GMT -5
KBIO was headed for / in bk and a "white" night came and it shot up instantly. How realistic a scenario is that for Mnkd? We actually have an fda approved drug after all and at these prices it seems very cheap for someone to swoop in and "steal" the company. Thoughts? I'm long and your statement is a total pipe dream of bullsh*t. $5 PPS maximum for all of MNKD + they're physical properties. Damn sad to see this is the reality. Oh what could have been... I agree it is a pipe dream and if a white knight came in and brought it even to $5 per share we would all be ecstatic. The reason for the post was to get opinions in if it is a pipe dream to have someone come in and scoop up a large portion of shares. Based on speculated buyouts of $1-$5 per share, the current pps is cheap. IMHO someone could easily buy-in at this price, sign a somewhat decent deal for afrezza and make their initial investment back within days. Is that a pipe dream? |
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Post by trondisc on Jan 11, 2016 14:58:30 GMT -5
You were comparing MNKD to KBIO which sky rocketed to $22 PPS; therefore your white knight comparison/scenario is discredited as bullsh*t.
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Post by mnkdnewb on Jan 11, 2016 15:11:37 GMT -5
You were comparing MNKD to KBIO which sky rocketed to $22 PPS; therefore your white knight comparison/scenario is discredited as bullsh*t. Ok so IF someone bought in big and inked a deal, I personally see it going to right around $4-$5 realistically. However, with the short interest it COULD go higher. Call it why you want, but based on your max valuations of what it is worth and the massive amount of short interest, this is still on par with kbio. The rat, MS, said kbio was worth $2.40 per share and he bought at $0.60ish. We all know what happened when people thought he could turn it around. |
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Post by alethea on Jan 11, 2016 15:52:35 GMT -5
I'm long and your statement is a total pipe dream of bullsh*t. $5 PPS maximum for all of MNKD + they're physical properties. Damn sad to see this is the reality. Oh what could have been... I agree it is a pipe dream and if a white knight came in and brought it even to $5 per share we would all be ecstatic. The reason for the post was to get opinions in if it is a pipe dream to have someone come in and scoop up a large portion of shares. Based on speculated buyouts of $1-$5 per share, the current pps is cheap. IMHO someone could easily buy-in at this price, sign a somewhat decent deal for afrezza and make their initial investment back within days. Is that a pipe dream? I agree that they will be forced to sell out. I think maybe $2/sh, no more than $3. I would be thrilled with $5 but don't think that is realistic. Not unless something is damn close on the techno-sphere front and I most certainly do not believe that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 15:53:33 GMT -5
I agree it is a pipe dream and if a white knight came in and brought it even to $5 per share we would all be ecstatic. The reason for the post was to get opinions in if it is a pipe dream to have someone come in and scoop up a large portion of shares. Based on speculated buyouts of $1-$5 per share, the current pps is cheap. IMHO someone could easily buy-in at this price, sign a somewhat decent deal for afrezza and make their initial investment back within days. Is that a pipe dream? I agree that they will be forced to sell out. I think maybe $2/sh, no more than $3. I would be thrilled with $5 but don't think that is realistic. Not unless something is damn close on the techno-sphere front and I most certainly do not believe that. Id be thrilled with 3 |
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Post by mindovermatter on Jan 11, 2016 15:58:49 GMT -5
KBIO was headed for / in bk and a "white" night came and it shot up instantly. How realistic a scenario is that for Mnkd? We actually have an fda approved drug after all and at these prices it seems very cheap for someone to swoop in and "steal" the company. Thoughts? Not similar at all. KBIO has no approved drug. The only reason, imo, Martin bailed them out was because he saw them as a nice shell company and that it would have cost him as little as possible due to their very small share structure. KBIO has just over 4 million shares OS. Also add into the equation that Al controls the company. No such SH had such control at KBIO. Mannkind needs a miracle at this point. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 16:24:38 GMT -5
KBIO was headed for / in bk and a "white" night came and it shot up instantly. How realistic a scenario is that for Mnkd? We actually have an fda approved drug after all and at these prices it seems very cheap for someone to swoop in and "steal" the company. Thoughts? Not similar at all. KBIO has no approved drug. The only reason, imo, Martin bailed them out was because he saw them as a nice shell company and that it would have cost him as little as possible due to their very small share structure. KBIO has just over 4 million shares OS. Also add into the equation that Al controls the company. No such SH had such control at KBIO. Mannkind needs a miracle at this point. He bought in purely for the squeeze it would casue |
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Post by sweedee79 on Jan 11, 2016 18:56:01 GMT -5
We have an FDA approved drug that needs a label change... superiority studies completed... money to reeducate doctors because of the initial label restrictions ... dtc advertising lots of time.. lots of money .. and after that it will take more time for docs to embrace the change that Afrezza represents .. we are in trouble .. and Matt being appointed CEO today concerns me a great deal ..
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Sept 11, 2017 10:35:25 GMT -5
We have an FDA approved drug that needs a label change... superiority studies completed... money to reeducate doctors because of the initial label restrictions ... dtc advertising lots of time.. lots of money .. and after that it will take more time for docs to embrace the change that Afrezza represents .. we are in trouble .. and Matt being appointed CEO today concerns me a great deal .. Fast forward 20 mos. later and a lot of the above quoted factors seem to have gone away....I searched this thread as having been in RVW mode for awhile was curious as to if there were any KBIO references previously....when I read most of the comments on it and everyone talking about being happy with $5 pre-split made me think that would be equivalent to $25 post split....that would be a KBIO type squeeze at this point lol. The other reason I thought about it was the response I rec'd in the SA thread from Bobstert with reference to my question on why wouldn't the short position cover at 13 cents/sh. and then I remembered the Joe Campbell story within the following link for those that don't remember.... www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/112315/did-martin-shkreli-intentionally-burn-kalobios-shorts.asp ....not saying it's going to happen just funny looking back at what s/p would appease some and then the factors that Sweedee brought up and where we are today. Gotta love Mike C.  |
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Post by peppy on Sept 11, 2017 11:13:17 GMT -5
We have an FDA approved drug that needs a label change... superiority studies completed... money to reeducate doctors because of the initial label restrictions ... dtc advertising lots of time.. lots of money .. and after that it will take more time for docs to embrace the change that Afrezza represents .. we are in trouble .. and Matt being appointed CEO today concerns me a great deal .. Fast forward 20 mos. later and a lot of the above quoted factors seem to have gone away....I searched this thread as having been in RVW mode for awhile was curious as to if there were any KBIO references previously....when I read most of the comments on it and everyone talking about being happy with $5 pre-split made me think that would be equivalent to $25 post split....that would be a KBIO type squeeze at this point lol. The other reason I thought about it was the response I rec'd in the SA thread from Bobstert with reference to my question on why wouldn't the short position cover at 13 cents/sh. and then I remembered the Joe Campbell story within the following link for those that don't remember.... www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/112315/did-martin-shkreli-intentionally-burn-kalobios-shorts.asp ....not saying it's going to happen just funny looking back at what s/p would appease some and then the factors that Sweedee brought up and where we are today. Gotta love Mike C. Interesting visual
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Post by lakon on Sept 11, 2017 11:45:34 GMT -5
Interesting indeed, especially if one considers that Shrek played a role in MNKD and KBIO. He claimed making a ton shorting MNKD. He could stand to make a ton on another counter-strike manipulation play [LONG] against the remaining shorts, or so could any wise whale, not that Shrek is qualified as either wise or a whale, certainly not wisdom, but perhaps a wiseguy...
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Sept 11, 2017 12:03:43 GMT -5
Interesting indeed, especially if one considers that Shrek played a role in MNKD and KBIO. He claimed making a ton shorting MNKD. He could stand to make a ton on another counter-strike manipulation play [LONG] against the remaining shorts, or so could any wise whale, not that Shrek is qualified as either wise or a whale, certainly not wisdom, but perhaps a wiseguy... At any time any whale should be able to easily see the potential of what's at stake here, obviously it would take one that understands what entity has kept the foot on the neck of the company to this point. However, a family member or close friend that discovers the merits of Afrezza and shares with that whale is what will be eye opening. It doesn't take much buying pressure currently to move the needle, that's why I remembered the KBIO situation whilst posing the short covering question on the most recent SA piece. I would expect it to be much more of a sustainable situation as opposed to the MS manipulative play with the aforementioned. I would prefer the current PharmD explaining/having that discussion with the whale as opposed to Matt P. (no offense Matt just prefer the knowledge of a PharmD coming from the best ever performing biotech company (AMGN) in history) |
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Post by peppy on Sept 12, 2017 18:48:25 GMT -5
Fast forward 20 mos. later and a lot of the above quoted factors seem to have gone away....I searched this thread as having been in RVW mode for awhile was curious as to if there were any KBIO references previously....when I read most of the comments on it and everyone talking about being happy with $5 pre-split made me think that would be equivalent to $25 post split....that would be a KBIO type squeeze at this point lol. The other reason I thought about it was the response I rec'd in the SA thread from Bobstert with reference to my question on why wouldn't the short position cover at 13 cents/sh. and then I remembered the Joe Campbell story within the following link for those that don't remember.... www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/112315/did-martin-shkreli-intentionally-burn-kalobios-shorts.asp ....not saying it's going to happen just funny looking back at what s/p would appease some and then the factors that Sweedee brought up and where we are today. Gotta love Mike C. Interesting visual
I had to look at this again Joey. I was wondering what time frame it was, daily, weekly? NO, it a 6 day chart? a 15 min. holt chit batman. Nice breakaway Gap. |
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