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Post by awesomo on Jun 1, 2019 10:26:29 GMT -5
As bad as dilution is for shareholders, the debt from Deerfield has been a strain on the company for years and Deerfield has certainly taken advantage of their leverage. Any sort of financing coming from a weak financial position is not going to be favorable. Regardless of what happens, the only thing that truly matters is that consistent revenue increases and increases faster than the trajectory we have been at. As of now, that relies completely on Afrezza sales.
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Post by cedafuntennis on Jun 1, 2019 11:53:06 GMT -5
If you know things about management I think we all have a right to know since we all have thousands of our hard earned dollars wrapped up in this stock..Wtf is going on? I do not know things about Mannkind’s management. I was assuming you meant all the stuff on StockTwits about Mike needing to go, and there’s people on here that have that same opinion. I don’t spend very much time thinking about that nor do I have any idea who they would get to replaced him. I hate even going there. It’s performance-based I believe. But there are many willing to wait another six months and see how everything plays out. There are people calling for his head and a ground swelling to bring Matt back. But I have no idea if that could become reality:-) And I don’t really think it’s important, what’s important is getting Afrezza making strides, or get it into the right hands that allow it to flourish. Nate mentioned partnership or sale. But is looking to the next six months and then will summarize again. What??? Bring Matt P. back? That guy doesn't have the foresight necessary to lead a youth backgammon team. He took the company too the brink of BK while he lined his pockets. The moment he replaced Mike is when I will be all out after 7 years. I understand making mistakes while we learn but I never understand making stupid moves twice.
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Post by sportsrancho on Jun 1, 2019 11:58:39 GMT -5
She just wanted to know the gossip, means nothing. People are upset and grabbing at solutions. People dream of all different kinds of scenarios I just can’t worry about it, we don’t have any control over it, and I try to make it a point to only worry about the things I can personally help change.
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Post by sweedee79 on Jun 1, 2019 12:43:28 GMT -5
She just wanted to know the gossip, means nothing. People are upset and grabbing at solutions. People dream of all different kinds of scenarios I just can’t worry about it, we don’t have any control over it, and I try to make it a point to only worry about the things I can personally help change. Gossip??? I could care less about gossip.. only care about truth..
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Post by morfu on Jun 1, 2019 12:47:17 GMT -5
As bad as dilution is for shareholders, the debt from Deerfield has been a strain on the company for years and Deerfield has certainly taken advantage of their leverage. Any sort of financing coming from a weak financial position is not going to be favorable. Regardless of what happens, the only thing that truly matters is that consistent revenue increases and increases faster than the trajectory we have been at. As of now, that relies completely on Afrezza sales. Dept is always a "strain" as you put it, but any other idea, like having a partner, "sharing" technology or "dillute to be debt free" (which still makes no sense and management should be hold responsible until they can explain their actions last December!) is far worse for the long term value. Unless of course the company would not survive otherwise.. but let`s say it clearly, any time one of these alternatives is used, the management has failed to represent the interest of the company!
However, if you only have a short term gain in mind like sports (it was you saying that you mainly deal with options, right?), your interest does not fully align with that of the company.
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Post by sportsrancho on Jun 1, 2019 12:51:19 GMT -5
She just wanted to know the gossip, means nothing. People are upset and grabbing at solutions. People dream of all different kinds of scenarios I just can’t worry about it, we don’t have any control over it, and I try to make it a point to only worry about the things I can personally help change. Gossip??? I could care less about gossip.. only care about truth.. I told you the truth about what people are saying or gossiping about. You seemed to want to know that’s all I could do.
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Post by sportsrancho on Jun 1, 2019 12:54:00 GMT -5
As bad as dilution is for shareholders, the debt from Deerfield has been a strain on the company for years and Deerfield has certainly taken advantage of their leverage. Any sort of financing coming from a weak financial position is not going to be favorable. Regardless of what happens, the only thing that truly matters is that consistent revenue increases and increases faster than the trajectory we have been at. As of now, that relies completely on Afrezza sales. Dept is always a "strain" as you put it, but any other idea, like having a partner, "sharing" technology or "dillute to be debt free" (which still makes no sense and management should be hold responsible until they can explain their actions last December!) is far worse for the long term value. Unless of course the company would not survive otherwise.. but let`s say it clearly, any time one of these alternatives is used, the management has failed to represent the interest of the company!
However, if you only have a short term gain in mind like sports (it was you saying that you mainly deal with options, right?), your interest does not fully align with that of the company.
Hey...complete BS. I do not have a short term plan in mind, at the moment I only have a few 2020 options, all of my shares are in my Roth, if I had extra money I just posted I would buy shares, you are so full of it!
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Post by sweedee79 on Jun 1, 2019 12:56:13 GMT -5
Gossip??? I could care less about gossip.. only care about truth.. I told you the truth about what people are saying or gossiping about. You seemed to want to know that’s all I could do. WOW!!!
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Post by peppy on Jun 1, 2019 13:17:23 GMT -5
She just wanted to know the gossip, means nothing. People are upset and grabbing at solutions. People dream of all different kinds of scenarios I just can’t worry about it, we don’t have any control over it, and I try to make it a point to only worry about the things I can personally help change. Gossip??? I could care less about gossip.. only care about truth.. off topic: and off conversation. for fun, "truth isn't truth" this is the chit bag world I see in front of my eyeballs. That said, I am happy to be alive. We are witnesses.
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Post by sweedee79 on Jun 1, 2019 13:27:02 GMT -5
Gossip??? I could care less about gossip.. only care about truth.. off topic: and off conversation. for fun, "truth isn't truth" this is the chit bag world I see in front of my eyeballs. That said, I am happy to be alive. We are witnesses. ♥️U Peppy!!! Yeah.. what's happened is Chit.. that's for sure.. but we ain't done yet!!!
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Post by sportsrancho on Jun 1, 2019 13:30:24 GMT -5
off topic: and off conversation. for fun, "truth isn't truth" this is the chit bag world I see in front of my eyeballs. That said, I am happy to be alive. We are witnesses. ♥️U Peppy!!! Yeah.. what's happened is Chit.. that's for sure.. but we ain't done yet!!! You got that right!😎
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Post by awesomo on Jun 1, 2019 13:58:05 GMT -5
As bad as dilution is for shareholders, the debt from Deerfield has been a strain on the company for years and Deerfield has certainly taken advantage of their leverage. Any sort of financing coming from a weak financial position is not going to be favorable. Regardless of what happens, the only thing that truly matters is that consistent revenue increases and increases faster than the trajectory we have been at. As of now, that relies completely on Afrezza sales. Dept is always a "strain" as you put it, but any other idea, like having a partner, "sharing" technology or "dillute to be debt free" (which still makes no sense and management should be hold responsible until they can explain their actions last December!) is far worse for the long term value. Unless of course the company would not survive otherwise.. but let`s say it clearly, any time one of these alternatives is used, the management has failed to represent the interest of the company!
However, if you only have a short term gain in mind like sports (it was you saying that you mainly deal with options, right?), your interest does not fully align with that of the company.
Having a partner can be extremely beneficial if it is a good partnership. Would you rather have 50% of a $2B+ joint venture or 100% of a $200M company that is not financially stable? And no, my interests are not short term. But you should know that MannKind doesn't have years to get this thing going. That ship has long sailed. Unless of course you are OK with shareholders being completely wiped out for the "good of the company".
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Post by sweedee79 on Jun 1, 2019 14:59:25 GMT -5
Gossip??? I could care less about gossip.. only care about truth.. I told you the truth about what people are saying or gossiping about. You seemed to want to know that’s all I could do. In the past it has seemed you have had some inside information of sorts.. or you seem to know things we don't.. that is what I was asking about.. To find out gossip all you need to do is hang out on ST .. I don't need to ask anyone about that .. it runs rampant.. This discussion is over.. ✌️
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Post by sportsrancho on Jun 1, 2019 15:24:03 GMT -5
I told you the truth about what people are saying or gossiping about. You seemed to want to know that’s all I could do. In the past it has seemed you have had some inside information of sorts.. or you seem to know things we don't.. that is what I was asking about.. To find out gossip all you need to do is hang out on ST .. I don't need to ask anyone about that .. it runs rampant.. This discussion is over.. ✌️ I see:-) yes long ago in the past my girlfriends son worked at Mannkind but it’s a whole different company now and that’s a good thing.
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Post by lifebreath on Jun 1, 2019 16:29:38 GMT -5
Dept is always a "strain" as you put it, but any other idea, like having a partner, "sharing" technology or "dillute to be debt free" (which still makes no sense and management should be hold responsible until they can explain their actions last December!) is far worse for the long term value. Unless of course the company would not survive otherwise.. but let`s say it clearly, any time one of these alternatives is used, the management has failed to represent the interest of the company!
However, if you only have a short term gain in mind like sports (it was you saying that you mainly deal with options, right?), your interest does not fully align with that of the company.
Having a partner can be extremely beneficial if it is a good partnership. Would you rather have 50% of a $2B+ joint venture or 100% of a $200M company that is not financially stable? And no, my interests are not short term. But you should know that MannKind doesn't have years to get this thing going. That ship has long sailed. Unless of course you are OK with shareholders being completely wiped out for the "good of the company". I Am in complete agreement we need a partner! It is not like our management is minor leaguers playing against major leaguers. We have six year old t-ball players trying to compete Against major leaguers. A partnership or sale of the company must happen for Afrezza to survive
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