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Post by harryx1 on Nov 17, 2020 14:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by mnkdfann on Nov 17, 2020 14:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by boca1girl on Nov 17, 2020 16:24:43 GMT -5
Wonder why the 12 unit cartridge is not listed? Titration packs? |
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Post by matt on Nov 17, 2020 16:36:35 GMT -5
Wonder why the 12 unit cartridge is not listed? Titration packs? It might have something to do with expected turnover. If the 4 and 8 unit boxes move the fastest, and this can be readily determined from the detailed IMS data, then Amazon may be limiting the products available at first to avoid holding slow-moving inventory. Amazon, unlike some of its affiliates, prefers to deal only in fast moving items that are in high demand and gladly leaves the slow moving items to others. While Amazon affiliates usually make slower moving items available through their shared order gateway that approach is not practical when pharmacy licenses are involved. Rest assured that if Amazon sees an opportunity to move enough of the 12 unit boxes and titration packs to make a profit, they will not let the opportunity pass. |
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Post by agedhippie on Nov 17, 2020 23:02:01 GMT -5
Pricing without insurance is $336.60 includes 32% savings with Prime for 90 x 4u, and $672.30 includes 28% savings with Prime for 90 x 8u.
More generally I think this is probably good if you have bad prescription coverage because of the discount, otherwise my existing cover is better. Then there is the issue that insurers like to force as much traffic as they can manage through their in-house pharmacy. For example I have to use Express Scripts own pharmacy for insulin because that's how the coverage works (I can get two specially approved one month fills per year locally).
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Post by nylefty on Nov 17, 2020 23:04:42 GMT -5
Wonder why the 12 unit cartridge is not listed? Titration packs?  |
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Post by nylefty on Nov 17, 2020 23:27:00 GMT -5
The Amazon prices are considerably higher than those at brick and mortar drugstores for those without insurance coverage. Amazon is asking $1344.60 for a 180 Titration pack, while CVS, Walgreens, Walmart, etc. are selling the same pack for $1045.70 with a GoodRx discount card.
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Post by mango on Nov 18, 2020 8:21:12 GMT -5
Here’s the prices without insurance. The only decent deal is the 4U.
4U Price is $496.80. Join Prime and save 32%
8U Price is $938.70. Join Prime and save 28%.
8U - 12U Price is $2,284.20. Join Prime and save 26%. Price for 1 Box of 180 Cartridge
Titration Pack 4U-8U Price is $1,434.60. Join Prime and save 30%
Titration Pack 4U-8U-12U Price is $1,877.40. Join Prime and save 28%.
The Prime prescription savings benefit is not insurance. It is included with your Prime membership at no additional cost. This benefit provides savings on the price you pay for prescription medications if you do not have or are not using insurance. You can receive a discount of up to 80% on generic and 40% on brand name prescription medications. This program is administered by Inside Rx, LLC.
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Post by sayhey24 on Nov 18, 2020 8:22:35 GMT -5
Pricing without insurance is $336.60 includes 32% savings with Prime for 90 x 4u, and $672.30 includes 28% savings with Prime for 90 x 8u. More generally I think this is probably good if you have bad prescription coverage because of the discount, otherwise my existing cover is better. Then there is the issue that insurers like to force as much traffic as they can manage through their in-house pharmacy. For example I have to use Express Scripts own pharmacy for insulin because that's how the coverage works (I can get two specially approved one month fills per year locally). I am not sure why anyone would buy with Amazon when they can buy from eagle www.eaglepharmacy.com/drug/afrezza-rI do wonder if anything happened from all the talk a few years back with OneDrop/Amazon/Mannkind |
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Post by mango on Nov 18, 2020 8:35:41 GMT -5
Pricing without insurance is $336.60 includes 32% savings with Prime for 90 x 4u, and $672.30 includes 28% savings with Prime for 90 x 8u. More generally I think this is probably good if you have bad prescription coverage because of the discount, otherwise my existing cover is better. Then there is the issue that insurers like to force as much traffic as they can manage through their in-house pharmacy. For example I have to use Express Scripts own pharmacy for insulin because that's how the coverage works (I can get two specially approved one month fills per year locally). I am not sure why anyone would buy with Amazon when they can buy from eagle www.eaglepharmacy.com/drug/afrezza-rI do wonder if anything happened from all the talk a few years back with OneDrop/Amazon/Mannkind Hey dude I agree. I only see Amazon Pharm being of benefit to those with insurance that can be used through them. Not sure what perks they are giving Prime members who order through them other than free delivery, but I imagine they will have something eventually if they don’t already. Eagle Pharmacy is the way to go without insurance. |
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Post by mango on Nov 18, 2020 8:41:57 GMT -5
Here is the pricing for Afrezza for people without insurance through the Eagle Pharmacy program. Extremely affordable.  |
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Post by mytakeonit on Nov 18, 2020 13:39:19 GMT -5
Thanks dude for the info. Ha! Sounds like we'll have lots of fun playing blackjack together.
But, that's mytakeonit
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Post by agedhippie on Nov 19, 2020 12:48:49 GMT -5
I am not sure why anyone would buy with Amazon when they can buy from eagle www.eaglepharmacy.com/drug/afrezza-rI do wonder if anything happened from all the talk a few years back with OneDrop/Amazon/Mannkind Hey dude I agree. I only see Amazon Pharm being of benefit to those with insurance that can be used through them. Not sure what perks they are giving Prime members who order through them other than free delivery, but I imagine they will have something eventually if they don’t already. Eagle Pharmacy is the way to go without insurance. While Eagle Pharmacy is the way to go for out of pocket Afrezza my bet would be that Amazon has better visibility. |
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Post by seanismorris on Nov 19, 2020 13:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by agedhippie on Nov 20, 2020 14:48:22 GMT -5
Mannkind are taking a much lower margin on the Eagle route than the normal pharmacy route. This is because they are offsetting the distribution (probably) and PBM fees. If they were to cut the list price to the same as the Eagle price they would a) be in serious trouble because of the loss of profit (why Afrezza is priced as high as it is), and b) all the PBMs will jump on the price AND want their negotiated cut. The fix is either to do this as a capped offer like Eagle pharmacy and the other insulin makers all you can eat offers, or to spin up an entire new brand like Lilly did with HUmalog. In the Lilly case the PBMs are contracted for Humalog and the Humalog GoodRx price is $327 for a pack of 5 pens, or $126 for the generic pens. The insulin for those two pens is literally the same, it comes straight out of Lilly's insulin plant in Indianapolis, only the label on the pen differs. However, the branded pens are sold by Lilly, and the generic are sold by a Lilly subsidiary company in a theoretically arms length transaction. The fact that LLY owns both companies and the source is convenient. In Europe it's all branded because there are no PBMs, the state handles that, and so you don't need to play these games. Plus it's a lot cheaper because the insurer is the state and is also paying the bill so there is no middleman (commercial insurer and PBM) raking off a cut. |
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