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Post by factspls88 on Mar 9, 2022 10:55:36 GMT -5
Mannkind should be requesting government purchase of Afrezza to send to Urkraine. I hear on news reports that Ukrainians are in need of insulin. As we all know, Afrezza requires no needles and no refrigeration, both of which are in short supply in this conflict.
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Post by sr71 on Mar 9, 2022 11:59:46 GMT -5
Great idea - As resourceful and determined as Ukrainians have proven to be, they'd have Afrezza figured out in 5 minutes!
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Post by uvula on Mar 9, 2022 12:03:09 GMT -5
Mnkd has never done the study showing it does not need refrigeration and cannot make that claim. And it is expensive. And it is not a great time for a patient to change the treatment they are used to.
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Post by sayhey24 on Mar 9, 2022 13:22:40 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, MNKD donated afrezza and got it shipped out of Florida to Puerto Rico when they had that big hurricane a few years back. I don't think they refrigerated it.
The logistics with Ukraine could be pretty challenging. You couldn't even air drop it out the back of a C130 without invading the air space which Russia would probably take as a U.S. invasion.
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Post by Thundersnow on Mar 9, 2022 13:40:18 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, MNKD donated afrezza and got it shipped out of Florida to Puerto Rico when they had that big hurricane a few years back. I don't think they refrigerated it. The logistics with Ukraine could be pretty challenging. You couldn't even air drop it out the back of a C130 without invading the air space which Russia would probably take as a U.S. invasion. Puerto Rico and UKRAINE are 2 different situations. The Ukraine Gov't will have to approve Afrezza. PR is part of the US so that was an easy solution. Ukraine is totally different. There is no way MNKD will get it approved.
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Post by akemp3000 on Mar 9, 2022 13:57:06 GMT -5
Sad for Ukraine diabetics there's no path to get Afrezza. When the need for insulin means life or death, the regulatory obstacles should be removed even if only on an emergency basis...like when you're under attack and there's no refrigeration storage. It's understood this won't be happen but sad.
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Post by uvula on Mar 9, 2022 14:00:28 GMT -5
They need food, water, and medicine.
Y'all realize it is very cold there. Refrigeration is one of the few things they don't need.
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Post by sayhey24 on Mar 9, 2022 14:33:56 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, MNKD donated afrezza and got it shipped out of Florida to Puerto Rico when they had that big hurricane a few years back. I don't think they refrigerated it. The logistics with Ukraine could be pretty challenging. You couldn't even air drop it out the back of a C130 without invading the air space which Russia would probably take as a U.S. invasion. Puerto Rico and UKRAINE are 2 different situations. The Ukraine Gov't will have to approve Afrezza. PR is part of the US so that was an easy solution. Ukraine is totally different. There is no way MNKD will get it approved. Approved, by who? The last I checked Ukraine is in a war fighting for their lives. I doubt their ministry of health could careless about whether afrezza is officially approved. As of yesterday they are reporting 61 hospitals are out of action. www.reuters.com/world/over-60-ukrainian-hospitals-out-action-after-russian-attacks-health-minister-2022-03-08/ If a C130 could drop a bunch of pallets out the back I am sure the Ukrainians would figure out a way to use it approved or not. The problem is the C130 would most likely get shot down as soon as it entered Ukrainian air space by the Russian's air defense systems.
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Post by factspls88 on Mar 9, 2022 15:18:16 GMT -5
If the US/NATO can get military equipment into Ukraine, surely there's a way they can get medical supplies into the country.
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Post by BlueCat on Mar 9, 2022 15:50:05 GMT -5
They could also see if one of the neighboring countries recognizes us approvals and deliver it there where refugees are coming in. No idea what rules international humanitarian missions must follow - the host country I assume? Shouldn't be that hard to review Ukrainian law to see if there any agreements people can sign to waive ....
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Post by boca1girl on Mar 9, 2022 16:09:36 GMT -5
In a time of war, I don’t think a humanitarian donation of critical medicines would be denied if they already had FDA approval. Distribution and instruction on use would be the challenge.
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Post by sayhey24 on Mar 9, 2022 16:27:37 GMT -5
Maybe the Red Cross could buy 10k boxes from insulinsavings.com and distribute in Poland. I am hoping when Mike goes for the label update he also gets the refrigeration requirements updated on the label.
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Post by sr71 on Mar 9, 2022 17:46:14 GMT -5
In a time of war, I don’t think a humanitarian donation of critical medicines would be denied if they already had FDA approval. Distribution and instruction on use would be the challenge. Good points. Maybe VDEX could have their protocol for Afrezza translated into Ukrainian, to be included in each box of Afrezza being donated.
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Post by mnkdfann on Mar 9, 2022 19:01:14 GMT -5
There are ways to support diabetics in Ukraine, but I do not think that shipping Afrezza is a good one. jdrf.org.uk/news/helping-the-diabetes-community-in-ukraine/www.jdrf.org/blog/2022/03/02/helping-the-diabetes-community-in-ukraine/Please do not attempt to ship supplies or insulin directly into Ukraine, as most normal shipping avenues have been blocked or restricted. All air travel in and out of Ukraine has been suspended due to military activity. The Ukrainian government is doing what it can to assist humanitarian supply convoys at the borders, but it is difficult with multiple checkpoints and military activity preventing shipments from arriving. The last thing we all want is for insulin and supplies to be thrown away because they were not delivered in the right way.We recognise that you may see individuals or organisations on social media asking for insulin or supplies to ship into Ukraine or into surrounding countries where refugees may go. While it is heartbreaking to see these requests, the best way to help these individuals at this time is to provide them with internal country resources to connect them with the closest medical clinic to get what they need.More at links, including ways to support Ukraine.
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Post by lennymnkd on Mar 10, 2022 4:50:43 GMT -5
We can’t get dosing right on main st USA , you want it figured out With bombs dropping in a full blown war ! Come on !
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