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Post by sayhey24 on Mar 16, 2024 8:18:43 GMT -5
Everyone is different and you need to do what you think is best for you and your family. In the case of diabetes guys like Bill from VDex can tell you afrezza first afrezza always based on his clinics experience. Not everyone will listen. Some will disagree. In the case of Covid I think we now know certain things about covid. We know why Fauci was the highest paid federal employee. We understand why research was moved to Wuhan and the Ukraine. We understand that the first thing you want to develop when developing these deadly viruses is a vaccine and how mRNA was used to do this. Here is another "chat" which discusses the pharmaceutical industry corruption which focuses around a discussion on Covid. Is what this guy is saying correct? IDK, probably some but he shares his experiences and how he was attacked - to me sounds like some of our experiences through afrezza history. I think it would be interesting to get Dr. Kory's view on Mango's patent patents.justia.com/patent/20230248722#claims and if clofazimine broadly inhibits coronaviruses including SARS-CoV-2 The "chat" - tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-pierre-kory/
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Post by sayhey24 on Mar 16, 2024 14:37:44 GMT -5
This was just release yesterday. Its another interesting take on the "response". This kind of goes along with what Dr. Kory was saying and I am still thinking it would be worth getting his opinion on Mango's patent. "The National Institutes of Health (NIH) became the principal advocate of lockdown policies, but failed to run high-quality trials of repurposed drugs and non-pharmaceutical interventions." "However, the safety of new drugs should have been prioritized and assessed in a far more detailed and thorough manner. This is especially critical in new technologies like the mRNA vaccines. Beyond a failure to assess safety, the failures regarding vaccines included a lack of transparency on what endpoints were assessed, overstatement of benefits, and an all-out “vaccinate everyone” pressure campaign, including mandates, that undermined informed consent." www.independent.org/pdf/research_articles/2024_03_15_hanke_tlas_covid%20lessons%20learned_final.pdf
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Post by BD on Mar 16, 2024 15:13:28 GMT -5
I've been vaxxed up the ying yang and still had it twice. I assume I would've had it worse had I not been vaxxed, but who knows.
This is the part that scares me, though, from my personal experience. The second time I had COVID, I tested two days after I noticed symptoms and got a negative. A couple of days later, however, it was positive, and then for the next two weeks.
So I guess tests are great to confirm a positive, not as much to confirm a negative.
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Post by akemp3000 on Mar 16, 2024 15:46:37 GMT -5
Never vaxxed and never had COVID as has been true for at least ten close friends. Others, including family members in the healthcare profession who were vaxxed, placed intense pressure on me to get vaxxed, have all had COVID at least twice and some more. All repeat the mantra, I'm glad I got vaxxed. All of this is of course anecdotal and isn't of value other than to share personal experience. BTW, the reason I didn't get vaxxed was because of a concern that it might be problematic with a history of a serious blood clot many years ago, not because I anticipated the vaccines to be so deficient. As has been said, who really knows? A big frustration is that a serious public debate by experts on the vaccines, crime, climate and more will never be allowed.
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Post by hellodolly on Mar 16, 2024 15:55:55 GMT -5
Don't you think someone with some money was willing to partner? Don't you think Uncle Sam was providing significant funding for Operation Warp Speed. I can tell you first hand OWS was more than a D&PS. In fact several of my family members worked near 7 days a week for a year+. The sad thing is all three of the projects they worked on failed but they got funding. Here is an article about Emergent. They got $628M on a no-bid contract and their work failed. I bet for $100M we could have loaded on Technosphere, Clofazimine and made ClofoCovid DPI. What I do remember Mike saying during Covid was they looked at it and saw it more of a distraction. Yet, they filed this patent and now we have MNKD-101 which we are 100% funding. www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-10-29/inside-operation-warp-speed-s-18-billion-sprint-for-a-vaccineEven if ClofoCovid DPI got rejected it sure seems it would have paid for most of the MNKD-101 development and moved its development along a lot faster. At least now we know MNKD was doing something during Covid and even filed a patent. The good news is SARs is not going away so maybe we can still rebrand MNKD-101 for SARs based viruses. As far as the mRNA, I am not a big fan. I have a lot of friends getting all kinds of cancers. Is it related IDK but its weird. I also know I got 1 booster and then after that got myocarditis. I have no doubt it was from that "vaccine" which is not really a "vaccine". Heck, everyone I know who got that "vaccine" got Covid and usually multiple times. After doing some research on it, I would never ever take another mRNA based injection. I found this an interesting "chat" on mRNA. Is this guy right? Probably at least partially I would say tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-bret-weinstein/I’ve got 5 or 6 jabs, most recently last October. Never had COVID once. I swear by it, as I have noticed i haven’t been sick in a few years. I can’t remember the last time a had the flu or for that matter a cold. I don’t wear masks, haven’t since early 2021. I feel healthy as a horse, I don’t take any medication for anything. My feeling is this worry about vaccines is complete nonsense, if they recommend another jab I’ll take one… I'm in the club of having gotten the vaccine (JnJ, Adenovirus vector vaccine) and popped positive two times. My wife got the same vaccine, later followed up with mRNA and has never popped positive (SMFH). It was one giant experiment, as I said. My bet is on the lipid nano-particles that carry the mRNA as the root cause of the many SAEs. Those end up going into the lymphatic system after they deliver the mRNA. There is a Pub-Med article on LNPs that I'm too lazy today to go find but, I've read it a few times and have used it as a source for other works. Any deaths that are reported as linked to COVID vaccines are in the VAERS data base (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System). Very bulky to navigate bit, every death reportedly associated with any vaccine ever approved is in the data base. What is amazing is the number of deaths reportdly associated with mRNA vaccines and all the other vaccines combined since they've kept records, doh! You may not want to look. For the hardcore folks: Total Deaths: 21,936 COVID Vaccines Combined (JnJ, PFE, MRNA) All Deaths (Every vaccine death reported to VAERS since 1966?): 24,209 About 87% of all deaths are reported to be associated with the COVID vaccines. But, to put that into better perspective, the mortality rate is roughly .00000001% JnJ - 1,913 PFE - 10,296 MRNA - 9,651
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Post by mpg54 on Mar 16, 2024 16:08:02 GMT -5
I’ve got 5 or 6 jabs, most recently last October. Never had COVID once. I swear by it, as I have noticed i haven’t been sick in a few years. I can’t remember the last time a had the flu or for that matter a cold. I don’t wear masks, haven’t since early 2021. I feel healthy as a horse, I don’t take any medication for anything. My feeling is this worry about vaccines is complete nonsense, if they recommend another jab I’ll take one… I'm in the club of having gotten the vaccine (JnJ, Adenovirus vector vaccine) and popped positive two times. My wife got the same vaccine, later followed up with mRNA and has never popped positive (SMFH). It was one giant experiment, as I said. My bet is on the lipid nano-particles that carry the mRNA as the root cause of the many SAEs. Those end up going into the lymphatic system after they deliver the mRNA. There is a Pub-Med article on LNPs that I'm too lazy today to go find but, I've read it a few times and have used it as a source for other works. Any deaths that are reported as linked to COVID vaccines are in the VAERS data base (Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System). Very bulky to navigate bit, every death reportedly associated with any vaccine ever approved is in the data base. What is amazing is the number of deaths reportdly associated with mRNA vaccines and all the other vaccines combined since they've kept records, doh! You may not want to look. For the hardcore folks: Total Deaths: 21,936 COVID Vaccines Combined (JnJ, PFE, MRNA) All Deaths (Every vaccine death reported to VAERS since 1966?): 24,209 About 87% of all deaths are reported to be associated with the COVID vaccines. But, to put that into better perspective, the mortality rate is roughly .00000001% JnJ - 1,913 PFE - 10,296 MRNA - 9,651 That mortality rate works for me, again if they recommend another jab I’ll do it. I’m going to do an hour on the treadmill today and I go at a decent clip, until my health changes drastically vaccines are just an assist to avoid something I don’t want. Nothing is 100%, but I think they certainly help. I also do the flu shot every year.
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Post by uvula on Mar 16, 2024 16:10:31 GMT -5
Hellodolly, This is a very distorted way of looking at things. This is equivalent to saying the percentage of deaths reportedly associated with food is 100%.
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Post by hellodolly on Mar 16, 2024 17:59:14 GMT -5
Hellodolly, This is a very distorted way of looking at things. This is equivalent to saying the percentage of deaths reportedly associated with food is 100%. I gave the ratio of deaths to shots administered = ~.000001%. I'm drawing on the data and not making any conclusions as to the deaths associated with the vaccines. But, for comparison, look at the polio vaccine deaths compared to mRNA. I think they are one of the closest in total shots administered and then draw a conclusion on a more fitting comparable. How does the mortality rate of ~.000001% equal 100%? In the end, the vaccines were deemed safe enough, thus widely administered. I still go back to the LNPs as the root cause to the SAEs.
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Post by uvula on Mar 16, 2024 18:11:12 GMT -5
I was referring to this statement of yours: "About 87% of all deaths are reported to be associated with the COVID vaccines."
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Post by letitride on Mar 17, 2024 2:00:36 GMT -5
Having had COVID before they had a name for it I never got Vaxed. Have had COVID twice since with fewer complications than the first time. I have never tested positive for COVID but managed to give it to my wife who did test positive twice (SMH). I spent three days in the hospital from a yellow fever vaccine once so I can say there are always outliers to any vaccine. Hellodolly I to suspect LNPs based on other research I have been doing on mRNA. Bottomline I would never advice anyone not to VAX and would probably have VAXed myself had I not been infected prior to a VAX.
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Post by hellodolly on Mar 17, 2024 7:13:34 GMT -5
I was referring to this statement of yours: "About 87% of all deaths are reported to be associated with the COVID vaccines." That is a fact. Of all the vaccine related deaths reported to VAERS, (polio, dDPT, MMR, mRNA, etc.) the COVID vaccines account for 87% of the total deaths. One has to look further to see that billions of vaccines have been administered in the US since the reporting system began collecting data in the 1960s and we see they are overall, safe and effective. But, I also wonder why the COVID vaccines, specifically, administered over a 2.5 year period, 2020-2022/2023 (not since the 60s), still account for 87% of all vaccine related deaths reported to the VAERS system? It is skewed and one has to ask if they can do better and why? My answer to why was the deposit of the LNPs into the lymphatic system. Why LNPs? Might be the ingredients, such as polyethelyne glycol aka PEG (chemical compound mixture) is just one example. The argument from the mRNA community has been that this compound is used as an excipient in laxatives and other medicinal uses and already in our bodies. Yet, it is also can be used for industrial, chemical, biological and commercial uses, i.e.; radiator fluid, soap bubbles, hydrogels, surfactants, and more. I'm pro vaccine. Like I said I took the JnJ shot as I've been following this space for decades and felt they were manufactured with more research already behind them. We all eventually witnessed what the experts have been saying would one day likely happen, (based on history) a pandemic and the outbreak of Disease X. The mRNA vaccines have been in trials for a very long time. It just so happened (wink-wink) that the PHIII trial turned out to be a global pandemic. PS - For over a decade, the military was not looking at mRNA vaccines and was investing in something different but, that got kiboshed with delays by the FDA.
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