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Post by ronw77077 on Aug 7, 2024 16:42:03 GMT -5
Now that Q2 is done, I thought I would take a stab at looking further out. I have removed the Clofazimine I erroneously included in my last long term projection. However, I now make assumptions for PEDS revenue. Of course, I have no real basis for quantifying the timing or amount of such PEDS revenue so I have used a WAG of 10% of the market in 2025 and 20% in 2026 so that we can see the prospective impact. I presume we may see revenue from the expanded UTHR revenue in 2026 but have not put forth any numbers for such. All observations and thoughts welcomed. 2023 Actual Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Yr Afrezza 12.4 13.5 13.5 15.5 54.9 V-Go 5.1 4.8 4.5 4.7 19.1 Tyvaso 11.3 11.2 13.1 21.0 56.7 Coll/Svcs 11.7 19.1 20.2 17.2 68.2 Total Rev. 40.5 48.6 51.2 58.5 198.8 2024 Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Yr 2025 2026
Afrezza 14.4 16.3 18.7 21.6 71.0 88.8 125.0 PEDS 150.0 300.0 V-Go 4.3 4.5 4.4 4.3 17.5 17.5 17.5 Tyvaso 22.7 25.6 29.2 33.6 111.0 155.5 217.6 Coll/Svcs 24.8 26.0 29.6 34.1 114.5 150.0 159.0 Tyvaso-Teton Total Rev. 66.2 72.4 82.0 93.5 314.1 561.7 819.2 WITHOUT PEDS 411.7 2025 Tyvaso assumptions for 2025 - based on $30 mil increase in sales each qtr Assume Afrezza base sales increase 25% over 2024
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Post by ktim on Aug 7, 2024 20:45:03 GMT -5
Your 2024 seems optimistic but possible. Peds estimates seem a bit disjoint from reality. The one chart MNKD showed with anticipated contribution from peds is maybe $60M at best in 2026.
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Post by prcgorman2 on Aug 8, 2024 16:10:36 GMT -5
Using $60M from pediatric sales for Afrezza in 2025 yields $148.8M YE and Tyvaso DPI $155.5M YE (not incl C&S).
What does the EPS look like?
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Post by ktim on Aug 8, 2024 16:45:08 GMT -5
You mean 2026 instead of 2025?
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Post by prcgorman2 on Aug 8, 2024 16:57:03 GMT -5
No. More proof I should slow down and read more carefully. Your post said 2026, and I read 2025. My bad.
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Post by ktim on Aug 8, 2024 17:20:24 GMT -5
Maybe a Freudian slip I'd love your version to come to pass.
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Post by Clement on Aug 26, 2024 15:37:36 GMT -5
I would like to guess at full year 2024. First, here's my estimate for Q3 2024:
Royalties 29 Coll & Svcs 27 Afrezza 18 VGo 4
Total $78M
For Q4 I will continue the theme of adding $6M. So my guess for Q4 is $84M.
Adding up the 4 quarters in 2024, we get 66 + 72 + 78 + 84 = $300M for the full year 2024.
Notably, that's more than 50% increase over full year 2023. And that's without any kick from peds, clofaz, ninte, or India.
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Post by ktim on Aug 26, 2024 17:44:29 GMT -5
Coll & Svcs might underperform compared to recent quarters.
The current "consensus" from analysts is just $280M. I think reasonable chance revenue will be closer to your number than to $280M.
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