Junk Science?

[Deleted]

I'm uneasy about the pushing of Afrezza via videos on Facebook, Twitter, etc.  It places it in the realm of Pop junk science, like legalized marijuana, medical marijuana and global warming.

[_neil]

I am in the same camp. All pumping and field data should come from Mannkind or Sanofi. Anything else make me uneasy. I might be a heretic for saying this but I deeply distrust users being product evangelists. This includes afrezzauser too. It's noted everywhere that he has no financial incentive but I would very much prefer that he had a financial incentive (and that he declared it publicly).

[_neil]

I can't let the examples you choose slide though.. Global warming is not junk science. Also, how dare you besmirch the good bud? I am a believer in its healing powers

[cybergym66]

Feb 6, 2015 15:31:22 GMT -5 _neil said:

I am in the same camp. All pumping and field data should come from Mannkind or Sanofi. Anything else make me uneasy. I might be a heretic for saying this but I deeply distrust users being product evangelists. This includes afrezzauser too. It's noted everywhere that he has no financial incentive but I would very much prefer that he had a financial incentive (and that he declared it publicly).

Wrong!  Diabetics should be talking about Afrezza since they are the ones benefiting from it!  Whether Afrezza succeeds or fails will depend on them so they need to due their DD on Afrezza and that means discussing it with those who are taking it.  Afrezzuser was in the trials, spoke at the AdCom and is the PERFECT person to discuss how much better his life is with Afrezza!  PERIOD!

[liane]

If global warming is not junk science, then why is it so ridiculously cold here? Ever notice nobody calls it "global warming" anymore; it's now "climate change". Good grief!

[ezrasfund]

To GBS's admonishment about wrestling with a pig I now feel compelled to add Mark Twain's remark.

"Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

[_neil]

Liane.. I haven't been on this board long enough and don't know if you are joking. I hope you are.
Just in case you were serious, I feel I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that global warming is climate change. Climate change manifests itself globally. Weather is a _local_ phenomenon that will touch extremities on both ends due to the global phenomenon of climate change.

Just to clarify my opinion on afrezzauser - I am glad he is doing what he's doing. I would prefer a diverse user base and not a single voice singing A's praise. Until we hit that critical mass, I would prefer the companies (and preferably Endos in established journals) do the talking.

[liane]

Sorry poorneil, I was half joking. I do know the difference, but I also think the "science" and the government are more alarmist than they should be. That's all I will say here as we really are supposed to be discussing MNKD etc.

[bradleysbest]

I will trust Sanofi & their advertising team to get the job done!

[alcc]

Feb 6, 2015 15:50:14 GMT -5 liane said:

Sorry poorneil, I was half joking. I do know the difference, but I also think the "science" and the government are more alarmist than they should be. That's all I will say here as we really are supposed to be discussing MNKD etc.

Liane, with due respect, for any non-climate scientist to call global warming (or climate change if you wish) junk science or alarmist is no different from Adam F--stein calling Afrezza junk science and Alfred Mann a fraud.

Yes, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. But then so is Adam F--stein. 

[spiro]

I didn't know Al Gore had spies on this message board. That damn Global warming has been chasing all those Canadians to Florida for the past 50 years or more. Spiro can't wait for Global warming to actually start happening to alleviate the winter traffic in South Florida. BTW, it was a freezing 57 degrees in South Fl. this morning. Spiro had to wear his heavy winter clothing when he went out for breakfast at his favorite non-English speaking restaurant. Three eggs with cheese, 5 slices of bacon, grits, Cuban toast and Cuban coffee and they had the nerve to charge me $4.95. The waitress looked at me like I was crazy when I told her, You gotta go buyo uno sharro of Mankindo witho your tipa.

Spiro here

[bradleysbest]

Funny stuff Spiro!!! Did not know you were Cubano.....LOL

[savzak]

I try to stay on topic on this board but since I didn't start this discussion and since I see an open door, I'm walking through it.

I'm a climate change skeptic. It's not so much that I don't think carbon emissions can have an effect on the climate. I suppose they can. But the science is largely funded by the government and institutional interests who have an interest in seeing climate change on the front page. It's been well documented that it's been manipulated. And the future effects have not and can not be quantified. We're just suppose to yield however much of our humanity and economy our great leaders tell us is necessary to avoid the undefined and unknowable point of planetary devastation.

I don't trust governments. By convincing us that normal civilized human life is "endangering the planet", governments gain almost immeasurable control over us. They don't attempt to quantify the effect that we humans have on the climate by living civilized lives. They merely assert that there is an effect and therefore we have to do what they tell us to do in order to save the planet. And as usual, the good old U.S.A. needs to bend over and take it despite the fact that the reductions they want to impose constitute a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of the world, most of which isn't doing a thing but increasing emissions.

For a clarifying perspective, think of the debt, all $18T and growing. With the debt, the roles are reversed. Concerned individuals are working hard to alert the public and persuade the government that the deficit spending has got to stop. It's a "ticking time bomb". Does that sound familiar? Does that sound like the global warming argument. "Carbon emissions represent a ticking time bomb for the health of the planet." The difference is that the federal government gains power by virtue of deficit spending. They have no interest in fixing that ticking time bomb.

The ticking time bomb of the debt empowers them so they avoid any debate about it.

The supposed ticking time bomb of fossil fuel use empowers us. Doing something about it empowers them, so they inflame our fears to convince us to let them have the power to control our activities.

We won't stop them from spending our children's future away but we give them the power to stop us from using an incandescent light bulb.

American society desperately needs to wake up, in my opinion.

"I solemnly swear to stay on topic in this forum until I don't."

[spiro]

In my previous life before retirement, I taught science for 35 years. The Global warming fiction starting showing up in the core curriculum during my last 4 or 5 years. I had an easy solution, scissors.

[gomnkd]

George Carlin has given the final word

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NL8HP1WzbDk