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Post by savzak on Apr 22, 2015 20:19:24 GMT -5
It's been great here but I've concluded that the poisons and viruses have infiltrated. I wish I had a suggestion for how to return to, and then protect, what we had; but I don't.
The only way I know to establish and ensure a trustworthy group for interacting about Mannkind is to find a few folks you trust and create an email goup. I was fortunate enough to be included in such a group several years ago and it's still going strong.
Still, it saddens me to see this wonderful board in the early stages of Yahoo cancer.
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Post by liane on Apr 22, 2015 20:39:38 GMT -5
savzak,
It's a fine line. We've always maintained a policy of allowing anyone to join as long as their posts are respectful and hopefully contribute to the general knowledge. That said, if we censor every off-comment or lock every thread that drifts a bit, we become too heavy-handed.
Certainly, we could have a closed board, where new members must be approved. or we could ban everyone that does not contribute or says something we disagree with. But we then become closed to new blood and new ideas.
It's a very popular stock right now, and that attracts a lot of new members - some good, some bad. We try to subtly and not-so-subtly dissuade the bad apples. But it's not always easy to nip things in the bud. It would help if our good members would not get so riled up and respond to nonsense posts (it makes my job harder teasing apart the good from the bad within the threads).
So hang in there, and by all means let the mods know if any poster is way out of line. Thanks!
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Post by BD on Apr 22, 2015 20:45:09 GMT -5
savzak, There's a thin line between protecting the qualities we've always appreciated about this board and becoming censors / board Nazis. Much of the time, the community here works together nicely, on its own, to respectfully counter the types of posting you've characterized as "poisons and viruses." Sometimes, the staff steps in to make certain adjustments.
Remember that the problem with YMB is there is zero accountability and zero ammunition against trolls and other forms of disruptive posters. We have a bit more power here, but it's not always all that obvious when and how it should best be applied. The staff tends to not act unilaterally or impetuously when an issue is on the serious side, but rather strives for a consensus.
So, in a nutshell, please don't write the board's obituary just yet. We may all be a bit more resilient than you give us credit for.
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Post by savzak on Apr 22, 2015 20:53:52 GMT -5
Liane, I hope you know that I meant to imply no comment whatsoever on you or any moderator. You've all been terrific, and I appreciate your efforts and good judgement. You all, at least to the same degree as the body of regular posters, have made this board the great source that it is. But as you say, this is an open board. As such, your dedication and abilities as mods can ony reach so far.
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Post by bobw on Apr 22, 2015 21:01:40 GMT -5
I kind of agree with savak, but I would not have catagorized it as poisons and viruses. My problem is that there are too many posts stating the obvious or not adding any new information, which is worse than going off topic. I no longer have time read even half of the new posts.
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Post by ezrasfund on Apr 22, 2015 21:12:36 GMT -5
If you think someone is sounding like a fool or a troll it is best just to not engage them at all. It is bad enough to waste time reading idiotic posts on insider sales, buyouts, SNY not promoting Afrezza, and the dissolution of the partnership, but responding to refute this nonsense is really just taking the bait.
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Post by rockstarrick on Apr 22, 2015 21:17:42 GMT -5
I can only speak for myself. I usually log in to proboards for my evening cool down period, I don't often post, just read and enjoy the serenity not found at YMB. It is very nice to be able to read completely positive and respectful threads loaded with great information and respectful responses. Great job to the moderators and everyone who contributes all the great information. Thanks Rock
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Post by mnholdem on Apr 22, 2015 21:24:46 GMT -5
Growing pains.
One of the features I've come to appreciate is the NEW flag, which saves me having to open threads only to discover nothing's been added to the discussion. However, I do agree that the drastic increase in membership is resulting in many more posts and quite a bit of repetition of old information. I try to keep in mind that there may be new members who aren't fully read up on Afrezza and are here because they've heard this board is the place to get good information.
At least I hope that's what the reputation of this forum is...maybe it's just an invasion of spiro's fans, admirers and groupies.
To savzak's point, though, if there are "infiltrators" spreading FUD in an attempt to try to persuade investors into selling their shares, this board will prove to be a tough sell.
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Post by vestful on Apr 22, 2015 22:14:07 GMT -5
This board is moderated very well. Maybe people like me who refer to the resource constantly and don't contribute has a negative impact because it allows everyone. However, you could argue that it provides a level of support where there are very few for the quiet retail investor. There are more investors like me than you can imagine and this board feeds our support for a product,stock, and medicine that has more potential than most. Have been long for about 5 years and will continue. Just wish I would have found this resource sooner. Always have bad apples on an apple tree. Had an orchard as a kid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 22:49:49 GMT -5
It's been great here but I've concluded that the poisons and viruses have infiltrated. I wish I had a suggestion for how to return to, and then protect, what we had; but I don't. The only way I know to establish and ensure a trustworthy group for interacting about Mannkind is to find a few folks you trust and create an email goup. I was fortunate enough to be included in such a group several years ago and it's still going strong. Still, it saddens me to see this wonderful board in the early stages of Yahoo cancer. I would beg to differ. While I rarely comment. I feel that this group is the Benz so to speak of MNKD discussion boards. Lots of great info and insight. Granted it does time to sort through. Considerably higher qualiry that YMB. With that being said. YMB has some great users as well. Just a lot more garbage to shift through. PS If you do start an email group. Very interested.
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Post by lynn on Apr 22, 2015 23:14:03 GMT -5
No offense intended but maybe we can have a sub board for all our favorite posters that seem to have gone silent ( for the most part ) since we've had this influx of Newbies. How about having it be read only to anyone who is not a part of that group? It could be the pre AdCom crew that was here , or even the pre CRL . You all know who you are more than myself . I'm just looking for a win win solution , if that's possible . I miss their insight & thoughts lately (& also Babas wit ,)) I don't mean for anyone to feel excluded but some folks here deserve their own club & I don't even feel that I should be a part of it . I'd take no offense as long as I could read it ,) Just an idea FWIW , if that option is even possible . GLTA Lynn
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Post by jfl on Apr 22, 2015 23:35:16 GMT -5
Great idea Lynn!
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Post by joeypotsandpans on Apr 23, 2015 3:33:02 GMT -5
If you think someone is sounding like a fool or a troll it is best just to not engage them at all. It is bad enough to waste time reading idiotic posts on insider sales, buyouts, SNY not promoting Afrezza, and the dissolution of the partnership, but responding to refute this nonsense is really just taking the bait. This!!! ^^^^ ....as hard as it may be to not engage out of frustration, you would be better off just ignoring the banter and letting the threads go to the thread graveyard. Of course they will have conversations with the other faceless characters...but the faceless are usually baseless (I realize there are some that are new members who just haven't developed a character so to speak but the others are pretty obvious IMO.)
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Post by liane on Apr 23, 2015 4:47:39 GMT -5
No offense intended but maybe we can have a sub board for all our favorite posters that seem to have gone silent ( for the most part ) since we've had this influx of Newbies. How about having it be read only to anyone who is not a part of that group? It could be the pre AdCom crew that was here , or even the pre CRL . You all know who you are more than myself . I'm just looking for a win win solution , if that's possible . I miss their insight & thoughts lately (& also Babas wit ,)) I don't mean for anyone to feel excluded but some folks here deserve their own club & I don't even feel that I should be a part of it . I'd take no offense as long as I could read it ,) Just an idea FWIW , if that option is even possible . GLTA Lynn Lynn, that is indeed technically feasible; a read-only board, but you would have to request to be a member of the group to be able to post. In fact, any of our forums can have group designations as to who can read and who can post. The downside is the headache it creates for moderators to do approvals etc. New members would have to request to be included. I'm certainly open to the discussion.
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Post by afrizzle on Apr 23, 2015 6:57:21 GMT -5
I prefer the Socratic method of discussion so for me it's not about reading opinions I disagree with,
My preference would be to ban members who recurringly post YMB type nonsense. There are a lot of great critical thnkers and solid researchers here, and I hope we don't lose the tone and tenure of the old board. (I'm still relatively new here so hopefully I get can away with "we" and "old")
Most boards have a report post function where the community can support the moderators (who can't be everywhere) by suggesting posts they may want to take a look at.
It's something to consider.
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