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Post by harryx1 on Jun 23, 2015 9:08:15 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 9:44:15 GMT -5
Crazy world we live in, that in a free country we are bound by medications that aren't as good.
I realize these are initial recommendations and will change over time, but just annoying to see day after day
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Post by savzak on Jun 23, 2015 9:52:04 GMT -5
Crazy world we live in, that in a free country we are bound by medications that aren't as good. I realize these are initial recommendations and will change over time, but just annoying to see day after day fugacity, the meaning of "free" in this context is both relative and amorphous. Though the U.S. is still undoubtedly a "free" country by comparison to much of the rest of the world, it is also far less "free" than it once was. The people and the economy are manipulated by government policy to such a degree that we don't even necessarily realize it. It isn't always obvious, but it is so ubiquitous that the manipulation affects virtually every aspect of our lives. Whether we remain "free" or not depends on ones perspective and the definition of "freedom". |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 9:55:55 GMT -5
It was a figure of speech, sav. I understand what you're saying but it doesn't change the fact that the insurance companies rule the roost here.
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Post by savzak on Jun 23, 2015 10:02:15 GMT -5
Right, and the insurance companies are ruled by...
Everything thing they do is affected by regulation. |
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Post by notamnkdmillionaire on Jun 23, 2015 10:10:20 GMT -5
And under ObummerCare (ACA- Assault Citizens Anytime Law), it's going to get worse as Insurance companies consolidate and eliminate competition.
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Post by peppy on Jun 23, 2015 10:28:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 10:36:10 GMT -5
That's the fraud in all of this. Force the consumer to lie to get a better med.
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Post by abovemyraising on Jun 23, 2015 10:56:57 GMT -5
In all likelihood, those "Criteria for Use" are all you're likely to see for years, maybe decades, to come unless SNY and/or MNKD produce some studies clearly demonstrating something about afrezza that makes significantly more effective to use long term or unless they lower the price to where it is outcompetes lispro.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 11:36:16 GMT -5
In all likelihood, those "Criteria for Use" are all you're likely to see for years, maybe decades, to come unless SNY and/or MNKD produce some studies clearly demonstrating something about afrezza that makes significantly more effective to use long term or unless they lower the price to where it is outcompetes lispro. Bearcrusher is that you? How many ids have you created here? Yawn. |
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Post by _neil on Jun 23, 2015 11:36:22 GMT -5
Well this is disappointing. I wasn't really considering the VA to drive a lot of demand for Afrezza. I don't know about this but isn't the VA generally on the trailing edge for medical care?
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on Jun 23, 2015 11:39:47 GMT -5
In all likelihood, those "Criteria for Use" are all you're likely to see for years, maybe decades, to come unless SNY and/or MNKD produce some studies clearly demonstrating something about afrezza that makes significantly more effective to use long term or unless they lower the price to where it is outcompetes lispro. Worry not, studies demonstrating superiority will be produced and things will change, even if slowly. Years, perhaps, decades I doubt it. We are in the very early stages of the introduction of Afrezza, but once we reach critical mass, walls will fall one by one. Early results are too good to expect anything else. Yes, perhaps too optimistic for some, but I truly believe so. |
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Post by bioexec25 on Jun 23, 2015 12:36:24 GMT -5
Actually unfortunately Washington DC rules the roost. We are visiting Texas and wow so refreshing. Talk about people wanting to protect our freedoms, Very cool if not PC nowadays.
Remember the Alamo!!!!! ( sorry a local just told me to say that ). :-)))
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Post by orlon on Jun 23, 2015 13:29:44 GMT -5
I do not view this as a 'woe is me' document as others seem to do. First of all it is a draft, not a final version; second, it reflects the label affixed by the FDA. The objectionable part is at the end of the document that requires one of two exceptions, injection site problems and/or workplace prohibitions. Overall this should be viewed that at least the VA is looking at AFREZZA, and second it is still a doctor/patient decision. Of note is the fact that TRICARE users...DoD, have access to AFREZZA at EXPRESS SCRIPTS...both active duty and military retirees. As a military retiree, I can use the VA pharmacy or not...I can also use TRICARE if need be through Express Scripts.
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Post by ralphm1999 on Jun 23, 2015 15:54:21 GMT -5
I do not view this as a 'woe is me' document as others seem to do. First of all it is a draft, not a final version; second, it reflects the label affixed by the FDA. The objectionable part is at the end of the document that requires one of two exceptions, injection site problems and/or workplace prohibitions. Overall this should be viewed that at least the VA is looking at AFREZZA, and second it is still a doctor/patient decision. Of note is the fact that TRICARE users...DoD, have access to AFREZZA at EXPRESS SCRIPTS...both active duty and military retirees. As a military retiree, I can use the VA pharmacy or not...I can also use TRICARE if need be through Express Scripts. Agree. As a vet also solely dependent on the VA, the very fact the VA is looking at this is very encouraging. I am not yet diabetic but I'm glad that Afrezza will be available from the VA pharmacy at some future time. I will ask my doctor about this during my next physical around September. |
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