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Post by jay1ajay1a on Aug 25, 2015 10:16:10 GMT -5
We all have been hoping for a long time. I am still very long, like most of us on this board.
Just felt we would be at a better PPS by now.
On the fence about adding 2-3K shares today.
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Aug 25, 2015 10:27:10 GMT -5
I am waiting. I see this getting uglier.
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Post by mssciguy on Aug 25, 2015 10:30:06 GMT -5
I am waiting. I see this getting uglier. Don't we all? Right after the open, nearly every day. It's a cash cow for the HFT/short team. Not worth obsessing over the price, if you don't like what's happening with the naked shorting and hit pieces, report via sec.gov. I did. Did you? |
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Aug 25, 2015 11:00:46 GMT -5
No disrespect but I disagree that every bad day is because of hedge fund manipulation and shorting. The current situation is far from stable. There are poor scripts, poor communication from management, the convertible note was handled poorly and there is the shorting. Everyone is so quick to bash the shorts but I mean really MNKD has helped gift wrapped it to them.
I don't obsess over the price. I simply stated that I am waiting as this is going to get uglier. I have not called the SEC and will not call the SEC because they dont care. If anything you should take your own advice about the obsessing. Its shorted and its manipulated but if you believe in the product then relax.
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Post by jay1ajay1a on Aug 25, 2015 11:05:20 GMT -5
I am waiting. I see this getting uglier. Don't we all? Right after the open, nearly every day. It's a cash cow for the HFT/short team. Not worth obsessing over the price, if you don't like what's happening with the naked shorting and hit pieces, report via sec.gov. I did. Did you? I have not, I just sit naked and buy more shares. |
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Aug 25, 2015 11:10:38 GMT -5
Don't we all? Right after the open, nearly every day. It's a cash cow for the HFT/short team. Not worth obsessing over the price, if you don't like what's happening with the naked shorting and hit pieces, report via sec.gov. I did. Did you? I have not, I just sit naked and buy more shares. You work form home too? lol |
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Post by patryn on Aug 25, 2015 11:16:57 GMT -5
A high stock price cures all woes and hides all sins, whereas a low stock price airs out every grievance and slight either real or imagined into the light of day. There are so many examples of companies that have made horrible decisions and/or are losing money but have been vindicated by a high share price. I can't say that there are any examples I know of that are the opposite - a company that makes great decisions and is cashflow positive and continues to gain market share being punished with a low share price - that just doesn't happen because fundamentals will determine the long term value of any publicly traded company.
MNKD will either get traction in the market place, overcome the insurance and prescription hurdles and then we won't be talking about the short sellers at all, or it will continue to languish in this unknown territory where the financials, marketing plan, and legal agreements are purposefully obfuscated and therefore allow the stock to be manipulated.
I have done my due diligence and believe in the former, so I am not concerned about the day to day or even year to year fluctuations in the stock price, because I don't intend to sell. If the company succeeds in the long term, I will recoup my investment through the dividends that it pays to shareholders - the ONLY way that actual money is generated in the stock market - everything else is a zero sum game where someone wins or loses when stocks are traded.
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Aug 25, 2015 12:05:25 GMT -5
A high stock price cures all woes and hides all sins, whereas a low stock price airs out every grievance and slight either real or imagined into the light of day. There are so many examples of companies that have made horrible decisions and/or are losing money but have been vindicated by a high share price. I can't say that there are any examples I know of that are the opposite - a company that makes great decisions and is cashflow positive and continues to gain market share being punished with a low share price - that just doesn't happen because fundamentals will determine the long term value of any publicly traded company. MNKD will either get traction in the market place, overcome the insurance and prescription hurdles and then we won't be talking about the short sellers at all, or it will continue to languish in this unknown territory where the financials, marketing plan, and legal agreements are purposefully obfuscated and therefore allow the stock to be manipulated. I have done my due diligence and believe in the former, so I am not concerned about the day to day or even year to year fluctuations in the stock price, because I don't intend to sell. If the company succeeds in the long term, I will recoup my investment through the dividends that it pays to shareholders - the ONLY way that actual money is generated in the stock market - everything else is a zero sum game where someone wins or loses when stocks are traded. And complaining spouses Not going to lie I had to google that word. I like it! If I have one complaint its that being down as much as I am has effected the amount I can margin |
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Post by nsmyth on Aug 25, 2015 12:39:10 GMT -5
so if Sanofi buys a 10% stake at 3.5 for 140mm and drives it hard in sales and marketing over next 3 years, the stock could hi the 50+ range. Thats a 2BB increase in value which more than covers the initial payment to Mannkind. If they truly believe in the product, they should buy at this price.
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Post by jay1ajay1a on Aug 25, 2015 12:46:09 GMT -5
so if Sanofi buys a 10% stake at 3.5 for 140mm and drives it hard in sales and marketing over next 3 years, the stock could hi the 50+ range. Thats a 2BB increase in value which more than covers the initial payment to Mannkind. If they truly believe in the product, they should buy sat this price. I hope they are buying. Per the contract Sanofi can't over 5%, if I remember right. |
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Post by newmnkdinvestor on Aug 25, 2015 12:48:57 GMT -5
so if Sanofi buys a 10% stake at 3.5 for 140mm and drives it hard in sales and marketing over next 3 years, the stock could hi the 50+ range. Thats a 2BB increase in value which more than covers the initial payment to Mannkind. If they truly believe in the product, they should buy sat this price. Why would they switch from incentive based payments to going all in with low prescriptions? |
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Post by bradleysbest on Aug 25, 2015 13:17:59 GMT -5
Jay I noticed an updated number of shares! Congrats (I think...) LOL
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Post by sportsrancho on Aug 25, 2015 13:35:02 GMT -5
Spiro always enjoys reading threads like this one, particularly because he didn't start the thread. However Spiro is now a reformed irrational pumper and has lowered his expectations so much that he would now be OK, not happy, just OK, with a buyout of $15 a share. In light of what Spiro personally knows about the effectiveness of Afrezza, he believes that anything less than $15 per should be considered criminal activity. Spiro here, still one of the few Type 2 diabetics enjoying the life changing benefits of Afrezza I'm trusting Al to handle the BO price. IF he sells the whole thing, I'd like to put half of that into what ever company is smart enough to go for it! I hope this board could then be called. All about Afrezza:-) Have to keep up with Spiro!! |
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Post by notamnkdmillionaire on Aug 25, 2015 13:36:58 GMT -5
Spiro always enjoys reading threads like this one, particularly because he didn't start the thread. However Spiro is now a reformed irrational pumper and has lowered his expectations so much that he would now be OK, not happy, just OK, with a buyout of $15 a share. In light of what Spiro personally knows about the effectiveness of Afrezza, he believes that anything less than $15 per should be considered criminal activity. Spiro here, still one of the few Type 2 diabetics enjoying the life changing benefits of Afrezza I'm trusting Al to handle the BO price. IF he sells the whole thing, I'd like to put half of that into what ever company is smart enough to go for it! I hope this board could then be called. All about Afrezza:-) Have to keep up with Spiro!! What happens if Al passes away? |
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Post by jay1ajay1a on Aug 25, 2015 13:43:37 GMT -5
Jay I noticed an updated number of shares! Congrats (I think...) LOL Yes I have added over the past two days. I think it is a good move, only time will tell. |
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