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Post by hankscorpio7 on Oct 3, 2015 16:58:39 GMT -5
No. Only if there is potential of additional bidders coming in, stock will stay below buy out price. But- if huge amount of calls have been bought by major holders, they could call the shares and force buying over buy-out price.
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Post by cretin11 on Oct 3, 2015 17:01:15 GMT -5
Plausible theory. Highly, highly unlikely though. I don't think companies are vindictive like this nor waste much time making such plans when so much remains to be done. You're also forgetting to factor in the layoffs. That's about the only empirical evidence we have right now on the state of the company. Also, MNKD isn't going to rocket into the 30s when the news breaks. Shorts probably won't get fried as badly as many here seem to think. I have no idea what I'm talking about with pricing, but I can't imagine MNKD can go much higher than 9-12 in the short term. Not sure why so many think there will be this massive short squeeze when there are so many docs that have yet to hear about Afrezza. It's gonna take time if it comes at all. Please be careful y'all. This is the kind of thinking that is going to get you into deep, deep trouble. You are probably right with those numbers as any sort of short term squeeze is likely to be followed with selling off by those who have become fatigued and disenfranchised with the stock. Supply and demand - there will be more shares available on the supply side as price moves above magnitude 3 or so ($10+). It will likely be a VERY gradual rise as opposed to a massive squeeze. Trying to reign in the exuberance around here is a futile task, to much faith-based investing, there's abundant talk of a "seemingly eminent" $40-60+ mega short squeeze... possible? Maybe, but so is winning the lottery. What abundant talk of eminent $40-60 share price? Are you getting this board confused with the yahoo board perhaps? |
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Post by saxcmann on Oct 3, 2015 17:28:32 GMT -5
still wondering though if there ever is a buyout with lets say SI over 100 million... does that propel the stock over the buyout offer? I've never seen that before. I've seen numerous times a buyout at lets say 30 bucks and it immediately jumps to 30... and hangs around that number until buyout closes. does SI make a higher price possible and why? Grazie I believe it doesn't go over. Shorts cover at buyout price. |
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Post by harrys on Oct 3, 2015 17:48:41 GMT -5
You are probably right with those numbers as any sort of short term squeeze is likely to be followed with selling off by those who have become fatigued and disenfranchised with the stock. Supply and demand - there will be more shares available on the supply side as price moves above magnitude 3 or so ($10+). It will likely be a VERY gradual rise as opposed to a massive squeeze. Trying to reign in the exuberance around here is a futile task, to much faith-based investing, there's abundant talk of a "seemingly eminent" $40-60+ mega short squeeze... possible? Maybe, but so is winning the lottery. What abundant talk of eminent $40-60 share price? Are you getting this board confused with the yahoo board perhaps? I'm not about to start calling people out, look back through threads if you'd like to see. I will say this board can get just as rediculous as YMB on occasion with so many faith-based investors... minus the hedge fund paid serial posters of course. |
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Post by cretin11 on Oct 3, 2015 18:24:25 GMT -5
What abundant talk of eminent $40-60 share price? Are you getting this board confused with the yahoo board perhaps? I'm not about to start calling people out, look back through threads if you'd like to see. I will say this board can get just as rediculous as YMB on occasion with so many faith-based investors... minus the hedge fund paid serial posters of course. i I've read the threads, but your characterization is inaccurate. It seems you're making a straw man argument but I'm not sure why you would do that? |
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Post by chyaboi on Oct 3, 2015 18:44:27 GMT -5
What abundant talk of eminent $40-60 share price? Are you getting this board confused with the yahoo board perhaps? I'm not about to start calling people out, look back through threads if you'd like to see. I will say this board can get just as rediculous as YMB on occasion with so many faith-based investors... minus the hedge fund paid serial posters of course. .... yeah again agree with cretin11. and you mean add the hedge fun paid serial posters as yourself. Would be nice for you to make claims and back them up with facts. Also it only gets rediculous when we have faithless-based "investors" who continue to spout emotional criticisms of the management, Sanofi, etc. The board still has good discussions when material events pop up and it is unfortunate that a few of the "investors" ruin it, when they go off topic and complain about other non-material events or items. |
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Post by gamblerjag on Oct 3, 2015 18:58:57 GMT -5
Thanks. Saxs.. I thought that too..
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Post by harrys on Oct 3, 2015 19:04:45 GMT -5
I'm not about to start calling people out, look back through threads if you'd like to see. I will say this board can get just as rediculous as YMB on occasion with so many faith-based investors... minus the hedge fund paid serial posters of course. .... yeah again agree with cretin11. and you mean add the hedge fun paid serial posters as yourself. Would be nice for you to make claims and back them up with facts. Also it only gets rediculous when we have faithless-based "investors" who continue to spout emotional criticisms of the management, Sanofi, etc. The board still has good discussions when material events pop up and it is unfortunate that a few of the "investors" ruin it, when they go off topic and complain about other non-material events or items. If I didn't know any better I might suspect cretin11 and chyaboi are the same person... or at least part of the same tag team. I see you fall under the category of "faith-based investor" so I apologize if I've insulted you; but this sort of fanaticism you represent violates maybe the most important rule of investing which is not to get emotionally attached to a stock. The fact that you call criticism towards this management "emotional criticism" tells me all I need to know about your position, good luck. |
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Post by goyocafe on Oct 3, 2015 19:49:55 GMT -5
So what you are saying is that when the short volume hits the limit of 314 Million shares, that is when Al will release the kraken to devour the shorts? I think that's Kragle, and it's used to keep them in one place so the world can move on without them. Or something like that.  |
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Post by papanigon on Oct 3, 2015 19:53:44 GMT -5
Releasing of the Kracken would be nice. Although, if the next press release I see is to announce reporting of Q3 results, I will be disappointed and a tad more concerned.
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Post by harrys on Oct 3, 2015 19:57:51 GMT -5
Releasing of the Kracken would be nice. Although, if the next press release I see is to announce reporting of Q3 results, I will be disappointed and a tad more concerned. There's no way Matt's waiting until the Q3 call to announce the notes resolution, I was surprised we didn't see a press release on Friday. |
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Post by papanigon on Oct 3, 2015 20:07:53 GMT -5
Releasing of the Kracken would be nice. Although, if the next press release I see is to announce reporting of Q3 results, I will be disappointed and a tad more concerned. There's no way Matt's waiting until the Q3 call to announce the notes resolution, I was surprised we didn't see a press release on Friday. I agree, something needs to be communicated to eliminate all the speculation and give a better indication of what exactly is going on, even it is releasing the Kracken. |
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Post by harrys on Oct 3, 2015 20:21:14 GMT -5
There's no way Matt's waiting until the Q3 call to announce the notes resolution, I was surprised we didn't see a press release on Friday. I agree, something needs to be communicated to eliminate all the speculation and give a better indication of what exactly is going on, even it is releasing the Kracken. If they somehow managed to hold off on the note announcement until the Q3 call it could be strategic in a way. The Q3 call would likely contain doubly good news as they would have paid off the notes and gained another milestone in manufacturing ($25mill?), subsequently leaving the balance sheet looking a lot better than Q2 despite continued meager sales. |
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Post by chyaboi on Oct 3, 2015 20:55:28 GMT -5
.... yeah again agree with cretin11. and you mean add the hedge fun paid serial posters as yourself. Would be nice for you to make claims and back them up with facts. Also it only gets rediculous when we have faithless-based "investors" who continue to spout emotional criticisms of the management, Sanofi, etc. The board still has good discussions when material events pop up and it is unfortunate that a few of the "investors" ruin it, when they go off topic and complain about other non-material events or items. If I didn't know any better I might suspect cretin11 and chyaboi are the same person... or at least part of the same tag team. I see you fall under the category of "faith-based investor" so I apologize if I've insulted you; but this sort of fanaticism you represent violates maybe the most important rule of investing which is not to get emotionally attached to a stock. The fact that you call criticism towards this management "emotional criticism" tells me all I need to know about your position, good luck. Good luck to you as well and yes it seems that cretin11 and I are on the same tag team of calling you out for untrue statements. I see you used the typical defense mechanism of avoiding the original question and instead accusing us of being a "faith based investors." Now I guess I will ask the question again. Do you have backup for the "abundant talk of $40-$60 buyout statement" from this board? |
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Post by harrys on Oct 3, 2015 21:12:49 GMT -5
If I didn't know any better I might suspect cretin11 and chyaboi are the same person... or at least part of the same tag team. I see you fall under the category of "faith-based investor" so I apologize if I've insulted you; but this sort of fanaticism you represent violates maybe the most important rule of investing which is not to get emotionally attached to a stock. The fact that you call criticism towards this management "emotional criticism" tells me all I need to know about your position, good luck. Good luck to you as well and yes it seems that cretin11 and I are on the same tag team of calling you out for untrue statements. I see you used the typical defense mechanism of avoiding the original question and instead accusing us of being a "faith based investors." Now I guess I will ask the question again. Do you have backup for the "abundant talk of $40-$60 buyout statement" from this board? Ahhhh now i see where the issue is, you come out of the woodwork to "call me out" with your 10th contribution ever on this board and you don't even know what it is we are discussing... that seems kindof silly? So let me update you - we were discussing the possibility of a short squeeze within this thread, I had said "$40-60+ mega short squeeze... possible?" Now I know why you weren't able to go back and verify the facts I have layed in front of you, you're to lazy to even read posts that you are responding to! So to answer your question: Do you have backup for the "abundant talk of $40-$60 buyout statement" from this board? Why no, no I don't... in fact I don't recall discussing a "$40-60 buyout", I do recall something about a "$40-60+ mega short squeeze" A buyout and short squeeze are two different events bud, I reccomend investopedia to get you started. |
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