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Post by mnkdorbust on Nov 19, 2015 11:41:17 GMT -5
I believe Sanofi buy in of 5% would short circuit the "shorts" and Matt did say "not YET" so they may... The "not yet" part of Matt's comment i found very interesting. If I didn't know anything i would answer that as simple as No. If i knew of something that isn't public i would potentially answer as he did with a Not Yet. It's possible that he's also trying to scare the shorts by saying it when he knows nothing of their potential buy in. If that's the case it didn't work unfortunately. |
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Post by vissertrades on Nov 19, 2015 11:45:25 GMT -5
Not YET :-)
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Post by rockstarrick on Nov 19, 2015 11:57:41 GMT -5
And this folks is why you invest with the hope that a company will succeed, and not place your bets on failure. Duh Hey, I hear this company is going bk, I think I'll put 37k on the short side and make a quick profit. I wonder how many more retail shorts got burned on this one ?? |
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Post by jeremg on Nov 19, 2015 12:02:29 GMT -5
I believe Sanofi buy in of 5% would short circuit the "shorts" and Matt did say "not YET" so they may... I think the way you are interpreting "not yet" is a little generous, Matt has been known to mislead in his statements as @kastanes emails have shown two or three times in the past. I'm interpreting that "not yet" the way it was likely intended "no they haven't, but i'll go ahead and add some optimistic fodder for the shareholders to feed off of [not YET]". |
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Post by kbrion77 on Nov 19, 2015 12:06:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 12:15:25 GMT -5
do u think its a conspiracy ? that the company released news its liquidating with out any real intention ? i belive it was for real... they announced it last week ...and most of the investors would sell including me.. investing is putting your money into some one 's hand / vision /work.. you dont have any control on them - except sell / buy your shares.. its all probability |
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Post by mssciguy on Nov 19, 2015 12:26:58 GMT -5
do u think its a conspiracy ? that the company released news its liquidating with out any real intention ? i belive it was for real... they announced it last week ...and most of the investors would sell including me.. investing is putting your money into some one 's hand / vision /work.. you dont have any control on them - except sell / buy your shares.. its all probability Heck ya... an after-hours short squeeze. I spent a few hours looking at the stocktwits stream (huge volume), and the most sensible comment was that maybe Shrek was going to merge his "Turing" with KBIO (maybe to legitimize himself/his company  ). Monoclonal antibodies for cancer is a very messy business though, one of those ten percent solutions. He is not doing any services to anyone who is sick with cancer, for sure. This guy Shrek takes full advantage of all the bad stuff you can do in the US and not face prosecution. But I suspect karma will get him (also AF -- and they know it). |
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Post by kbrion77 on Nov 19, 2015 12:33:01 GMT -5
do u think its a conspiracy ? that the company released news its liquidating with out any real intention ? i belive it was for real... they announced it last week ...and most of the investors would sell including me.. investing is putting your money into some one 's hand / vision /work.. you dont have any control on them - except sell / buy your shares.. its all probability Something stinks about it. And yes because it involves Shkreli it gets more attention but rightfully so with his history. Time will tell with this one. It's just amazing to me he continues to act as if nothing will ever happen to him with these headlining actions. Maybe he is 50 times smarter than everyone else I have no idea. |
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Post by mssciguy on Nov 19, 2015 12:49:42 GMT -5
do u think its a conspiracy ? that the company released news its liquidating with out any real intention ? i belive it was for real... they announced it last week ...and most of the investors would sell including me.. investing is putting your money into some one 's hand / vision /work.. you dont have any control on them - except sell / buy your shares.. its all probability Something stinks about it. And yes because it involves Shkreli it gets more attention but rightfully so with his history. Time will tell with this one. It's just amazing to me he continues to act as if nothing will ever happen to him with these headlining actions. Maybe he is 50 times smarter than everyone else I have no idea. "Smart" is how he advertises himself, and it depends on how smart is defined. But this guy stalled MNKD for a couple of years while shorting, while admitting the shorting in a letter to FDA that may have resulted in the delays. One person's smart is another's evil. I would probably say "cunning" or "zealously opportunistic" |
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Post by kc on Nov 19, 2015 13:16:00 GMT -5
Al buying shares into his OWN company, and it probably wouldn't even budge the share price. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I'm going to go out on a limb and say we will be hearing about this situation some time from now and the term business acumen will not be used anyway near it. As long as over 100 million shares are being lent to the shorts (and many who read this board are getting monthly paychecks for just that), we'll continue to see manipulation, hit pieces, and general malaise among most retail holders. This is not the market of 10 or 20 years ago, give the hedgies a little rope and they'll hang everyone. Everyone. And that's why they are so hated and mostly failing right now. I don't agree with your statement. Perhaps the longs on this board in the lending program represent 1M to 2M shares. That is pimple of the amount of shares short. I have always stated that we can't move the needle on the shorts. |
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Post by vissertrades on Nov 19, 2015 14:01:17 GMT -5
Wanna bet shrek unloaded his KBIO shares in AM/PM or today and took a short position? Sneaky little creep!
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Post by jpg on Nov 19, 2015 14:07:25 GMT -5
do u think its a conspiracy ? that the company released news its liquidating with out any real intention ? i belive it was for real... they announced it last week ...and most of the investors would sell including me.. investing is putting your money into some one 's hand / vision /work.. you dont have any control on them - except sell / buy your shares.. its all probability It's rather classical penny stock manipulation. Funny how putting the word 'conspiracy' in there is supposed to stop us fromthinking otherwise... Looking at that 'crews' history and the a priori thinking should probably be conspiracy... |
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on Nov 19, 2015 14:08:16 GMT -5
So what if eventually regulators catch up with him. Even if he is thrown into a minimum security facility, which in his case probably will be the equivalent of a country club, he will walk out after a relatively short period of time to millions and millions waiting for him. It's nauseating.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 16:43:11 GMT -5
I believe Sanofi buy in of 5% would short circuit the "shorts" and Matt did say "not YET" so they may... I think the way you are interpreting "not yet" is a little generous, Matt has been known to mislead in his statements as @kastanes emails have shown two or three times in the past. I'm interpreting that "not yet" the way it was likely intended "no they haven't, but i'll go ahead and add some optimistic fodder for the shareholders to feed off of [not YET]". I have never interpreted Matt's email replies as misleading or ingenious. Matt was stating his opinion, confined within corporate legal parameters. To do otherwise would be an invitation for lawsuits. |
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Post by mssciguy on Nov 19, 2015 16:50:27 GMT -5
I think the way you are interpreting "not yet" is a little generous, Matt has been known to mislead in his statements as @kastanes emails have shown two or three times in the past. I'm interpreting that "not yet" the way it was likely intended "no they haven't, but i'll go ahead and add some optimistic fodder for the shareholders to feed off of [not YET]". I have never interpreted Matt's email replies as misleading or ingenious. Matt was stating his opinion, confined within corporate legal parameters. To do otherwise would be an invitation for lawsuits. @kastanes I agree completely and despite my IRAs declining 60% (temporarily, for now  ) in value, I appreciate what these guys are up against. It's not easy to operate outside the slippery places that are graced by Wall Street or Silicon Valley VC charm. Very strong ethics and wealth backing this --- it's a superior treatment possibly reversing T2 if the condition is caught early enough. The real pearl in this oyster will be: 1. early detection of high blood glucose, 2. intervention with Afrezza, 3. lifestyle changes And if that doesn't work, you get the toxic RAA insulins All the best of health to everyone here, MS sciguy |
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). Monoclonal antibodies for cancer is a very messy business though, one of those ten percent solutions. He is not doing any services to anyone who is sick with cancer, for sure.
) in value, I appreciate what these guys are up against. It's not easy to operate outside the slippery places that are graced by Wall Street or Silicon Valley VC charm. Very strong ethics and wealth backing this --- it's a superior treatment possibly reversing T2 if the condition is caught early enough.