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Post by benyiju on Nov 22, 2015 12:50:35 GMT -5
In the wake of Friday's surprise hakansack, it is widely expected that MNKD will be looking for a new CEO. But how long will this take?
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Post by peppy on Nov 22, 2015 12:56:28 GMT -5
the day the potential hoped for new deal with teva is signed
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Post by jpg on Nov 22, 2015 13:44:59 GMT -5
the day the potential hoped for new deal with teva is signed Could you give me one small miniscule clue to why so many seem to repeat this Teva thing so often? Is this a case of reapeating something often enough and people believe it has merit? And do you and orher really think a tie up with one of the most hardball and cheap partnerships? |
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Post by peppy on Nov 22, 2015 14:00:44 GMT -5
the day the potential hoped for new deal with teva is signed Could you give me one small miniscule clue to why so many seem to repeat this Teva thing so often? Is this a case of reapeating something often enough and people believe it has merit? And do you and orher really think a tie up with one of the most hardball and cheap partnerships? quote; Could you give me one small miniscule clue to why so many seem to repeat this Teva thing so often? reply; yes. For months I have been reading, looking up chit... I really had no clue why we were going down the laundry shoot. Then I found out, sanofi has priced us ridiculously for the market. If it is obvious to me now finally, it is obvious to the board and Al. So they have to scramble is my guess. al mann wants this marketed. it has to be priced about 1/2 the present price to succeed. If Al sold afrezza to teva, they could sell it as a successful price point? the goal? Then the exchange listing, all the patents filed... money... I am looking for you all to tell ME. is it possible? would it be a win for AL. would he have afrezza viable? could it be done? I do not know enough to know. said because I would like to see afrezza make it too after learning so much.
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Post by jpg on Nov 22, 2015 14:05:15 GMT -5
Could you give me one small miniscule clue to why so many seem to repeat this Teva thing so often? Is this a case of reapeating something often enough and people believe it has merit? And do you and orher really think a tie up with one of the most hardball and cheap partnerships? quote; Could you give me one small miniscule clue to why so many seem to repeat this Teva thing so often? reply; yes. For months I have been reading, looking up chit... I really had no clue why we were going down the laundry shoot. Then I found out, sanofi has priced us ridiculously for the market. If it is obvious to me now finally, it is obvious to the board and Al. So they have to scramble is my guess. al mann wants this marketed. it has to be priced about 1/2 the present price to succeed. If Al sold afrezza to teva, they could sell it as a successful price point? the goal? Then the exchange listing, all the patents filed... money... I am looking for you all to tell ME. is it possible? would it be a win for AL. would he have afrezza viable? could it be done? I do not know enough to know. said because I would like to see afrezza make it too after learning so much.
Thank you for your response but my questioni is there a small miniscule piece of evidence that there is a link between Mannkind and Tevs? Laker seems to think so but has never provided anything to back that up. Why do we drone on about Teva? Desperation? Simply a vacuum needs to be filled? |
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Post by peppy on Nov 22, 2015 14:09:46 GMT -5
only... teva lists on the tase..and let me think I will add.
oh, they could do it, they are capable...
I will add let me dig and help all you want
added; www.tevapharm.com/about/history/
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Post by jpg on Nov 22, 2015 14:15:36 GMT -5
Teva is one of the most brutal and cheap partners. A last chance choice. Yes they are capable but mostly of stripping most of the value out of their partners. nd you want a lawsuit friendly partner? Again the king of lawsuits: Teva.
As long as pumping a partnerhip (based on nothing) we should use Novartis (Sandoz also). Now that is pumping I could actually see as good pumping while to me the Tevs pumping is almost bashing...
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Post by peppy on Nov 22, 2015 14:17:14 GMT -5
Teva is one of the most brutal and cheap partners. A last chance choice. Yes they are capable but mostly of stripping most of the value out of their partners. nd you want a lawsuit friendly partner? Again the king of lawsuits: Teva. As long as pumping a partnerhip (based on nothing) we should use Novartis (Sandoz also). Now that is pumping I could actually see as good pumping while to me the Tevs pumping is almost bashing... so sorry jpg. more like no way out I will stop the thought.
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Post by stevil on Nov 22, 2015 14:22:04 GMT -5
quote; Could you give me one small miniscule clue to why so many seem to repeat this Teva thing so often? reply; yes. For months I have been reading, looking up chit... I really had no clue why we were going down the laundry shoot. Then I found out, sanofi has priced us ridiculously for the market. If it is obvious to me now finally, it is obvious to the board and Al. So they have to scramble is my guess. al mann wants this marketed. it has to be priced about 1/2 the present price to succeed. If Al sold afrezza to teva, they could sell it as a successful price point? the goal? Then the exchange listing, all the patents filed... money... I am looking for you all to tell ME. is it possible? would it be a win for AL. would he have afrezza viable? could it be done? I do not know enough to know. said because I would like to see afrezza make it too after learning so much.
Thank you for your response but my questioni is there a small miniscule piece of evidence that there is a link between Mannkind and Tevs? Laker seems to think so but has never provided anything to back that up. Why do we drone on about Teva? Desperation? Simply a vacuum needs to be filled? Speculation over the TASE listing. Why list on an Israeli market? Sure, Al is Israeli, but are you going to chalk up the TASE listing to charity from Al's pals to keep MNKD afloat? If not, there's clearly more here (or should be... ha maybe there isn't) than meets the eye. The link? TEVA is based in Israel and we just opened up a listing on an Israeli stock exchange. Could be something, could be nothing. But I'd consider that to be just a fraction above miniscule. It fits, and honestly, doesn't make much sense otherwise. What else is in Israel that's relevant to a biopharm to prompt this listing? Serious question as I don't know... |
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Post by jpg on Nov 22, 2015 14:26:23 GMT -5
Thank you for your response but my questioni is there a small miniscule piece of evidence that there is a link between Mannkind and Tevs? Laker seems to think so but has never provided anything to back that up. Why do we drone on about Teva? Desperation? Simply a vacuum needs to be filled? Speculation over the TASE listing. Why list on an Israeli market? Sure, Al is Israeli, but are you going to chalk up the TASE listing to charity from Al's pals to keep MNKD afloat? If not, there's clearly more here (or should be... ha maybe there isn't) than meets the eye. The link? TEVA is based in Israel and we just opened up a listing on an Israeli stock exchange. Could be something, could be nothing. But I'd consider that to be just a fraction above miniscule. It fits, and honestly, doesn't make much sense otherwise. What else is in Israel that's relevant to a biopharm to prompt this listing? Serious question as I don't know... Mann is Israeli? Really? Do you have a reference for that 'fact'? |
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Post by stevil on Nov 22, 2015 14:38:06 GMT -5
Speculation over the TASE listing. Why list on an Israeli market? Sure, Al is Israeli, but are you going to chalk up the TASE listing to charity from Al's pals to keep MNKD afloat? If not, there's clearly more here (or should be... ha maybe there isn't) than meets the eye. The link? TEVA is based in Israel and we just opened up a listing on an Israeli stock exchange. Could be something, could be nothing. But I'd consider that to be just a fraction above miniscule. It fits, and honestly, doesn't make much sense otherwise. What else is in Israel that's relevant to a biopharm to prompt this listing? Serious question as I don't know... Mann is Israeli? Really? Do you have a reference for that 'fact'? Pardon me, Jewish. That's what I meant... Hate citing wiki as a source, but I hope you'll accept. Let me know if you need DNA evidence to confirm. Lab is on standby. Thanks in advance. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Mann |
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Post by benyiju on Nov 22, 2015 14:38:46 GMT -5
Mann is Jewish but not Israeli (as far as I know). However, he has been very active in pro-Israel philanthropy and investment in Israel. I originally thought the TASE listing was a sympathetic move to help out Israeli market which has been struggling of late, but events of recent weeks make it clear it was a hail mary financing move. The speculations about TEVA are wild speculation, Teva also operates and is listed in US mkts and the TASE listing wouldn't in any way benefit a partnership or BO (that I can see). In any case, the murky and abrupt circumstances of the Hakansack would seem to make it unlikely that this was a planned/strategic move on the part of MNKD BOD. There may have been disagreements, but it looks a lot more like firing a losing coach.
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Post by stevil on Nov 22, 2015 14:42:23 GMT -5
Thanks for your input, benyiju. This board would cease to exist without opinions and speculation because there is no news to report.
Sometimes throwing out stuff until it sticks isn't a bad plan. Because at least you can narrow down what is plausible vs what isn't.
Maybe it's just the scientist in me that enjoys making hypotheses and then testing the validity of it before throwing it out...
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Post by mnholdem on Nov 22, 2015 14:57:11 GMT -5
Thank you for your response but my questioni is there a small miniscule piece of evidence that there is a link between Mannkind and Tevs? Laker seems to think so but has never provided anything to back that up. Why do we drone on about Teva? Desperation? Simply a vacuum needs to be filled? Speculation over the TASE listing. Why list on an Israeli market? Sure, Al is Israeli, but are you going to chalk up the TASE listing to charity from Al's pals to keep MNKD afloat? If not, there's clearly more here (or should be... ha maybe there isn't) than meets the eye. The link? TEVA is based in Israel and we just opened up a listing on an Israeli stock exchange. Could be something, could be nothing. But I'd consider that to be just a fraction above miniscule. It fits, and honestly, doesn't make much sense otherwise. What else is in Israel that's relevant to a biopharm to prompt this listing? Serious question as I don't know... If there were a connection to the TASE, it would be the Alfred E. Mann Institute for Biomedical Development at Technion University in Israel. Not TEVA, and there has been no dealings between TEVA and MannKind that have ever been made public, IMHO. I think you may be barking up the wrong fig tree...  |
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Post by longstocking on Nov 22, 2015 15:04:35 GMT -5
only... teva lists on the tase..and let me think I will add.
oh, they could do it, they are capable...
I will add let me dig and help all you want
added; www.tevapharm.com/about/history/
Acquisition after acquisition for decades. It could happen. Thanks Peppy for sharing your DD. |
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