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Post by jeremg on Nov 23, 2015 15:45:44 GMT -5
Humor is good for the soul (especially when the soul is afflicted with MNKD ).
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Post by patryn on Nov 23, 2015 16:15:56 GMT -5
Need to change the first one to [insert home city] for it to be the metaphor you are looking for.
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Post by peppy on Nov 23, 2015 16:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by jeremg on Nov 23, 2015 16:21:17 GMT -5
Need to change the first one to [insert home city] for it to be the metaphor you are looking for. Hey I'm a "go big or go home" kindof guy. That's why I'm here .
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Post by patryn on Nov 23, 2015 16:22:03 GMT -5
Need to change the first one to [insert home city] for it to be the metaphor you are looking for. Hey I'm a "go big or go home" kindof guy. That's why I'm here . Fair enough. With the amount of capitulation here, I think a lot of people have already gone home so it's good to see there's still a go big crowd hanging around
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Post by jeremg on Nov 23, 2015 16:23:12 GMT -5
close to all time lows, looks to me like all holders are stuck. It would look that way from the poll, glad I'm not the only one. My logic for holding at this point is about all I can think of and I'm sticking to it.
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Nov 23, 2015 16:22:50 GMT -5
Given that Warren famously only invests in things he understands... I think I can't possibly qualify my investment in MNKD within the Buffet investing sphere. I think I understand Afrezza, but I don't understand the pharma business. I suspect there are others here in similar situation.
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Post by babaoriley on Nov 23, 2015 16:27:36 GMT -5
Excuse me, all five.
Regards, Sybil
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Post by jeremg on Nov 23, 2015 16:31:11 GMT -5
dreamboatcruise , I thought I understood MNKD, I know I understand Afrezza, but sadly I was out sick the day they discussed the corruption on WS in "Investing in Speculative Biotech for Dummies" and the dangers of partnering with Big Pharma as a small fragile biotech. Nowadays I hear the kids have online lectures so they don't even have to attend class to learn about the injustice in this capitalist[ic] system we live.
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Post by mssciguy on Nov 23, 2015 16:48:11 GMT -5
Excuse me, all five. Regards, Sybil You do know the book Sybil was a hoax, right? It terrified me once upon a time, I was so happy to learn it was fake (like the price of MNKD)
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Post by mssciguy on Nov 23, 2015 16:51:06 GMT -5
dreamboatcruise , I thought I understood MNKD, I know I understand Afrezza, but sadly I was out sick the day they discussed the corruption on WS in "Investing in Speculative Biotech for Dummies" and the dangers of partnering with Big Pharma as a small fragile biotech. Nowadays I hear the kids have online lectures so they don't even have to attend class to learn about the injustice in this capitalist[ic] system we live. If we were in a truly capitalist system, MNKD and Afrezza would be very popular now. We're in a corporatocracy in my opinion and it's just getting worse, huge international corporations more powerful than govts now, esp. with all the new trade agreements Just my two cents
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Post by stevil on Nov 23, 2015 16:51:57 GMT -5
Given that Warren famously only invests in things he understands... I think I can't possibly qualify my investment in MNKD within the Buffet investing sphere. I think I understand Afrezza, but I don't understand the pharma business. I suspect there are others here in similar situation. I can't imagine there are too many out there with the kind of experience I've had. I've worked with docs, know the science (biochem major, med school student), worked in a pharmacy, worked with insurance companies... All this to say, the only experience I lacked was WS corruption. And that's not really something you can predict. You're basically at the mercy of someone else that has more ability to assert their will than you do yours. I still contend that this SHOULD be a good investment. For whatever corrupt reason, it is not at this moment. You can't tell me that COPD patients that have been taking inhaled steroids for years (steroids have much more potential for harm than FDKP that has nearly 100% clearance in urine) shouldn't prove the safety and efficacy of inhaled medications. Spirometry should not be required. It makes sense to list asthma and other breathing complications as contraindications for Afrezza, but people with no prior lung issues should not have to restricted at all. There are far worse drugs out there. Birth control pills have been linked to a higher incidence of sterility and breast cancers. People who smoke while taking them can suffer fatal blood clots. I have family members on bowel anti-inflammatory meds that have been shown to cause lymphoma. There are very few drugs without risks. That's what the black box warning is for. Those working behind the scenes have an agenda to push to do as much as they can to make sure this drug does not succeed. There's no way we could have been aware of those without time exposing those evil intentions. That's why it's always crucial not to invest more than you can afford to lose. Wall street has become a casino. Unless you're going to stick with mutual funds or invest in stable companies that pay a dividend, you're going to be at risk of losing your money. Even though I am not pleased with the way my investment turned out, I do not regret my mistake. I played by my rules. I did the things I was supposed to do. The results just didn't turn out in my favor. Sometimes that happens. So I've been trying to learn as much as I can about this experience and apply it to the next one...
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Post by patryn on Nov 23, 2015 16:59:24 GMT -5
Nice to know everyone is writing eulogies to to the dearly departed. I suspect there are many more chapters to the MNKD story, and Wall St. corruption is not the thing keeping MNKD down. Execute on the sales and marketing initiative for Afrezza and everything else becomes minor.
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Post by jeremg on Nov 23, 2015 17:06:05 GMT -5
dreamboatcruise , I thought I understood MNKD, I know I understand Afrezza, but sadly I was out sick the day they discussed the corruption on WS in "Investing in Speculative Biotech for Dummies" and the dangers of partnering with Big Pharma as a small fragile biotech. Nowadays I hear the kids have online lectures so they don't even have to attend class to learn about the injustice in this capitalist[ic] system we live. If we were in a truly capitalist system, MNKD and Afrezza would be very popular now. We're in a corporatocracy in my opinion and it's just getting worse, huge international corporations more powerful than govts now, esp. with all the new trade agreements Just my two cents I agree completely, the corporations and special interests own the politicians/government through campaign contributions and the "too big to fail" banks hold the entire US economy hostage; the American Taxpayer bails them out and they turn around and fleece us for new record profits. Lovely country we live in, and we're supposed to be the "best", not so much anymore (with a whole new set of clowns coming down the political crapshoot for 2016). The special interests and politicians today wipe their a$$e$ with "We the People" and laugh about it amongst themselves in their ivory towers. [Tin Foil - Hat, Blindfold, and Blanket now enveloping my entire body in warm conspiracy]
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Nov 23, 2015 17:06:20 GMT -5
stevil... I doubt you are contending that short interests are affecting SNY ability to commercialize Afrezza. Obviously Novo and Lilly would be doing everything they can to block Afrezza in the market, but that is expected competition not some WS corruption. I'd be fine if all I missed was the ability for WS to manipulate share price. What I'm concerned about is my lack of understanding of modern drug market. For instance I lack fundamental insight into whether many PBM have exclusive contracts for Novolog and Humalog which preclude them from generally covering Afrezza, and if so for how long they might last. If you have insight into the process of getting Afrezza on formularies and how long that is likely to take... you are way ahead of me.
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