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Post by stevil on Dec 9, 2015 12:28:29 GMT -5
Who said anything about a "shadow organization?" There are plenty of books available on professional FUDsters, who hires them and why. I suggest you buy and read a few if you think that hiring pros to spread FUD is a myth. Board moderators do not publicly discuss actions taken, such as when a member is banned or suspended, so in many ways the board does have to trust us. I think that I can disclose, however, members from both "camps" are dealt with. The point of my message is that we moderators are receiving a number of complaints that incorrectly identify negative posts as FUD when they aren't. Perhaps you should read my message again. We will continue to moderate as best we can. And we thank you and the owners of the board for all the time, energy, and money y'all sink into this. I can't imagine how difficult it is to have to put up with us all day long  Thank you for your commitment. |
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Post by stevil on Dec 9, 2015 12:32:17 GMT -5
jeremg ... I guess I'm not quite viewing the situation as that dire. I think they have some runway... and I think it would be longer if they started truly doing investor relations. No, not for me... I'm not that deluded. Right now, I think the view on the street is that it would be impossible for them to do a successful offering. Call me an optimist but I think the company still has time to rebuild confidence over the next quarter in time to raise more money. (wow, I said something really optimistic, and yet I suspect I've already been blocked by everyone that would agree with it). This is my biggest concern. Even if we do dilute, how are we going to attract new investors during this time of prolonged silence? Who in their right mind would invest in a company that no one knows the direction of? All of us have done our DD without the added benefit of hindsight. Now that more of the story has been revealed, is MNKD as attractive of a biotech as it once was? I'm honestly not sure if I would invest in this company right now if I wasn't already. The price is attractive, but I wouldn't have sunk as much money into it... This stock looked like an investment when I started. It now looks like you're playing roulette. |
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Post by jeremg on Dec 9, 2015 12:32:27 GMT -5
stevil didn't you hear? It turns out "FUD" actually means "Facts-Undeniability-Diligence", you've been accused of simply pointing out facts this whole time! Rest easy and don't let the crazies get to you 
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Post by silentknight on Dec 9, 2015 12:34:12 GMT -5
If hitting an all-time low doesn't result in some concern by investors and management, I'm not sure what will. The company is taking a haircut of 5-10% off it's market cap per day and there's not a peep from anyone. I'm completely confused why there's no action as their stock slowly bleeds to what is now it's lowest point in history. Say something for crying out loud. You're already losing 10% per day. How much worse do you think it can get?
I had a buy order in today for a few more thousand at $1.50 but I cancelled it. The perpetual optimists almost convinced me that everything is going to be ok. Almost....
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Post by stevil on Dec 9, 2015 12:40:01 GMT -5
I'm not worried about people's perception of me. If I was, I wouldn't be on the contrarian side...
Truth be told, my time here is probably wasted. It takes me away from my studies and the people I'm trying to argue with don't want to have a rational discussion. Although it appears that some have been swayed to at least question their position. That's all I want to do... I sometimes let my biases get the best of me, but I honestly just try to challenge people to just address both sides. Some, like Rob Sacher, have considered both and choose to keep dumping more money into the stock. Good for him, I really hope it works out. I wouldn't do that in a million years right now, but if it works out, he'll be much wealthier for it. If I risk my hard earned money on a gamble, I at least want to enjoy it. So I'd rather drop 10k in a poker game (where I at least have some control on the outcome) rather than in a biotech whose direction no one but the elite few know about. But to each their own...
As hankscorpio or maybe unicorn rainbow pooper (davinci?) said- I hope this board can stay balanced so that people who are interested in learning about investing in MNKD can have all the options/arguments laid out for them. Those who choose a side- again, so be it. Bury your head in the sand. But for those who want to at least be exposed to ideas outside of their own minds because they may not see things the same way as other people- that's my hope for this board. But I'm not the moderator and I don't get to decide the tone of that board. I'm glad the moderators have given as much freedom as they have though.
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Post by jeremg on Dec 9, 2015 12:46:41 GMT -5
jeremg ... I guess I'm not quite viewing the situation as that dire. I think they have some runway... and I think it would be longer if they started truly doing investor relations. No, not for me... I'm not that deluded. Right now, I think the view on the street is that it would be impossible for them to do a successful offering. Call me an optimist but I think the company still has time to rebuild confidence over the next quarter in time to raise more money. (wow, I said something really optimistic, and yet I suspect I've already been blocked by everyone that would agree with it). As far as my "dire" views, the one thing I am convinced of is the fact that MNKD up for auction has to be worth at least [or more] of it's current value. If all else failed I think it's possible that Al could get a 200% premium from today's price in a sale. Like you, I think my biggest fear is massive dilution eroding my ownership stake before this previously mentioned point. |
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Post by me on Dec 9, 2015 12:59:08 GMT -5
Who woulda thunk that nearly half the posts on a thread about FUD and moderating would have been hidden! God Bless you moderators...you have a challenge each and every day and I for one, certainly appreciate the work you do.
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Post by stevil on Dec 9, 2015 13:02:35 GMT -5
Who woulda thunk that nearly half the posts on a thread about FUD and moderating would have been hidden! God Bless you moderators...you have a challenge each and every day and I for one, certainly appreciate the work you do. you probably won't see this because I have a feeling I'm blocked, but don't you realize that part of the reason this board has gotten so hostile and abrasive is due to these kinds of posts? |
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Post by jeremg on Dec 9, 2015 13:04:48 GMT -5
Who woulda thunk that nearly half the posts on a thread about FUD and moderating would have been hidden! God Bless you moderators...you have a challenge each and every day and I for one, certainly appreciate the work you do. you probably won't see this because I have a feeling I'm blocked, but don't you realize that part of the reason this board has gotten so hostile and abrasive is due to these kinds of posts? haven't you ever read those signs at the zoo in front of the open exhibits, don't feed the trolls! |
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Post by silentknight on Dec 9, 2015 13:19:14 GMT -5
Edit: I'm going to self moderate my last post in the spirit of this thread. I welcome all posts and I enjoy reading all of them. I enjoy some more than others, but I enjoy them all nevertheless. |
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Dec 9, 2015 13:54:56 GMT -5
We used to have a rule against discussing politics to keep things civil on this board. I think now we need a rule that we can ONLY discuss politics in order to keep things civil.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 21:44:40 GMT -5
Well dreamboatcruise how about we start off with something light and easy. So, what do you think of donald trump?  Lmao....just kidding  |
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Thank you for your commitment. 
Lmao....just kidding 