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Post by liane on Dec 25, 2015 15:09:22 GMT -5
PS. Both Kliff and Forbes would have more publishing credibility if they understood the distinction between successor and predecessor. I noticed that as well
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Post by nylefty on Dec 25, 2015 15:41:16 GMT -5
FWIW, I do not think speculation amounts to theory. It is what it is, based on limited information. When I have a theory I will make sure to point it out as such, so as not to cause any confusion. "Theory" is commonly used as a synonym for "speculation." www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theorytheory noun the·o·ry \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\ Simple Definition of theory : an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events : an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true
: the general principles or ideas that relate to a particular subject Full Definition of theory plural the·o·ries 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another 2 : abstract thought : speculation
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Post by greg on Dec 25, 2015 15:47:36 GMT -5
"PS. Both Kliff and Forbes would have more publishing credibility if they understood the distinction between successor and predecessor."
In addition to the error noted above, how about the following:
1. "not a creator was stirring" - how did this get through the editor? 2. "unless of course your part of the the" - how did this get through the editor? 3. "has diabetes experience" - what does this mean? 4. "he got canned" - where is the evidence of this? 5. "The irony here is that it wasn’t until after he got canned by Insulet did we discover just how badly he managed Insulet." - where is the irony? does Kliff know the meaning of irony? does the editor? 6. "appears to be getting ready to pull the plug" - where's this tidbit coming from? he doesn't have a clue. 7. "To put it bluntly Pat inherited a major mess, a mess which he is still trying to clean up today." - what's the mess? how about some substantiation for the many statements? 8. "yes the pun was intentional" - what pun? did i miss a pun anywhere in the article?
I don't expect much from Kliff. My respect for Forbes continues to sink into the abyss. The folks who continue to disseminate this sort of rubbish have my disdain. And the folks like EveningoftheDay who stubbornly want to discuss and understand karp coming from folks like Kliff, even as they claim to have little respect for those folks, should put their money in blind trust. Anyway, time to return to my self-imposed exile.
The article is complete and utter garbage. Syntax, grammar, and spelling are horrible, like something one might see on a message board or an amateur's blog. Hard to believe it went through a Forbes editor. As for the content, where's the beef??? All speculation and conclusions with zero facts to substantiate anything.
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on Dec 25, 2015 16:12:26 GMT -5
I posted my question before I saw your further speculation and therefore deleted my post, although you apparently responded to it before I deleted it. However, "theory" is often meant as a synonym for "speculation." www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theorytheory noun the·o·ry \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\ Simple Definition of theory : an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events : an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true
: the general principles or ideas that relate to a particular subject Full Definition of theory plural the·o·ries 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another 2 : abstract thought : speculationLovely, you can read a dictionary. Well, thanks for the lesson. English not being my first language sometimes is difficult to use all the accepted uses of a particular word. I was going for the more conventional meaning of theory, a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction. So I haven't developed a theory yet, but as soon as I do I will let you know.
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on Dec 25, 2015 16:25:59 GMT -5
I don't expect much from Kliff. My respect for Forbes continues to sink into the abyss. The folks who continue to disseminate this sort of rubbish have my disdain. And the folks like EveningoftheDay who stubbornly want to discuss and understand karp coming from folks like Kliff, even as they claim to have little respect for those folks, should put their money in blind trust. Anyway, time to return to my self-imposed exile. I am not sure I understand your rant, but I guess it is precisely because I do not want to put my money in blind trust that I ask questions when I think a question should be asked. I am sorry that makes you feel so uncomfortable as to have to come out of exile, but the main reason I continue frequenting this forum, despite our collective failure so far, is because there are some people that are incredibly good at researching some of the issues involved here. Thanks to them, if not richer, I have gained a great deal of understanding on why or why not Mannkind is succeeding and what are the chances it might succeed in the future, which by the way is less than certain. Both because of this and because I have a chunk of money that is enough for me to care, I come here and apparently ask questions that make some feel uncomfortable. I am just not going to apologize for it. I have been around long enough to be taken at face value. You rather believe I have an ulterior motive, as some do, be my guest, but that will not make you any more right than if you flip a coin to dictate your own future. With aloha.
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Post by nylefty on Dec 25, 2015 17:41:59 GMT -5
I posted my question before I saw your further speculation and therefore deleted my post, although you apparently responded to it before I deleted it. However, "theory" is often meant as a synonym for "speculation." www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theorytheory noun the·o·ry \ˈthē-ə-rē, ˈthir-ē\ Simple Definition of theory : an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events : an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true
: the general principles or ideas that relate to a particular subject Full Definition of theory plural the·o·ries 1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another 2 : abstract thought : speculationLovely, you can read a dictionary. Well, thanks for the lesson. English not being my first language sometimes is difficult to use all the accepted uses of a particular word. I was going for the more conventional meaning of theory, a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction. So I haven't developed a theory yet, but as soon as I do I will let you know. I didn't need a dictionary to know how the word is commonly used. English is my first language and I worked as an editor for many years (at CBS and NBC). Why the hostile attitude?
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on Dec 25, 2015 17:58:37 GMT -5
Well, you will forgive me but, perhaps mistakingly, I though you were the one displaying a bit of hostility here. If that is not the case I apologize. Apparently I ask questions that many posters are uncomfortable with and, as of late, I have been accused of spreading FUD which could not be any further from my intent. I understand many of the questions and issues I point toward, do not have answers, given the tight lid on information, but I think there are excellent researchers in this forum and people that are considerably more intelligent that me and I am always curious as to their opinions. At the same time I am getting a little tired on the pass that all positive speculation gets and how some quickly jump on those that expressed logical doubts about the situation. Regardless, I try to get along with everybody and try to be fair on my assessment of any comments, whether original or answers to mi own posts, so I am glad we can still be friends. With aloha
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 23:33:06 GMT -5
I'm cancelling my Forbes subscription on Monday and citing this article as to why. As Chris C mentions what sort of vile pos writes this about anyone on Xmas eve. I used to get freaked out but this reeks of desperation.
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Post by EveningOfTheDay on Dec 26, 2015 23:52:06 GMT -5
I have insinuated, the article is so vicious that Kliff is really deserving of defamation charges. I for one, would love to see DeSisto, Insulet and Mannkind respond to this article in a very swift and stern way. I think writers like Kliff had gotten a way with a too much innuendo in the past, but this is really well over the line, it is character assassination and deserves an answer. IMO
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Post by suebeeee1 on Dec 27, 2015 11:03:09 GMT -5
I'm cancelling my Forbes subscription on Monday and citing this article as to why. As Chris C mentions what sort of vile pos writes this about anyone on Xmas eve. I used to get freaked out but this reeks of desperation. I'm not sure it is desperation or simply business as usual. We have seen a myriad of hit articles posted over the years by those who are trying to drive sp down or keep it low. MNKD announces a positive change in management and, to insure nothing positive takes place for the next few trading days and so that some fellow shorts can exit painlessly, articles like this come out. Business as usual with MNKD.
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Post by pktrump on Dec 27, 2015 12:03:05 GMT -5
The arrogance of the shorts and the illusion of control over the share price is at an all time high.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 13:11:38 GMT -5
I'm cancelling my Forbes subscription on Monday and citing this article as to why. As Chris C mentions what sort of vile pos writes this about anyone on Xmas eve. I used to get freaked out but this reeks of desperation. I'm not sure it is desperation or simply business as usual. We have seen a myriad of hit articles posted over the years by those who are trying to drive sp down or keep it low. MNKD announces a positive change in management and, to insure nothing positive takes place for the next few trading days and so that some fellow shorts can exit painlessly, articles like this come out. Business as usual with MNKD. I agree. I dont pay attention to much of the social media stuff but while at my in laws on xmas I tried to pretend take a nap for a bit and was reading some articles on my phone. Its really interesting that someone like Kliff who has zero interest in Afrezza tweets about it non stop. Literally all his tweets are negative against MNKD. Has he admitted being short?
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Post by mnholdem on Dec 27, 2015 13:24:54 GMT -5
The arrogance of the shorts and the illusion of control over the share price is at an all time high. Both of which could be short-circuited with either a sharp pick up in Afrezza sale$ or announcement of another API partnership. I think the short position seems more precarious each month.
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Post by careful2invest on Dec 28, 2015 3:11:09 GMT -5
The arrogance of the shorts and the illusion of control over the share price is at an all time high. I have owned this stock (MNKD) for over six years. it appears to me that it is much more than an illusion that shorts have controlled the pps. IMHO, Shorts have absolutely controlled the the price of this stock all along, and yes they are arrogant! However, I believe that their reign is nearing an end. The technology behind AFREZZA/TECHNOSPHERE is too solid for them to hold down forever. GLTA TRUE LONGS!
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