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Post by figglebird on Jan 24, 2016 11:53:40 GMT -5
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
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Post by figglebird on Jan 24, 2016 12:02:03 GMT -5
There is no meaningful answer any legit short position can offer bc of the threat - this is a designed tactic that showcases our exclusive technology that has been held in limbo fir the past 18 months - likely on purpose.
It all comes down to the transfer technology clause in the supply agreement Between sny and mnkd.
This clause is a primary indication of al's leverage which is now being utalized in a perfectly timed event.
As i said bf well played.
Not looking to any magified shift short term but IT has begun - and by it I mean the road toega vap valuation - time is on our side regardless of what others would have u believe.
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Post by bretzyboy on Jan 24, 2016 12:04:53 GMT -5
Stevil, you certainly have no reason to apologize in my opinion. Yours are among the few posts I take the time to read. I'm a long share holder and have been off and on since discovering MNKD in an article by Joe Springer on SA. Wether or not anyone else believes that means nothing to me. My view is very much aligned with yours, and you express similar thoughts to my own more eloquently than I believe I could. Your comments attract a degree of intolerance from others, sometimes even to the point of being unjustly personal. Personally I don't believe that being intolerant somehow extrapolates into guaranteed success. One characteristic I've noticed from the most vocal of the good news only crowd is support for the company, but with the added compulsion to offer micro management advice to tailor the administrative direction to their liking. That's hard for me to reconcile as nothing more than pyschological conflict.
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Post by stevil on Jan 24, 2016 12:17:36 GMT -5
Stevil, you certainly have no reason to apologize in my opinion. Yours are among the few posts I take the time to read. I'm a long share holder and have been off and on since discovering MNKD in an article by Joe Springer on SA. Wether or not anyone else believes that means nothing to me. My view is very much aligned with yours, and you express similar thoughts to my own more eloquently than I believe I could. Your comments attract a degree of intolerance from others, sometimes even to the point of being unjustly personal. Personally I don't believe that being intolerant somehow extrapolates into guaranteed success. One characteristic I've noticed from the most vocal of the good news only crowd is support for the company, but with the added compulsion to offer micro management advice to tailor the administrative direction to their liking. That's hard for me to reconcile as nothing more than pyschological conflict. Thanks for the kind words. I really do try to play nice in the sandbox, but I'm human and my emotions get the best of me. It's nice to know my time here hasn't been completely wasted. I really haven't picked a side... I'm here to fight for "Truth", as much as she can be found. I just find myself currently in the short camp and I'm challenging others to pull me over to the long camp in a tug of war. It's unfortunate that I become the topic for debate rather than the issues I point to, but it is what it is...
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Post by dictatorsaurus on Jan 24, 2016 12:27:49 GMT -5
We are past the frustration stage and slowly crossing the line into the land of dispair and surrender. In theory the SP should be at $50 and half of us should be millionares sitting back smiling at our retirement accounts. But reality is much different.
Both arguments are correct. There is no right or wrong. People have different ways expressing their thoughts even though all our goals are the same, for MNKD to succeed.
When the SNY deal was signed the stock soared, only to drop again shortly after. One step forward two steps back. The Receptor deal might make a difference in the long run. But what else is lined up short term?
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Post by kbrion77 on Jan 24, 2016 12:53:54 GMT -5
We are past the frustration stage and slowly crossing the line into the land of dispair and surrender. In theory the SP should be at $50 and half of us should be millionares sitting back smiling at our retirement accounts. But reality is much different. Both arguments are correct. There is no right or wrong. People have different ways expressing their thoughts even though all our goals are the same, for MNKD to succeed. When the SNY deal was signed the stock soared, only to drop again shortly after. One step forward two steps back. The Receptor deal might make a difference in the long run. But what else is lined up short term? Maybe everyone just needs to revisit why they invested in MNKD in the first place. If the company didn't take the financial measures they did Afrezza would not be on the market today and unfortunately they had to shelve other products. I think in the next few months this board is going become a lot to handle for people so I hope moderators are ready to work overtime. In my opinion in the next 6 months we will find out whether this company will remain operational or be broken apart and sold off. Good luck to shareholders who believe in the technology and products and most of all good luck to the almost 400 million diabetics in the world who continue to suffer each and every single with this horrendous disease.
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Post by nylefty on Jan 25, 2016 19:32:45 GMT -5
Stevil, you certainly have no reason to apologize in my opinion. Thanks for the kind words. I really do try to play nice in the sandbox, but I'm human and my emotions get the best of me. It's nice to know my time here hasn't been completely wasted. I really haven't picked a side... I'm here to fight for "Truth", as much as she can be found. I just find myself currently in the short camp and I'm challenging others to pull me over to the long camp in a tug of war. It's unfortunate that I become the topic for debate rather than the issues I point to, but it is what it is... Stevil: So you're a short and therefore it's in your best interest to continue your soft bashing of MannKind. Got it. And no, I'm not going to make the effort to pull you over to the long side. I just believe that in the long run you'll be proven wrong. Big time.
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Post by stevil on Jan 25, 2016 23:50:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the kind words. I really do try to play nice in the sandbox, but I'm human and my emotions get the best of me. It's nice to know my time here hasn't been completely wasted. I really haven't picked a side... I'm here to fight for "Truth", as much as she can be found. I just find myself currently in the short camp and I'm challenging others to pull me over to the long camp in a tug of war. It's unfortunate that I become the topic for debate rather than the issues I point to, but it is what it is... Stevil: So you're a short and therefore it's in your best interest to continue your soft bashing of MannKind. Got it. And no, I'm not going to make the effort to pull you over to the long side. I just believe that in the long run you'll be proven wrong. Big time. I've said it many times... I want to be proven wrong. There's a lot of my money left on the table if I'm right. I got sucked into the hope as well. It's obviously not too late. And there's still some hope left...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 23:59:12 GMT -5
Stevil: So you're a short and therefore it's in your best interest to continue your soft bashing of MannKind. Got it. And no, I'm not going to make the effort to pull you over to the long side. I just believe that in the long run you'll be proven wrong. Big time. I've said it many times... I want to be proven wrong. There's a lot of my money left on the table if I'm right. I got sucked into the hope as well. It's obviously not too late. And there's still some hope left... Do you currently hold a short position?
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Post by stevil on Jan 26, 2016 0:04:24 GMT -5
I've said it many times... I want to be proven wrong. There's a lot of my money left on the table if I'm right. I got sucked into the hope as well. It's obviously not too late. And there's still some hope left... Do you currently hold a short position? No. I have stated many, many times that I am holding my shares and I would never short this stock
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Post by matt on Jan 26, 2016 9:14:20 GMT -5
Why is it that whenever anybody asks good questions they are accused of being a "soft basher". This is a financial investment opportunity, not a religion. Stevil may not be a true believer, but that doesn't mean he is going to hell.
Those that throw around ad hominem arguments to quiet opinions they don't like are either delusional or suffering from a terrible case of cognitive dissonance. Many such people make liberal use of the "block" or "ignore" feature on other sites, but just because somebody has an opinion that is contrary to yours doesn't mean it is invalid. Unless the poster is an obvious shill, read it, consider it, and then act as you deem appropriate. That is how you learn new information; burying your head in the sand just gets your hair dirty.
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Post by bioexec25 on Jan 26, 2016 9:18:04 GMT -5
Well said. Back in the day we called that Critical Thinking or Constructive Confrontation.
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Post by kball on Jan 26, 2016 9:20:52 GMT -5
Why is it that whenever anybody asks good questions they are accused of being a "soft basher". This is a financial investment opportunity, not a religion. Stevil may not be a true believer, but that doesn't mean he is going to hell. Those that throw around ad hominem arguments to quiet opinions they don't like are either delusional or suffering from a terrible case of cognitive dissonance. Many such people make liberal use of the "block" or "ignore" feature on other sites, but just because somebody has an opinion that is contrary to yours doesn't mean it is invalid. Unless the poster is an obvious shill, read it, consider it, and then act as you deem appropriate. That is how you learn new information; burying your head in the sand just gets your hair dirty.Not to mention has a way of suffocating the head sticker.
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Post by me on Jan 26, 2016 10:39:47 GMT -5
Why is it that whenever anybody asks good questions they are accused of being a "soft basher". This is a financial investment opportunity, not a religion. Stevil may not be a true believer, but that doesn't mean he is going to hell. Those that throw around ad hominem arguments to quiet opinions they don't like are either delusional or suffering from a terrible case of cognitive dissonance. Many such people make liberal use of the "block" or "ignore" feature on other sites, but just because somebody has an opinion that is contrary to yours doesn't mean it is invalid. Unless the poster is an obvious shill, read it, consider it, and then act as you deem appropriate. That is how you learn new information; burying your head in the sand just gets your hair dirty. matt , I suppose it all boils down to how you define, "good questions." For example, just as a lawyer's question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" is a seemingly straightforward question with an expected binary response, it actually represents a very subtle logical fallacy. Posters can ask "good questions" all day long, but when those questions are reviewed in the context of their entire posting history, the "good questions" may appear to be none other than a litany of attempts to instill, Distress, Apprehension and Skepticism. DAS, if you prefer, rather than FUD. It is still mind-boggling to me how anyone who could benefit by the success of MNKD and its products, would seek to continuously express their extreme doubt about their investment on this board! Do they really care for the financial well-being of all the rest of us? Are they really looking out for our best interests? Are they trying to warn us away from this horrible investment? Do they suppose we should all take our investment advice from them? I've asked before, so I'll ask again: How is it that any of these posters, accused of being "soft bashers" by some and defended by others such as yourself, can gain anything financially by continuously posting "good" question after "good" question, the forms of which, regardless of the responses, represent only doom and gloom? Again, if I were a non-investor in MNKD reading his board, my first reaction would be, if these individuals really believe in the prospects of MNKD implied in their questions, why in the world do they waste their time here? matt , this is the real question that has not been adequately answered by these numerous soft bashers. By the way, opinions are NEVER invalid. Only facts can be invalid.
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Post by mnholdem on Jan 26, 2016 11:57:14 GMT -5
Why is it that whenever anybody asks good questions they are accused of being a "soft basher". This is a financial investment opportunity, not a religion. Stevil may not be a true believer, but that doesn't mean he is going to hell. That's true. stevil is studying to become a doctor, not a lawyer...
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