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Post by sweedee79 on Jan 26, 2016 12:34:13 GMT -5
I love to hear differing opinions... both good and bad as long as they are sincere and honest with no agenda behind them.. the problem I have with Stevil is that he comes across as judgmental and condescending.. He might get a better response with another approach..
I have thought that I should change my profile pic to something other than a blonde girl after hearing from Stevil... but then I just decided to ignore it..
But yes, I have noticed on YMB, that ANYTHING to the contrary of peoples positive hopes gets attacked, not so much here on proboards which is refreshing... we need to hear all sides of things, not just the good and be honest with ourselves... pie in the sky hope is not a good basis for an investment.. Many of us however are underwater here, and are looking for signs of hope .. I think we are all aware of the dire situation..
I invested because I believe in Afrezza and Al Mann. I still believe , however after my personal experiences with docs and insurance companies I discovered the obstacles we were facing. The questions are now, can we market this innovative drug with the label that we have, or can we find a creative way around this, and do we have the money to do it. ? Honestly I didn't see any of this coming when I first invested. It was a speculative investment I made based on one thing... my belief in Afrezza.... It seems right now, that no matter how good Afrezza is... it is the marketing and other circumstances that will decide the fate of my investment. Therefore, everything counts including this new relationship with Receptor life.
Regarding FUD ..... It is my opinion that there are those out there spreading FUD in a very systematic manner... possibly in collusion with big banks etc... and yes I DO have a problem with that ..
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Post by peppy on Jan 26, 2016 12:45:33 GMT -5
I think it is a licensing agreement, hopefully one of many. Technosphere is a big deal in that it can deliver peptides.
I swear pharma needs these patents. MNKD a patent licensing company.
added: after april 4th I expect a Afrezza price adjustment. Then Europe and asia, mid east agency approval requests would make sense.
This price adjustment has to come before European application for sure.
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Post by kball on Jan 26, 2016 12:57:57 GMT -5
I love to hear differing opinions... both good and bad as long as they are sincere and honest with no agenda behind them.. the problem I have with Stevil is that he comes across as judgmental and condescending.. He might get a better response with another approach..
I have thought that I should change my profile pic to something other than a blonde girl after hearing from Stevil... but then I just decided to ignore it..
-snip- I'd say both Stevil and Matt are 2 of the newer posters here i carefully read the most. They aren't cheerleaders and both seem to come at the company from a very knowledgable perspective that adds to the discourse a lot. ...and the pic is fine imho...even though the lipstick wore off around the time of the stock tank
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Post by stevil on Jan 26, 2016 14:29:16 GMT -5
Why is it that whenever anybody asks good questions they are accused of being a "soft basher". This is a financial investment opportunity, not a religion. Stevil may not be a true believer, but that doesn't mean he is going to hell. Those that throw around ad hominem arguments to quiet opinions they don't like are either delusional or suffering from a terrible case of cognitive dissonance. Many such people make liberal use of the "block" or "ignore" feature on other sites, but just because somebody has an opinion that is contrary to yours doesn't mean it is invalid. Unless the poster is an obvious shill, read it, consider it, and then act as you deem appropriate. That is how you learn new information; burying your head in the sand just gets your hair dirty. matt , I suppose it all boils down to how you define, "good questions." For example, just as a lawyer's question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" is a seemingly straightforward question with an expected binary response, it actually represents a very subtle logical fallacy. Posters can ask "good questions" all day long, but when those questions are reviewed in the context of their entire posting history, the "good questions" may appear to be none other than a litany of attempts to instill, Distress, Apprehension and Skepticism. DAS, if you prefer, rather than FUD. It is still mind-boggling to me how anyone who could benefit by the success of MNKD and its products, would seek to continuously express their extreme doubt about their investment on this board! Do they really care for the financial well-being of all the rest of us? Are they really looking out for our best interests? Are they trying to warn us away from this horrible investment? Do they suppose we should all take our investment advice from them? I've asked before, so I'll ask again: How is it that any of these posters, accused of being "soft bashers" by some and defended by others such as yourself, can gain anything financially by continuously posting "good" question after "good" question, the forms of which, regardless of the responses, represent only doom and gloom? Again, if I were a non-investor in MNKD reading his board, my first reaction would be, if these individuals really believe in the prospects of MNKD implied in their questions, why in the world do they waste their time here? matt , this is the real question that has not been adequately answered by these numerous soft bashers. By the way, opinions are NEVER invalid. Only facts can be invalid. To answer your question, yes, I do truly care about people on here. I'll be the first to admit that I might have a comment or two that might offend the PC police, so my intentions may come across as mixed messages. However, (and I've stated this before) that the majority of the reason that I have such a staunch stance on the negative side is because this board is predominantly one-sided. I'm an advocate for the other side. I do want people to be exposed to every variable possible so that they can make a proper analysis. Researching the other side also helps me because it helps me form an opinion on where I really stand. The more I researched and consider "the other side", the more it pulled me over there. I would challenge you to consider what you said- and this is pretty much the thesis for my stance- if every "good" question represents only doom and gloom, what does that say about the direction of the company? Right now, it really only boils down to 3 questions. 1. How will we solve our short term financial problem? 2. Is what we're doing currently sufficient to solve #1? 3. Is anything in the future going to materialize quickly enough to satisfy our debtors and keep the lights on? I'll let you answer those questions for yourself. But please don't pretend I haven't answered these very questions, as well as your own personal questions as to why I'm still here. I have many, many times. Whether you choose to believe my intentions or not is up to you. But I have stated them honestly over and over. Never in my wildest imagination did I think I would constantly become the center of debate. This wasn't the reason I joined the board. I just noticed that people were coming up with these crazy, speculative stories that never turned out to be correct and everyone seemed to feed off of one another. So when I kept seeing people say that they were buying up gobs and gobs of stock when my perception of reality was drastically different than the common groupthink here, and when I found that my perception was more correct than the common groupthink (at least short term), I gained confidence enough to speak out. I learned to trust my instincts. I'm not the authoritative voice on anything. I'm no more qualified than anyone else to make predictions and guidance for the company. But I do know that my strengths are in logic, reasoning, and analysis. So I challenge people according to those strengths. I don't have time to do the research of some of the posters here, so I count on them to help save me time. Some people are really good at digging stuff up. Unfortunately, some people are also really good at curving some pretty radical lines to connect dots. I come here to challenge others to think critically. I don't understand why they take it as such a personal assault. I'll even alert the PC police here again and say that for the people who do feel like they're being assaulted, it might be a good time to take a step back and reflect on this stock. Because you should never invest in a stock you're emotionally tied to.
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Post by stevil on Jan 26, 2016 14:29:59 GMT -5
Why is it that whenever anybody asks good questions they are accused of being a "soft basher". This is a financial investment opportunity, not a religion. Stevil may not be a true believer, but that doesn't mean he is going to hell. That's true. stevil is studying to become a doctor, not a lawyer... haha hope there aren't any lawyers on the board
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Post by stevil on Jan 26, 2016 14:34:37 GMT -5
I love to hear differing opinions... both good and bad as long as they are sincere and honest with no agenda behind them.. the problem I have with Stevil is that he comes across as judgmental and condescending.. He might get a better response with another approach..
I have thought that I should change my profile pic to something other than a blonde girl after hearing from Stevil... but then I just decided to ignore it..
But yes, I have noticed on YMB, that ANYTHING to the contrary of peoples positive hopes gets attacked, not so much here on proboards which is refreshing... we need to hear all sides of things, not just the good and be honest with ourselves... pie in the sky hope is not a good basis for an investment.. Many of us however are underwater here, and are looking for signs of hope .. I think we are all aware of the dire situation..
I invested because I believe in Afrezza and Al Mann. I still believe , however after my personal experiences with docs and insurance companies I discovered the obstacles we were facing. The questions are now, can we market this innovative drug with the label that we have, or can we find a creative way around this, and do we have the money to do it. ? Honestly I didn't see any of this coming when I first invested. It was a speculative investment I made based on one thing... my belief in Afrezza.... It seems right now, that no matter how good Afrezza is... it is the marketing and other circumstances that will decide the fate of my investment. Therefore, everything counts including this new relationship with Receptor life.
Regarding FUD ..... It is my opinion that there are those out there spreading FUD in a very systematic manner... possibly in collusion with big banks etc... and yes I DO have a problem with that .. My apologies to you and anyone else if I have come across as being judgemental or condescending. That has not been my intention. I'll try to do a better job of representing my opinions without being so abrasive.
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Post by thekindaguyiyam on Jan 26, 2016 14:41:08 GMT -5
I've heard you say this many times. Each time it means less than the last. However; that's just my "opinion" stevil. There are most likely more attorney's reading these posts than "pretend" "make believe" medical students who spend all there time on a message board than learning the science they are taught in "med school". "Physician: Heal Thyself" there are many good mental health physicians who can give candidates like you assistance.
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Post by sweedee79 on Jan 26, 2016 23:54:58 GMT -5
To answer your question, yes, I do truly care about people on here. I'll be the first to admit that I might have a comment or two that might offend the PC police, so my intentions may come across as mixed messages. However, (and I've stated this before) that the majority of the reason that I have such a staunch stance on the negative side is because this board is predominantly one-sided. I'm an advocate for the other side. I do want people to be exposed to every variable possible so that they can make a proper analysis. Researching the other side also helps me because it helps me form an opinion on where I really stand. The more I researched and consider "the other side", the more it pulled me over there. I would challenge you to consider what you said- and this is pretty much the thesis for my stance- if every "good" question represents only doom and gloom, what does that say about the direction of the company? Right now, it really only boils down to 3 questions. 1. How will we solve our short term financial problem? 2. Is what we're doing currently sufficient to solve #1? 3. Is anything in the future going to materialize quickly enough to satisfy our debtors and keep the lights on? I'll let you answer those questions for yourself. But please don't pretend I haven't answered these very questions, as well as your own personal questions as to why I'm still here. I have many, many times. Whether you choose to believe my intentions or not is up to you. But I have stated them honestly over and over. Never in my wildest imagination did I think I would constantly become the center of debate. This wasn't the reason I joined the board. I just noticed that people were coming up with these crazy, speculative stories that never turned out to be correct and everyone seemed to feed off of one another. So when I kept seeing people say that they were buying up gobs and gobs of stock when my perception of reality was drastically different than the common groupthink here, and when I found that my perception was more correct than the common groupthink (at least short term), I gained confidence enough to speak out. I learned to trust my instincts. I'm not the authoritative voice on anything. I'm no more qualified than anyone else to make predictions and guidance for the company. But I do know that my strengths are in logic, reasoning, and analysis. So I challenge people according to those strengths. I don't have time to do the research of some of the posters here, so I count on them to help save me time. Some people are really good at digging stuff up. Unfortunately, some people are also really good at curving some pretty radical lines to connect dots. I come here to challenge others to think critically. I don't understand why they take it as such a personal assault. I'll even alert the PC police here again and say that for the people who do feel like they're being assaulted, it might be a good time to take a step back and reflect on this stock. Because you should never invest in a stock you're emotionally tied to. I agree with just about everything you said in this post.. yes there could be such a thing as "group think" with MNKD long investors... I haven't noticed this so much here ..people seem more open to see both sides.... YMB has a bad case of group think.. I welcome any thoughts that are honest and sincere... I don't find your opinions about the stock itself to be abrasive at all... Regarding people's wild speculations... to each his own.. I don't care, I'm open to hearing wild speculation as well and capable of deciphering what I want to believe or not .. we are all big boys and girls ..
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Post by dpca10 on Jan 27, 2016 19:20:49 GMT -5
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