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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 13:44:22 GMT -5
You may want to look @ tresiba and the good ole lantus - One injection a day..I wonder who got of those pumps after years of pumping are doing about their basal rates? I have used Lantus although I split the dose because Lantus doesn't quite last 24 hours unless you are on large doses. I expect the people who got rid of their pumps live with the fluctuations and exercise problems because for them not having a pump is worth it. Nope... Str8 lines all the way and the best A1c's .. They were given a tool and they figured out how to use it
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Post by peppy on Feb 28, 2016 13:57:13 GMT -5
The above post, makes me wish Vdex was verify and dexcom. What google , (verify,) could do with that data collection. (Verify) true data.
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Post by 4allthemarbles on Feb 28, 2016 16:42:54 GMT -5
I have used Lantus although I split the dose because Lantus doesn't quite last 24 hours unless you are on large doses. I expect the people who got rid of their pumps live with the fluctuations and exercise problems because for them not having a pump is worth it. Nope... Str8 lines all the way and the best A1c's .. They were given a tool and they figured out how to use it You want testimony? I got your testimony right here! Lol
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Feb 28, 2016 18:02:10 GMT -5
Does someone know Eric well enough to get some details about the protocols they have developed. I am curious to what extent they will target T1 vs T2 and to what extent CGMs might be employed. I wonder if all these T1s with great CGM lines feel they could do it almost as well without the CGM... supporting the idea that these clinics could employee a learning period with a loaned CGM vs fighting payers to get people their own.
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 28, 2016 19:14:34 GMT -5
I have used Lantus although I split the dose because Lantus doesn't quite last 24 hours unless you are on large doses. I expect the people who got rid of their pumps live with the fluctuations and exercise problems because for them not having a pump is worth it. Nope... Str8 lines all the way and the best A1c's .. They were given a tool and they figured out how to use it It's an impressive response during the day, but you are getting 40 point fluctuations at night (100 +/- 20 points). How does that work with exercise? Exercise bypasses the need for insulin and pulls glucose straight out of the blood so the basal has the effect of stacking insulin. With a pump you suspend the pump for a bit, with injected basal you snack before exercise. The CGM data is good but what you need to see alongside that is the food diary and the dosing that goes with it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 21:10:02 GMT -5
Nope... Str8 lines all the way and the best A1c's .. They were given a tool and they figured out how to use it It's an impressive response during the day, but you are getting 40 point fluctuations at night (100 +/- 20 points). How does that work with exercise? Exercise bypasses the need for insulin and pulls glucose straight out of the blood so the basal has the effect of stacking insulin. With a pump you suspend the pump for a bit, with injected basal you snack before exercise. The CGM data is good but what you need to see alongside that is the food diary and the dosing that goes with it. This exercise of a triathlete good enough? diatriguy.tumblr.com/
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 28, 2016 21:35:55 GMT -5
It's an impressive response during the day, but you are getting 40 point fluctuations at night (100 +/- 20 points). How does that work with exercise? Exercise bypasses the need for insulin and pulls glucose straight out of the blood so the basal has the effect of stacking insulin. With a pump you suspend the pump for a bit, with injected basal you snack before exercise. The CGM data is good but what you need to see alongside that is the food diary and the dosing that goes with it. This exercise of a triathlete good enough? diatriguy.tumblr.com/ Not really, I was looking for someone a little more normal! That aside the results are good for his post training meals. I don't think I would like those 150 point drops in 15 minutes he does, but that's personal (fast drops make me feel washed out). The ability to nail down spikes on eating is the most impressive part for me. I was particularly impressed by Matt drinking 3 dextrose drinks for the Afrezza heat test (a) because they are disgusting, and (b) because that would have spiked me up 140 to 180 point over the next 15 minutes but in his case the line barely flickered.
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Post by agedhippie on Feb 28, 2016 21:46:13 GMT -5
Because the insulin delivery with the artificial pancreas is subq, the artificial pancreas is a story. faster insulins... faster subj insulins. hmmmmm. The Novo Nordisk FIAsp insulin is through Phase 3a and about to enter Phase 3 proper. The Phase 3a results gave statistically significant improvements so it can advertise as a superior insulin. The curves and characteristics are still not fast enough I think. There are other insulins but I really don't like the way those others get their speed (essentially they break down the SC fat). For an AP the insulin has to be dispensed by the pump otherwise it cannot track dosing or give micro doses.
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