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Oct 17, 2016 21:40:30 GMT -5
Post by agedhippie on Oct 17, 2016 21:40:30 GMT -5
I don't think they can advertise the specific components like Afrezza without running foul of the FDA. He said advertising results. Why would some one advertise the treatment and protocol? They want to advertise results to drive traffic You could advertise your patients results, you could not advertise the drugs used without FDA approval. |
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Post by agedhippie on Oct 17, 2016 21:43:44 GMT -5
[Tweet image deleted] rrtzrealmd @rrtzrealmd @russian_Influx @rooksleanne @nih101 So what? Will insurance cover their services? Likely NOT, and then they will go the way of afrezza. Integrated Diabetes does not take insurance but they have been in business for years offering a very similar service. People pay IDS because they get good results, I see no reason why VDex should not be the same. |
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Oct 17, 2016 21:45:24 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 21:45:24 GMT -5
He said advertising results. Why would some one advertise the treatment and protocol? They want to advertise results to drive traffic You could advertise your patients results, you could not advertise the drugs used without FDA approval. Guess , I said same thing. May be I mis read your original reply to Manmade as mentioned that they could advertise their results on Afrezza which means they advertise the results and not Afrezza. mnkd.proboards.com/post/83033 |
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Post by mannmade on Oct 17, 2016 22:12:16 GMT -5
He said advertising results. Why would some one advertise the treatment and protocol? They want to advertise results to drive traffic You could advertise your patients results, you could not advertise the drugs used without FDA approval. Exactly... |
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Oct 17, 2016 22:43:53 GMT -5
Post by tayl5 on Oct 17, 2016 22:43:53 GMT -5
[Tweet image deleted] rrtzrealmd @rrtzrealmd @russian_Influx @rooksleanne @nih101 So what? Will insurance cover their services? Likely NOT, and then they will go the way of afrezza. Integrated Diabetes does not take insurance but they have been in business for years offering a very similar service. People pay IDS because they get good results, I see no reason why VDex should not be the same. These days so many people have high deductible insurance policies that lower-cost providers can offer products and services not covered by insurance. The patients figure they will likely not reach their deductible so they might as well just pay out of pocket, although if I were a diabetic not using Afrezza to lower my A1c, I might not make that assumption. |
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Post by mnkdnut on Oct 18, 2016 20:01:32 GMT -5
My hope for Vdex is that they become so successful in treating diabetics with Afrezza that endos in their areas start to take notice. Some will go into denial and complain bitterly about it, but others will decide Vdex is eating their lunch and address it by going into direct competition with Vdex by becoming Afrezza proponents. We can only hope MNKD survives to see that day.
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Oct 18, 2016 20:13:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 20:13:54 GMT -5
My hope for Vdex is that they become so successful in treating diabetics with Afrezza that endos in their areas start to take notice. Some will go into denial and complain bitterly about it, but others will decide Vdex is eating their lunch and address it by going into direct competition with Vdex by becoming Afrezza proponents. We can only hope MNKD survives to see that day. Agreed and with less overhead, no insurance issues cos I assume they are cash only, being able to help titrate with the treatment protocol . cash price Afrezza should be the last piece of puzzle.. is Mannkind on board? |
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Oct 18, 2016 20:26:31 GMT -5
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Post by sportsrancho on Oct 18, 2016 20:26:31 GMT -5
My hope for Vdex is that they become so successful in treating diabetics with Afrezza that endos in their areas start to take notice. Some will go into denial and complain bitterly about it, but others will decide Vdex is eating their lunch and address it by going into direct competition with Vdex by becoming Afrezza proponents. We can only hope MNKD survives to see that day. Agreed and with less overhead, no insurance issues cos I assume they are cash only, being able to help titrate with the treatment protocol . cash price Afrezza should be the last piece of puzzle.. is Mannkind on board? I believe Vdex takes insurance. The neuropathy clinics take cash. That was why they were working on a way to help each other. |
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Oct 18, 2016 20:46:26 GMT -5
On their Facebook page someone asked if they take insurance and the reply was a short "yes". Didn't say which insurance, or indicate they meant "most" insurance.
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Post by agedhippie on Oct 18, 2016 20:50:19 GMT -5
Agreed and with less overhead, no insurance issues cos I assume they are cash only, being able to help titrate with the treatment protocol . cash price Afrezza should be the last piece of puzzle.. is Mannkind on board? I believe Vdex takes insurance. The neuropathy clinics take cash. That was why they were working on a way to help each other. I am not sure that they will take insurance because the reimbursement rates are awful. Historically diabetes clinics that relied on insurance go out of business (hospital group clinics are subsidized by the hospital). Of course if you can go out of network then you can at least recover some of the cost. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 21:08:08 GMT -5
I believe Vdex takes insurance. The neuropathy clinics take cash. That was why they were working on a way to help each other. I am not sure that they will take insurance because the reimbursement rates are awful. Historically diabetes clinics that relied on insurance go out of business (hospital group clinics are subsidized by the hospital). Of course if you can go out of network then you can at least recover some of the cost. re imbursement rates are for in network. I doubt Vdex is negogtiating with insurers. When they say , they will take insurance, they probably meant , they can bill insurance which will be treated as out of network by insurance co and costs passed on to the subscriber. Some plans are generous , like the one offered by my employer which is a ppo plan and I am free to choose where I can go and I can still get reimbursed a majority portion of the cost , and would cost me more than what would cost me by going to an in network provider. out of network providers can bill the insurance company what ever they choose to |
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Oct 18, 2016 22:00:55 GMT -5
Post by nylefty on Oct 18, 2016 22:00:55 GMT -5
My hope for Vdex is that they become so successful in treating diabetics with Afrezza that endos in their areas start to take notice. Some will go into denial and complain bitterly about it, but others will decide Vdex is eating their lunch and address it by going into direct competition with Vdex by becoming Afrezza proponents. We can only hope MNKD survives to see that day. Agreed and with less overhead, no insurance issues cos I assume they are cash only, being able to help titrate with the treatment protocol . cash price Afrezza should be the last piece of puzzle... is Mannkind on board?On board with what? Presumably Vdex will be issuing prescriptions that patients will then take to their pharmacies. Are you suggesting that Vdex will be selling Afrezza directly? |
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Oct 18, 2016 22:35:03 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 22:35:03 GMT -5
Agreed and with less overhead, no insurance issues cos I assume they are cash only, being able to help titrate with the treatment protocol . cash price Afrezza should be the last piece of puzzle... is Mannkind on board?On board with what? Presumably Vdex will be issuing prescriptions that patients will then take to their pharmacies. Are you suggesting that Vdex will be selling Afrezza directly? cash pricing on Afrezza is what i meant. |
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Oct 19, 2016 2:24:02 GMT -5
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Post by dictatorsaurus on Oct 19, 2016 2:24:02 GMT -5
So you're saying VDEX will be offered special pricing? How does that work?
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Oct 21, 2016 2:27:00 GMT -5
Post by audiomr on Oct 21, 2016 2:27:00 GMT -5
VDEX website now lists the Canoga Park clinic as open for business.
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