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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2016 19:42:32 GMT -5
I agree on so many levels. "Consider Sanders's "Medicare for all" proposal, which would cost $14 trillion over ten years, increase taxes, and eliminate private insurance in favor of a fully government-run system. According to Sanders, Americans would no longer have to pay deductibles or co-pays, search for in-network doctors, or deal with insurance hassles. " "If it sounds too good to be true, that's because it is. For evidence, look no further than Canada's single-payer system. " " To keep a lid on health costs, Canadian officials ration care. Canada ranks last among 11 industrialized nations in the ability of a patient to get a same-day or next-day appointment with a doctor. It also has the worst emergency room wait times. More than one-quarter of patients wait four or more hours to be treated." "It gets worse. After being referred to a specialist by a primary car doctor, Canadian patients wait four and a half months for treatment, on average. Wait times for MRIs are more than eight weeks; for CT scans, patients wait almost four weeks. " "As a native-born Canadian, I've witnessed this sort of rationing firsthand. My own mother died from colon cancer after doctors delayed her colonoscopy so younger people on the waiting list could go first." " Health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act will rise sharply in 2017. A report out Monday from the Department of Health & Human Services finds that the average cost for the benchmark silver plan will experience a 22% hike." There are now people paying more under obamacare, families with kids who can now not afford it. Obama lied. He said keep your doctor and lower premiums. Yet these left wing liberals who didn't even read the bill passed it even though the american people did not want it by a 2 to 1 margin. There are 35 million people in Canada and 350 million people in america. Big difference. Most recent study shows Canada's middle and upper class come to the US for healthcare. Typical libs always wanting worse healthcare by taking(taxing) lower and middle class people and continue building on the 20 trillion dollar debt. 45 million on welfare under obama and growing. Obama has created more debt than all the previous presidents combined. We have gov't healthcare in the usa, I should know as a VETERAN. Obama and thelibs have destroyed the VA hospitals and VA care. Yea the gov't running healthcare will cost more. Why? Greedy libs wanting more taxmoney to fund projects like how turtles mate. I've been to a VA hospital, I have helped my fellow veterans, I have watched them die waiting on the gov't controlling these VA hospitals make him wait and wait. You want socialism, head to Venezuela or Cuba, see how much you like it. If your post was a joke I apologize , if you are just ignorant , I feel sorry for you. Your response is classic GOP, but, I'm ok with that. With regards to politics, I could care less. I'm not a dem or a GOP. Instead, I prefer common sense and that transcends party politics. I believe in what works not what's political. So, in response and with respect: 1. Regarding health care rationing, calling out canada is funny since here in the US we DO ration healthcare and have been doing it since the beginning. How? If you can't afford healthcare, then many times you don't get health care in the US. Sounds like rationing to me. Rationing, by definition, is giving what's available when it's available which is part of the real world, unless you think there's unlimited supplies of pills, doctors, hospitals, etc in our healthcare system in the US?! No? Well then, it gets rationed and usually goes to the people who can afford to pay FIRST. Exceptions? Sure. But in general, that's the truth. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_rationing_in_the_United_States2. ability to get next day appt's - you mean like taking 4 months to get an endo appt only to find out that endo won't prescribe afrezza? Is that the kind of quick access to specialists that is superior in the US? Because, heads up, that's bullsh-t. Just try to get an appt with a specialist in the US the next day......lol 3. "My own mother died from colon cancer after doctors delayed her colonoscopy so younger people on the waiting list could go first"....I'm sorry to hear that. I truly am. People die every day in the US because they couldn't afford their healthcare cost so while I sympathize with your personal situation, it's not unique to canada. obamacarefacts.com/facts-on-deaths-due-to-lack-of-health-insurance-in-us/4. "Health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act will rise sharply in 2017. A report out Monday from the Department of Health & Human Services finds that the average cost for the benchmark silver plan will experience a 22% hike" - yep, and, what was the rate of increase prior to the ACA on a plan where you could get dumped for just getting sick? 5. Left wing liberals? Um, sure, whatever. And conservatives figured out all the problems with perfect answers (lol.....) during the 80's and 2000-2008 - yep, no problems there....all perfect....all good  Healthcare isn't about politics for me so ease up on the name calling. The rest of your post is political whining, as if that's helped anyone like ever. Go vote trump, I'm sure he'll help your healthcare situation because, as we all know, he's really interested in people's lives and well being. Supporting claims that canadians go elsewhere for healthcare, but, read the whole article. If you read the entire article, you'll notice some reality in there about supply and demand. www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-08-03/canadians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-careOr, for the other side of the coin, you can read: www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13222798/canadians-seeking-medical-care-us-trump-debate |
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Post by surplusvalue on Oct 28, 2016 20:37:57 GMT -5
"Consider Sanders's "Medicare for all" proposal, which would cost $14 trillion over ten years, increase taxes, and eliminate private insurance in favor of a fully government-run system. According to Sanders, Americans would no longer have to pay deductibles or co-pays, search for in-network doctors, or deal with insurance hassles. " "If it sounds too good to be true, that's because it is. For evidence, look no further than Canada's single-payer system. " " To keep a lid on health costs, Canadian officials ration care. Canada ranks last among 11 industrialized nations in the ability of a patient to get a same-day or next-day appointment with a doctor. It also has the worst emergency room wait times. More than one-quarter of patients wait four or more hours to be treated." "It gets worse. After being referred to a specialist by a primary car doctor, Canadian patients wait four and a half months for treatment, on average. Wait times for MRIs are more than eight weeks; for CT scans, patients wait almost four weeks. " "As a native-born Canadian, I've witnessed this sort of rationing firsthand. My own mother died from colon cancer after doctors delayed her colonoscopy so younger people on the waiting list could go first." " Health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act will rise sharply in 2017. A report out Monday from the Department of Health & Human Services finds that the average cost for the benchmark silver plan will experience a 22% hike." There are now people paying more under obamacare, families with kids who can now not afford it. Obama lied. He said keep your doctor and lower premiums. Yet these left wing liberals who didn't even read the bill passed it even though the american people did not want it by a 2 to 1 margin. There are 35 million people in Canada and 350 million people in america. Big difference. Most recent study shows Canada's middle and upper class come to the US for healthcare. Typical libs always wanting worse healthcare by taking(taxing) lower and middle class people and continue building on the 20 trillion dollar debt. 45 million on welfare under obama and growing. Obama has created more debt than all the previous presidents combined. We have gov't healthcare in the usa, I should know as a VETERAN. Obama and thelibs have destroyed the VA hospitals and VA care. Yea the gov't running healthcare will cost more. Why? Greedy libs wanting more taxmoney to fund projects like how turtles mate. I've been to a VA hospital, I have helped my fellow veterans, I have watched them die waiting on the gov't controlling these VA hospitals make him wait and wait. You want socialism, head to Venezuela or Cuba, see how much you like it. If your post was a joke I apologize , if you are just ignorant , I feel sorry for you. Your response is classic GOP, but, I'm ok with that. With regards to politics, I could care less. I'm not a dem or a GOP. Instead, I prefer common sense and that transcends party politics. I believe in what works not what's political. So, in response and with respect: 1. Regarding health care rationing, calling out canada is funny since here in the US we DO ration healthcare and have been doing it since the beginning. How? If you can't afford healthcare, then many times you don't get health care in the US. Sounds like rationing to me. Rationing, by definition, is giving what's available when it's available which is part of the real world, unless you think there's unlimited supplies of pills, doctors, hospitals, etc in our healthcare system in the US?! No? Well then, it gets rationed and usually goes to the people who can afford to pay FIRST. Exceptions? Sure. But in general, that's the truth. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_rationing_in_the_United_States2. ability to get next day appt's - you mean like taking 4 months to get an endo appt only to find out that endo won't prescribe afrezza? Is that the kind of quick access to specialists that is superior in the US? Because, heads up, that's bullsh-t. Just try to get an appt with a specialist in the US the next day......lol 3. "My own mother died from colon cancer after doctors delayed her colonoscopy so younger people on the waiting list could go first"....I'm sorry to hear that. I truly am. People die every day in the US because they couldn't afford their healthcare cost so while I sympathize with your personal situation, it's not unique to canada. obamacarefacts.com/facts-on-deaths-due-to-lack-of-health-insurance-in-us/4. "Health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act will rise sharply in 2017. A report out Monday from the Department of Health & Human Services finds that the average cost for the benchmark silver plan will experience a 22% hike" - yep, and, what was the rate of increase prior to the ACA on a plan where you could get dumped for just getting sick? 5. Left wing liberals? Um, sure, whatever. And conservatives figured out all the problems with perfect answers (lol.....) during the 80's and 2000-2008 - yep, no problems there....all perfect....all good Healthcare isn't about politics for me so ease up on the name calling. The rest of your post is political whining, as if that's helped anyone like ever. Go vote trump, I'm sure he'll help your healthcare situation because, as we all know, he's really interested in people's lives and well being. Supporting claims that canadians go elsewhere for healthcare, but, read the whole article. If you read the entire article, you'll notice some reality in there about supply and demand. www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-08-03/canadians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-careOr, for the other side of the coin, you can read: www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13222798/canadians-seeking-medical-care-us-trump-debateAs per my post on this, you'll notice that the Fraser institute's position is widely quoted in this article; it's a notorious conservative right wing group that favors free market privatization in general. As well, its not just a matter of supply and demand. Canada's heath care system is founded on three principles: universality, accessibility and affordability in which an attempt is made to balance all by adhering to each. No doubt even more difficult with the rise of fiscal constraint and the policies of neoliberalism since the 1970's. Even so, the Canadian system suffered from stratification in these three areas due to class and gender issues among others even during its heyday in the post 45 period. The system is by no means perfect but as I said Canadians see public universal health care as a right they are unwilling to give up; this being reinforced by derek's post as well. |
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Post by op2778 on Oct 28, 2016 22:19:39 GMT -5
Correct me If I'm wrong nylefty: How FDA will change The label without a change submission by MNKD? Am i wrong? op , nylefty did not say that MNKD did not have to submit for a label change, but rather was clearly responding to prolux 's question, "WHEN is that going to happen Mike Castagna ?" The answer to that is that "WHEN" [will the label be changed] is not up to Mike or anybody else at MannKind. It's up to the FDA. Before casting aspersions (or misrepresenting) anyone's statement, I encourage you to read carefully. Reading comprehension can go a long way to fruitful discussions. Read more: mnkd.proboards.com/thread/6531/relax?page=4#ixzz4OPmckrknI think My comprehension Was fine. We all agree that it's up to FDA to change The label, but, If MNKD doesn't submit The necessary documents, will not happen by magic. I'm surprised that Mike or MNKD or who is in charge, still didn't fill The appropriate documents. That said, nothing surprise me in this MNKD saga anymore op |
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Post by op2778 on Oct 28, 2016 22:38:59 GMT -5
I said this in some post before. i don't know where to find it and honestly I'm lazy to do it now. I'll repeat it again: i like The way american and canadian lives. Everywhere there are things that could and should have to work Better. Also, I'm agree with davinci, about that The ones that pays more, get more (that's capitalism pure and simple). That said (hope is clear), most of you underappreciate what you have. Why? i live in Venezuela and like someone said, socialism (or some sort of called socialism that we invented and works just for Cuba and Venezuela) is one The worst things we have. you have freedom, capitalism, services works pretty Well but do you still complain. It's amazing. in Venezuela If you have or not money, doesn't matter, If you go to The top class clinics of The country, you will not find drugs availables. People need to buy medicines and all they need abroad (If they can afford it) or simple: you die. People with cancer, diabetes and other illnes are dying because they cannot afford The cost to buy medicines. Probably we deserve this because everyone deserves What they get, but please think about What you have and don't forget you have the most beautiful thing on earth, Freedom. that said, If MNKD cannot sell Afrezza, deserves to disappear, that's market rule, easy as that. good night and will try not to talk about politics anymore. Op Your response is classic GOP, but, I'm ok with that. With regards to politics, I could care less. I'm not a dem or a GOP. Instead, I prefer common sense and that transcends party politics. I believe in what works not what's political. So, in response and with respect: 1. Regarding health care rationing, calling out canada is funny since here in the US we DO ration healthcare and have been doing it since the beginning. How? If you can't afford healthcare, then many times you don't get health care in the US. Sounds like rationing to me. Rationing, by definition, is giving what's available when it's available which is part of the real world, unless you think there's unlimited supplies of pills, doctors, hospitals, etc in our healthcare system in the US?! No? Well then, it gets rationed and usually goes to the people who can afford to pay FIRST. Exceptions? Sure. But in general, that's the truth. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_rationing_in_the_United_States2. ability to get next day appt's - you mean like taking 4 months to get an endo appt only to find out that endo won't prescribe afrezza? Is that the kind of quick access to specialists that is superior in the US? Because, heads up, that's bullsh-t. Just try to get an appt with a specialist in the US the next day......lol 3. "My own mother died from colon cancer after doctors delayed her colonoscopy so younger people on the waiting list could go first"....I'm sorry to hear that. I truly am. People die every day in the US because they couldn't afford their healthcare cost so while I sympathize with your personal situation, it's not unique to canada. obamacarefacts.com/facts-on-deaths-due-to-lack-of-health-insurance-in-us/4. "Health insurance premiums under the Affordable Care Act will rise sharply in 2017. A report out Monday from the Department of Health & Human Services finds that the average cost for the benchmark silver plan will experience a 22% hike" - yep, and, what was the rate of increase prior to the ACA on a plan where you could get dumped for just getting sick? 5. Left wing liberals? Um, sure, whatever. And conservatives figured out all the problems with perfect answers (lol.....) during the 80's and 2000-2008 - yep, no problems there....all perfect....all good Healthcare isn't about politics for me so ease up on the name calling. The rest of your post is political whining, as if that's helped anyone like ever. Go vote trump, I'm sure he'll help your healthcare situation because, as we all know, he's really interested in people's lives and well being. Supporting claims that canadians go elsewhere for healthcare, but, read the whole article. If you read the entire article, you'll notice some reality in there about supply and demand. www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-08-03/canadians-increasingly-come-to-us-for-health-careOr, for the other side of the coin, you can read: www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13222798/canadians-seeking-medical-care-us-trump-debateAs per my post on this, you'll notice that the Fraser institute's position is widely quoted in this article; it's a notorious conservative right wing group that favors free market privatization in general. As well, its not just a matter of supply and demand. Canada's heath care system is founded on three principles: universality, accessibility and affordability in which an attempt is made to balance all by adhering to each. No doubt even more difficult with the rise of fiscal constraint and the policies of neoliberalism since the 1970's. Even so, the Canadian system suffered from stratification in these three areas due to class and gender issues among others even during its heyday in the post 45 period. The system is by no means perfect but as I said Canadians see public universal health care as a right they are unwilling to give up; this being reinforced by derek's post as well. |
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Post by broncolife on Nov 9, 2016 19:28:38 GMT -5
I posted this thread a few weeks ago and got a lot of crap for it. Can we relax now? 😁
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Post by dreamboatcruise on Nov 9, 2016 19:47:07 GMT -5
I posted this thread a few weeks ago and got a lot of crap for it. Can we relax now? 😁 Now we have other things to be freaked out about. At least with the good news on the conference call I can shift some of my anxiety from MNKD to the prospect of WWIII. |
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Post by broncolife on Nov 9, 2016 20:29:01 GMT -5
I posted this thread a few weeks ago and got a lot of crap for it. Can we relax now? 😁 Now we have other things to be freaked out about. At least with the good news on the conference call I can shift some of my anxiety from MNKD to the prospect of WWIII. If you believe we are headed toward WWIII then MNKD is the least of your issues. GL! |
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Post by esstan2001 on Nov 9, 2016 20:51:10 GMT -5
I posted this thread a few weeks ago and got a lot of crap for it. Can we relax now? 😁 Now we have other things to be freaked out about. At least with the good news on the conference call I can shift some of my anxiety from MNKD to the prospect of WWIII. well, now that's a relief !  |
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Post by letitride on Nov 9, 2016 20:59:04 GMT -5
Well I cant say I'm relaxed but at least the winds of change are blowing in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. This past 24 hours has all been a big Win, Win for Me!
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Post by 2011mnkdguy on Nov 9, 2016 21:09:14 GMT -5
I would say their are 50 million people on welfare having anxiety today. Also with corporate taxes being cut and companies coming home I'm sure 40 million out of work people will have a lot less anxiety. Mannkind for me equals no anxiety.
I would say say your WWIII anxiety started when we made that deal with Iran, I am sure people breaking the law in this country are having more anxiety today, but as for as Mannkind , no anxiety as it will succeed just as the next 4 years will. So take a xanax and relax.
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Healthcare isn't about politics for me so ease up on the name calling. The rest of your post is political whining, as if that's helped anyone like ever. Go vote trump, I'm sure he'll help your healthcare situation because, as we all know, he's really interested in people's lives and well being.
